Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 5

December 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 5, 2018.

Life expectancy in the 20th century
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Life expectancy in the 20th century → Life expectancy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Life_expectancy_in_the_20th_century&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 20th century/Life expectancy → Life expectancy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=20th_century/Life_expectancy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The precise subject of these redirects does not seem to be identified or explained in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 23:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete These are both acting as redirects to nowhere and I cannot think of a suitable place to shift the redirects to where their former data is meaningfully present. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:03, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above comments.--Tom (LT) (talk) 03:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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Tempation Come My Way
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 13%23Tempation Come My Way

Grand Forks Flickertails
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . While they are different franchises, the previous franchise is covered at the target article. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:44, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Grand Forks Flickertails → Grand Forks Chiefs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grand_Forks_Flickertails&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another redirect to a baseball article for a different franchise. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:42, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment article implies the Flickertails was a former name for the team. If that is not the case, then the article should remove them from the infobox. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:14, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 18:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep based on the current content of the article, the redirect is appropriate. If the article content changes in a way that brings this association into question ping me.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:54, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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Seth Cummings
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 13%23Seth Cummings

Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns+
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Template av Skandinavien
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:01, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Template av Skandinavien → Mall of Scandinavia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_av_Skandinavien&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Unexplained mix of English and Swedish; the Swedish name uses "Mall." UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:09, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Delete Entirely unlikely search term based on linguistic confusion. There is a Swedish word "mall" which corresponds to the English "template", but the building is obviously not called that - it has the English "mall" (pronounced differently from the Swedish word). English "mall" has a Swedish translation ("köpcentrum") but that's not part of the building's name in Swedish, either. --bonadea contributions talk 09:59, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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Greatest Hits - Untitled
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:42, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Greatest Hits - Untitled → Greatest hits album (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greatest_Hits_-_Untitled&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is unclear what this redirect is meant to refer to. Steel1943 (talk) 14:13, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled (Taking Back Sunday album)
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:42, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled (Taking Back Sunday album) → Taking Back Sunday (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_(Taking_Back_Sunday_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There seem to be no references that the target subject was ever officially untitled. (This redirect was created to target its current target, so it was not created as a result of a move. Thus, this redirect's creation was intentional.) Steel1943  (talk) 13:50, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Glorious Leader
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:59, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Glorious Leader → Kim Jong-il (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glorious_Leader&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Peacock name ascribed to ruler, who is also dead by now. I suggest deletion, or maybe turning into a disamb. Gaioa (T C L) 11:33, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete given the absence of content. You can find marginal sources using this name to refer to any head of government whom the author really likes/dislikes, but I don't think that's worth a disambiguation page, even though a few of those usages get trivial mentions around Wikipedia (e.g. at The Daily Stormer or cultural impact of Madonna). It's not specifically mentioned at List of Kim Jong-il's titles, though I suppose it might be a mistranslation of "great leader" or "brilliant leader". Actual topics by this name (e.g. a cancelled video game, a painting ) don't appear to have enough WP:WEIGHT to add to any existing article either. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. The redirect might cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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Canadian Beavers
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 13%23Canadian Beavers

Oldest lake
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 13%23Oldest lake

