Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 19

December 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 19, 2018.

Chris Skinner
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy close.  Redirect was boldly converted into a disambiguation page by . (non-admin closure)  Jalen D. Folf   (talk)  02:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Chris Skinner → List of EastEnders characters (2014) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Skinner&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is a New Zealand Catholic Priest and singer from New Zealand also named Chris Skinner at Chris Skinner (singer). At the moment, entering the words Chris Skinner into search immediately redirects to the Reverend Chris Skinner in East Enders, rather than the living person, making it more difficult to find the living person. Proposed that this redirect be deleted or altered so that entering Chris Skinner instead goes to a disambiguation page listing the living person Chris Skinner and the fictional character Chris Skinner. Pizad42 (talk) 00:06, 20 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy Close when the page was half nominated to RFD but not really I turned it into a DAB. We don't need this discussion to do the DAB. Legacypac (talk) 01:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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Retail politics
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31%23Retail politics

List of atheists and agnostics in science and technology
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  MBisanz  talk 15:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * List of atheists and agnostics in science and technology → List of atheists in science and technology (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_atheists_and_agnostics_in_science_and_technology&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Atheism and Agnosticism are two distinct subjects. In addition, the scope of the redirect is broader than the scope of the target page. Steel1943 (talk) 17:51, 12 December 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Agreement here, but I relisted the two bulk nominations, which suggest there might be more input desired here as well
 * Delete. Readers won't be helped by a longer redirect. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:33, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 21:19, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Catrìona (talk) 23:20, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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List of nontheists
        <span id="List of nontheists (surnames A to B)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames C to D)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames E to G)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames H to K)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames L to M)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames N to Q)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames R to S)"> <span id="List of nontheists (surnames T to Z)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31%23List of nontheists

List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists
<span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (science and technology)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (authors)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (activists and educators)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (film, radio, television and theater)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (miscellaneous)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (music)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (philosophy)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (politics and law)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames A to B)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames C to D)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames E to G)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames H to K)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames L to M)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames N to Q)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames R to S)"> <span id="List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists (surnames T to Z)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31%23List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists

Nagkaisang mga Estado
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was Weak keep  . Weak consensus. <b style="font-family:Papyrus"> Anarchyte  ( talk  &#124;  work ) </b> 12:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Nagkaisang mga Estado → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagkaisang_mga_Estado&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:FORRED. The target does not have affinity with the Filipino language. (I originally was going to put all of foreign language redirects to United States together in one nomination. However, I then found discussions such as Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 4 and Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 18, so instead I’m listing them each individually by language to the best of my ability.) Steel1943  (talk) 23:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. The Philippines was a colony of the United States during a significant portion of the 20th century. Due to this and other factors Filipino/Tagalog is currently the fourth most spoken language in the United States. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep. I'm not entirely sure I see the point of many "legitimate" foregn-language redirects out there, but if we are to follow FORRED here, then there is enough of the affinity that it requires, as shown by Tavix. – Uanfala (talk) 22:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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Stati Uniti d'America
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31%23Stati Uniti d'America

The United States of America.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:03, 28 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The United States of America. → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_United_States_of_America.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * United States of America. → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_of_America.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search terms due to the use of a period/full stop at the end. Steel1943 (talk) 22:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Unopposed, but both are old enough to justify at least one relisting

