Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 14

February 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 14, 2018.

List of destinations served by ferries fron the port of Piraeus
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:39, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * List of destinations served by ferries fron the port of Piraeus → List of destinations served by ferries from the port of Piraeus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_destinations_served_by_ferries_fron_the_port_of_Piraeus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Just a redirect because of a minor typo in the original word "from" in the title. Pointless to retain. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:55, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems pointless and egregiously unlikely. Joefromrandb (talk) 01:57, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete was a result of the page move and should have been cleaned from there. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:25, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Missed opportunity, perhaps, but five months is not recent enough for WP:CSD. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 23:04, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
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PlayStation(R)4
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * PlayStation(R)4 → PlayStation 4 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlayStation(R)4&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should be deleted per MOS:TMRULES. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:05, 7 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 21:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep MOSTMRULES would certainly apply if this were the article's title, but as a redirect, it only need be a plausible search-term. Joefromrandb (talk) 01:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * And how is it a plausible term? No one will type Playstation(R)4 instead of just Playstation 4 or even Playstation4.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:51, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't know that, plus someone may very well paste it in as a search term. Joefromrandb (talk) 01:59, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and with recent deletion of Playstation(R)3 at Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_February_7 AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:07, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per . Steel1943  (talk) 12:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Gabriel (footballer)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gabriel (disambiguation). As noted in this discussion, anyone known mononymously as Gabriel should be on that page. --BDD (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Gabriel (footballer) → Gabriel Paulista (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabriel_(footballer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I suggest redirecting this to the Disambiguation page for Gabriel as there are currently many Gabriel's that play football. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 18:26, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note for closer: I'm hoping that the closer here will also close the move request at Talk:Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira so that we don't have any dispute over which process supersedes the other. (In the absence of this discussion, I would already have moved that page and this would no longer be a redirect to be discussed.) Dekimasu よ! 04:19, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:XY, as this can both refer to Gabriel (given name) or Gabriel (surname). feminist (talk) 03:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * What does that have to do with a redirect to Gabriel (disambiguation)? Joefromrandb (talk) 04:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Gabriel (disambiguation) does not contain any mention of footballers, or football in general. feminist (talk) 04:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Aah. Well then I suppose "Gabriel (given name)" would be the better choice after all. Joefromrandb (talk) 06:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gabriel (disambiguation), per sensible nomination. Joefromrandb (talk) 04:13, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This redirect is also under discussion as the possible location of a specific article: Talk:Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira. Dekimasu よ! 06:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 06:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Gabriel (given name), as that is the name of the majority of footballers with this nickname. GiantSnowman 12:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gabriel (given name), which has a number of footballers. Not clear if it is a common mononym as with Ronaldo where it could then move to the main Gabriel (disambiguation) page. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gabriel (given name) per GiantSnowman. Thanks. feminist (talk) 09:19, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Move Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira to Gabriel (footballer) per Talk:Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira. Although there are a number of footballers whose given name is "Gabriel", only one such footballer, Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira, is listed by the mononym Gabriel (footballer)|Gabriel by the football references FIFA, ESPN FC and SOCCERWAY. Those same football references list Gabriel Paulista as… Gabriel Paulista (FIFA, ESPN FC, SOCCERWAY). &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 00:56, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gabriel (disambiguation) as incomplete disambiguation. Gabriel Barbosa, Gabriel Paulista and Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira should also be listed there, irrespective of a separate name article existing. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 05:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. If Gabriel (footballer) is not going to be a redirect to a specific mononymous footballer, it should redirect to Gabriel (given name) which, as of this writing, lists 1) Gabriel Agbonlahor (born 1986), English footballer; 2) Gabriel Barbosa (born 1996), Brazilian footballer; 3) Gabriel Batistuta (born 1969), Argentine footballer; 4) Gabriel Favale (born 1967), Argentine football referee; 5) Gabriel Enrique Gómez (born 1984), Panamanian footballer; 6) Gabriel Heinze (born 1978), Argentine footballer; 7) Gabriel Jesus (born 1997), Brazilian footballer; 8) Gabriel Milito (born 1980), Argentine footballer; 9) Gabriel Mendoza (born 1968), Chilean footballer; 10) Gabriel Obertan (born 1989), French footballer; 11) Gabriel Paulista (born 1990), Brazilian footballer; 12) Gabriel Popescu (born 1973), French footballer; 13) Gabriel Eugénio Souza (born 1997), Brazilian footballer and 14) Gabriel Vasconcelos Ferreira (born 1992), Brazilian footballer. &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 08:56, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gabriel (disambiguation), where people known mononymously as "Gabriel" should appear, per Xezbeth. I have added those people to Gabriel (disambiguation), which should resolve the above objection that there were no footballers listed there. Note that Gabriel (disambiguation) has links to both Gabriel (given name) and Gabriel (surname), both of which list footballers in case someone is looking for someone else. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:04, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gabriel (disambiguation). The people for whom this really applies, the three mononymous footballers, all do *not* have this as a given name, so redirecting to the given name would be incorrect. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
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Machine gun nest
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 21%23Machine gun nest