Oldest living person
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Oldest people. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 08:26, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oldest living person → Kane Tanaka (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oldest_living_person&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect should he deleted because it will require constant maintenance, especially after its target passes away. Steel1943 (talk) 06:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Oldest people, consistent with the much-longer-standing Oldest living man pointing to the section right below that, and most of the other singulars at Special:PrefixIndex/Oldest living being R from list topic to lists like list of longest-living organisms or list of presidents of the United States by age. This had 2,600 hits last year so it seems to be a likely search term. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 10:03, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - This was deleted as a redirect to Chiyo Miyako when that page was deleted. When the target page was restored after DR, I restored the target. The older incarnation of this page was consistently updated when the target would change, rendering the reason for the nomination invalid. It may require maintenance, but since the maintenance is always forthcoming, there is no issue. schetm (talk) 14:33, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Oldest people - I've since learned that oldest people articles are going through a significant purge at AfD right now. Given the topic's instability, this should be retargeted to the link specified. schetm (talk) 08:10, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Oldest people or to match target of Oldest living man. A more useful target, and less maintenance required to ensure it is up-to-date. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 16:03, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget per everybody. It still gets a user to the same information, without constantly having to be repointed every time the top person in the list dies and bumps everybody else up a rank. Bearcat (talk) 17:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget to the list that will always be updated or at least gets the people to the right idea. Legacypac (talk) 07:36, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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"Untitled" now with a title
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:41, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Super Junior's Untitled fifth studio album → Mr. Simple (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Junior%27s_Untitled_fifth_studio_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Maniratnam's Untitled Project → Kadal (2013 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maniratnam%27s_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Alter Bridge album → Blackbird (Alter Bridge album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Alter_Bridge_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Meat Loaf Untitled album → Hang Cool Teddy Bear (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meat_Loaf_Untitled_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pearl Jam's untitled ninth studio album → Backspacer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pearl_Jam%27s_untitled_ninth_studio_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Untitled (Kids See Ghost album)">Untitled (Kids See Ghost album) → Kids See Ghosts (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_(Kids_See_Ghost_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Untitled (Kids See Ghosts album)">Untitled (Kids See Ghosts album) → Kids See Ghosts (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_(Kids_See_Ghosts_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Star Wars: Untitled Han Solo film → Solo: A Star Wars Story (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Star_Wars:_Untitled_Han_Solo_film&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Terrence Malick Untitled Project → Song to Song (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terrence_Malick_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jessica Sanchez's untitled debut studio album → Me, You & the Music (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessica_Sanchez%27s_untitled_debut_studio_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Yash Chopra's Untitled project → Jab Tak Hai Jaan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yash_Chopra%27s_Untitled_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled K. V. Anand-Vijay Sethupathy project → Kavan (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_K._V._Anand-Vijay_Sethupathy_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled 2017 Star Trek TV series → Star Trek: Discovery (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_2017_Star_Trek_TV_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mahesh Babu and Koratala siva's untitled project → Srimanthudu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mahesh_Babu_and_Koratala_siva%27s_untitled_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gopichand Malineni Untitled Project → Winner (2017 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gopichand_Malineni_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * AR Murugadoss Untitled Project → Spyder (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AR_Murugadoss_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * NTR-Harish Shanka Untitled Project → Ramayya Vasthavayya (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NTR-Harish_Shanka_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * NTR-Harish Shankar Untitled Project → Ramayya Vasthavayya (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NTR-Harish_Shankar_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * NTR-Harish Shankar's Untitled Project → Ramayya Vasthavayya (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NTR-Harish_Shankar%27s_Untitled_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Has a title now. Steel1943 (talk) 05:54, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete All in each case the redirect could refer to the group's next project. Legacypac (talk) 07:43, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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NTR-Harish Shankar Movie
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:40, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * NTR-Harish Shankar Movie → Ramayya Vasthavayya (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NTR-Harish_Shankar_Movie&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear how this is a useful or likely search term for the target. Steel1943 (talk) 05:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Rétes
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Consensus that this is an appropriate WP:FORRED. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:33, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Rétes">Rétes → Strudel (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R%C3%A9tes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target page. Steel1943 (talk) 05:36, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * hu:Rétes is the Hungarian word for strudel, and Hungary is one of the few places where it is traditionally made. If that's insufficient reason for a redirect, and it's not worthy of inclusion in the article, so be it. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:58, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep for cultural affinity to Hungary. Deryck C. 10:48, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
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Kreme
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Cream. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:58, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Kreme → Cream (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kreme&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:FORRED. The target does not have affinity to the German language. But, is this a loan word? Steel1943 (talk) 05:33, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Refine to Cream where the use of the spelling 'kreme' is discussed, and now has a source. In English this spelling seems to be a lot more famous as a WP:PTM for Krispy Kreme, so I think WP:FORRED doesn't exactly apply. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 09:57, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Refine per above. feminist (talk) 08:25, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
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