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete period Legacypac (talk) 00:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep both. Neither is remotely ambiguous and both have some hits. WP:CHEAP. JZCL 18:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, unlikely search terms. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:46, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, unlikely search terms. Catrìona (talk) 23:12, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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Vereinigte Staaten
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete all. Although there isn't a very strong consensus in favour of deletion here, there certainly isn't consensus in favour of keeping and the arguments that do prefer that outcome are weaker than those wanting deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Vereinigte Staaten → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vereinigte_Staaten&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * V.S. America → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=V.S._America&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * V.S. Amerika → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=V.S._Amerika&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * VS America → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=VS_America&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * VS Amerika → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=VS_Amerika&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:FORRED and consensus formed for similar redirects at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 18 regarding redirects in the German a non-English or non-Spanish (Updated. Steel1943  (talk) 17:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)) language. (I originally was going to put all of foreign language redirects to United States together in one nomination. However, I then found discussions such as Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 4 and Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 18, so instead I’m listing them each individually by language to the best of my ability.) Steel1943  (talk) 23:10, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per previous consensus that German-language redirects to the United States are inappropriate. feminist (talk) 00:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per German language in the United States, which explains why the German language is significant in the United States, especially historically. German Americans are a large part of the population of the United States, with over 44 million people or 14.4% of the population. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:56, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Addendum: I am fine with the deletion of the "VS" redirects. They don't seem to be common variants, and a couple of them may be Afrikaans. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:53, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: No clear consensus, especially given the German-Afrikaans discrepancy
 * Comment It seems that all of you made reference to Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 18 being German (or endorsed such reference), but I want to make clear that discussion was Afrikaans. I don't see any other discussion that resulted in German redirects to the United States resulting in deletion. Pinging in case that influences your !vote. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping; I suppose that’s what I get for using a translator to tell me what language these were in. I have updated my rationale. Per my update, I’m still in the belief that these should be deleted since these redirects are not in English or Spanish, regardless what other subjects/articles may exist on Wikipedia. Steel1943  (talk) 17:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I consider myself neutral on this, as although German Americans form a significant portion of US demographics (more than African Americans based on their articles), German is not as common of a language in the US compared to Spanish, Chinese, French, etc. feminist (talk) 03:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete VS America as that brings up some random furniture company http://vsamerica.com AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:07, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I do not necessarily agree with above, but VS Amerika and V.S. Amerika should definitely be deleted since they are in Afrikaans. Leaning keep on the German redirects because there is a substantial German-speaking minority in the United States. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 19:28, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:FORRED and ambiguous. Catrìona (talk) 23:13, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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Columbian union
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Columbian union → United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Columbian_union&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Huh? Steel1943  (talk) 22:52, 11 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * It would still involve a misspelling, but is List of trade unions too outlandish a suggestion? --BDD (talk) 15:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * My first thought was to United States of Colombia or even Gran Colombia. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:54, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:25, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete too many possibilities and the current target makes no sense. Let search do the job. Legacypac (talk) 23:58, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete the topic that shows up most often in a Google search (the name used in Simon Willard's proposed US constitution replacement ) doesn't seem to be discussed anywhere in Wikipedia. Until it is, per Legacypac we should let the search engine handle this instead of trying to handle all the potential typos like Columbian onion, Colombian union, etc. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 04:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Trade unions in Colombia as Colombian Unions or Colombia Unions are used in news article headlines   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:12, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per 59.149. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:32, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
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Henan dialect
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31%23Henan dialect

ΚΩ
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . <b style="font-family:Papyrus"> Anarchyte  ( talk  &#124;  work ) </b> 12:08, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="ΚΩ">ΚΩ → Ohm (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%CE%9A%CE%A9&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible misspelling. The first letter is Greek. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 12:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Implausible search term Danski454 (talk) 12:54, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as it is potentially confusing with Kappa Omega, which several fraternities have these two letters in their names. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:01, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note that KΩ with regular capital K does exist as a redirect. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:40, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete pointless redirect. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:43, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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Profit!
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . <b style="font-family:Papyrus"> Anarchyte  ( talk  &#124;  work ) </b> 12:06, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Profit!">Profit! → Profit (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Profit!&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect has an interesting history. Originally, it pointed to the "Underpants Gnomes" section of List of fictional South Park species (which would be deleted by AfD in April 2009), but was brought to RfD after being retargeted to Profit in July 2008 (before that article was split). The result was to redirect to Profit (disambiguation) (now Profit after the aforementioned split). Now in December 2018, we end the story with deletion since no article uses this exact variation of the word. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 09:00, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete!. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Shhhnotsoloud’s user name. Steel1943  (talk) 21:18, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not useful. Legacypac (talk) 23:59, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I don't see any major media titles that have the ! at the end. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:54, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete; this is not Hamilton! or Hamilton!, Ohio, as far as I can see. Nyttend (talk) 04:06, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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중국
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 27%23중국