Studium provinciale
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Gerald Yao
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per G8. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:48, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Gerald Yao → Timothy Hwang (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Yao&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

not mentioned on the page linked to.  DGG ( talk ) 09:02, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hook Ya Crook (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:G8. The redirect technically depends on the article Hook Ya Crook, which was deleted at Articles for deletion/Hook Ya Crook. If it wasn't for a bizarre redirect-fixer bot move during the AfD, it would have been deleted then. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:59, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hook Ya Crook (film) → David Dhawan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hook_Ya_Crook_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect from a film to a director, and while it appears that Dhawan was the director, this film doesn't seem to be listed in his article. FWIW, Hook Ya Crook is a red link. Suggest red link this one to encourage an article. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:59, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hoolahoop
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Killiondude (talk) 20:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hoolahoop → Hula hoop (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoolahoop&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Non-notable spelling of the name. It reads like someone's attempt to brand the product, but even then there are no news or general articles for this. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Pageviews since its creation suggest it's not a common typo.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:14, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. This strikes me as a plausible phonetic spelling with, as far as I know, no risk of causing confusion or sending the reader to an unexpected target. Notability is a test we use to decide whether a topic warrants an article; it has nothing to do with redirects. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 16:49, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That assumes the audio searches will favor hoola over hula, and there's no evidence this is common enough to warrant this. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I wasn't thinking of anything as high-tech as that – I was just imagining a reader who is unsure of how the term is spelled and so spells it in a way that seems to make sense. Obviously what is and isn't plausible in that regard is a subjective matter and reasonable opinions might differ quite a lot. The key point though is that there's no obvious harm done by having this – no risk of creating confusion or misinforming the reader – so no obvious reason to delete it. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 21:13, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Entirely plausible spelling. Joefromrandb (talk) 00:37, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plausible phonetic misspelling. Steel1943  (talk) 12:45, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Transit (Christian Petzold (director))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Transit (Christian Petzold (director)) → Transit (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transit_(Christian_Petzold_(director))&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

overspecified with the extra parentheses for director AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:12, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Now, I try to figure out if I can redirect WP:INCEPTION or WP:DABINADAB to an applicable guideline. Steel1943  (talk) 02:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Wing Commander: Privateer redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 20:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Xytani → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xytani&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Regallis → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Regallis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * N9CE → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=N9CE&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pender's Star → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pender%27s_Star&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * J900 → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J900&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tingerhoff → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tingerhoff&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * KM-252 → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KM-252&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Rikel → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rikel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nitir → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nitir&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * CMF-A → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CMF-A&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tr'Pakh → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tr%27Pakh&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Sumn-Kp'ta → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sumn-Kp%27ta&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mah'Rahn → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mah%27Rahn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lisacc → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lisacc&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 44-P-IM → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=44-P-IM&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * New Constantinople → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Constantinople&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Saxtogue → Wing Commander: Privateer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saxtogue&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:GAMECRUFT details not described in the video game article. Items, locations, weapons, and races. These were all created by a single editor. This is WP:NOTWIKIA, should not house every object or term from the game. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:09, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all As pure gamecruft.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:12, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * IMHO keep Are you sure WP:GAMECRUFT applies also to redirects? Locations are not mentioned in the policy and redirects are not articles. We are not talking about a pointless description of these locations. Citing the names of the major star systems could be interesting and meaningful considering it is a game focused mainly on exploration. Moreover these redirects are harmless WP:Paper, useful as placemark for future disambiguations and... well if a reader, even one time per year, digits "New Constantinople" then I believe he should be kindly redirected to that page. I could add a star system list in the article to give more context to these redirects. -- Basilicofresco  (msg) 13:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, gamecruft applies to redirects. They would have to be strongly notable to warrant a R without mention tag. And please don't add lists of star systems or gameplay items. That would definitely conflict with WP:GAMECRUFT #7 (lists of levels, list of weapons, list of items). If any of those terms are critical to the understanding of the game, please work that into the plot and gameplay sections. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:36, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete all per nom. Steel1943  (talk) 13:42, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Warren Graham
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Ronaldo's
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Friedrich Knollenberg
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . The page is no longer a redirect. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:50, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Friedrich Knollenberg → Knollenberg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Friedrich_Knollenberg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirects to a Surname disambiguation page, which is not very helpful, and stifles article creation. Unless someone wants to create an article in English, this name should be deleted, and in the meantime be linked as Friedrich Knollenberg as needed. --Animalparty! (talk) 01:42, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * no problem, I'll create the article now. Please don't delete, leave with me. DrVogel (talk) 01:51, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * have a look now! much better :) We have an article now. DrVogel (talk) 02:35, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * speedy close. As RFD nominator, I retract my previous comment: as a stub has been created, the title is no longer redirect, and this discussion can close. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Joap
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 22%23Joap