Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 7

February 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 7, 2018.

PlayStation 4 launch, retail configurations and pricing
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 02:07, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * PlayStation 4 launch, retail configurations and pricing → PlayStation 4 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlayStation_4_launch,_retail_configurations_and_pricing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausibly long redirect name. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:09, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. We should just get rid of this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:13, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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PlayStation(R)4
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 14%23PlayStation(R)4

Business solution
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 21:38, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Business solution → Solution selling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Business_solution&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is much broader topic than just Solution seling Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:10, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * One could also argue that it is a oft-nailed-to-the-wall-pudding. Give me a hint, please, where to find a definition that goes beyond marketing blurb. -- Kku (talk) 14:12, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Are there any articles that might work better? Like Business analysis? It seems to use the word solutions a lot. General searches point to a bunch of companies. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:06, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is so vague that it could apply to a number of different pages that we already have, from 'Business analysis' to 'Business intelligence' to 'Operations research' and so on. I'd rather that we just get rid of this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:56, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:56, 31 January 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Note: There are many articles/companies with "business solution" in their name

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 21:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete a wildly vague term. Let search provide the answer. Legacypac (talk) 01:51, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - pointlessly vague marketing-speak; ranked poorly in Forbes' Most Annoying Business Jargon bracket. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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Proud Sponsor
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 21:39, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Proud Sponsor → Underwriting (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proud_Sponsor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Proud Sponsors → Underwriting (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proud_Sponsors&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Shouldn't this recently created redirect go to Sponsor (commercial)? The Underwriting article doesn't discuss "proud sponsor" as a term. Also bizarre that sponsor is capitalized. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:30, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both due to potential for POV/PROMO issues. However I agree that sponsor in this sense is commercial, not as in the usage in the insurance industry. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:56, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both - Neither of these seem worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 13:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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Aziz Pahrudinov
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Aziz Pahrudinov → The Ultimate Fighter: Undefeated (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aziz_Pahrudinov&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Proposing deletion. It seems the redirect was presumptuously created based on faulty information. In the announcement of the cast of The Ultimate Fighter: Undefeated, subject of the redirect was not listed as a contestant. If Aziz Pahrudinov is part of the program at all, it is likely only in the preliminary "fight-in" round, which I do not believe would garner significant enough coverage in the target article to merit a redirect. Dancter (talk) 17:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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New Mexico black bear
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * New Mexico black bear → American black bear (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Mexico_black_bear&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Very implausible typo, originally redirected to North American jaguar, which made no sense at all. Kleuske (talk) 17:46, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * How is this a typo? -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete- it's not a 'typo', but there is no such thing as a New Mexico black bear, and there are no sources referring to any such phrase. Just because there are in fact black bears in New Mexico does not mean this redirect should exist. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  17:52, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - it IS in fact a subspecies of the black bear, so there can be no discussion here, not really. -- ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ  18:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm curious what you are basing your claim on. The target lists Ursus americanus amblyceps as a subspecies of the American black bear, with "New Mexico black bear" being the common name. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * a google search of "New Mexico Black Bear". It turns out I erred, though. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  18:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was just wondering if you had access to a taxonomic database or something of the sort that would be able to confirm such a thing. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:07, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Initially, these were dead links on the page American black bear, and I believe that self-links like those should be avoided, so I thought of redirecting them to another page that had information about American black bears on the border-region between Mexico and the United States of America, but anyways, I removed the current self-links in American black bear, and I agree that these can be redirects to that page. Leo1pard (talk) 18:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep: It seems I made a mistake. The name is in fact a legit sub-species and thus the redirect is also legitimate. Apologies to Leo1pard. Kleuske (talk) 18:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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Quaternary constraint
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 16%23Quaternary constraint

Tertiary constraint
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 16%23Tertiary constraint

Shithole
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 18%23Shithole

Arisen (Björk song)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Arisen (Björk song) → Utopia (Björk album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arisen_(Bj%C3%B6rk_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No such song at target, discography or main page for Bjork. There is a song called 'Arisen My Senses' but that is already covered as a redirect and will more than suffice as an active redirect. Further alternatives are not helping. Richhoncho (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I created the redirect when "Arisen" was listed as a track name, but you have my permission to delete if not helpful. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - a sensible short name that is not hurting in any way either. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:09, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Close enough to be useful. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 16:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Latino/a
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Latinx. Per below, if someone is searching for a term with the slash in it, they're likely cognizant of and interested in the discussion around such terms. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 02:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Latino/a">Latino/a → Hispanic and Latino Americans (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Latino/a&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Latinos/as">Latinos/as → Hispanic and Latino Americans (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Latinos/as&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should these be kept as is or retargeted to Latinx? I think it depends on whether you read that slash as "and" (keep as it) or "or" (retarget). Consider me neutral for now; I just thought it should be brought up. --BDD (talk) 14:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget Latino/a to Latinx and add hatnote if they are looking for Latino in general. Include Latina/o The o/a suffix used in publications    .  Delete plural as not used in news articles as such.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I also support a retarget change so that they both go to Latinx. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:15, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Latinx, seems to be the best plausible target per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 13:32, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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Portal:WoW
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . It was a redirect to Portal:World of Warcraft, which was deleted at MfD.  By rights this should've been WP:CSD deleted right then, but it the target was recreated as redirect to mainspace.  While that was eventually G4 deleted, there as enough time for the bot to fix the double redirect. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:26, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Portal:WoW → World of Warcraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:WoW&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear what this means, not mentioned in article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:05, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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WoWing
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 * The result of the discussion was deleting  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * WoWing → World of Warcraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WoWing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Article doesn't mention what this actually means. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:04, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

I believe it's meant as a verb, i.e. "World of Warcraft-ing". ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:28, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep used briefly on CNET news: and Christian Science Monitor  at different time periods.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:45, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Seems like it was used in the way you would append "-ing" to any video game (Haloing, Destinying, Marioing), and not in a way that suggests it is a widely used term.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:57, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem widely used, but was mentioned in those two articles from two different publishers which were 3 years apart. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete- any noun can be made into a verb by adding 'ing' to the end. It does not follow that WP should act as a depository for those words. What good would having 'WoWing' as a redirect serve? Certainly none. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  17:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not helpful fake word. Legacypac (talk) 02:52, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I really don't like the precedent that any name of something can have an "-ing" added on to the end and still be treated as if it's a real word. Even if that does sound pedantic of me, I suppose, there's still the fundamental question of whether or not this redirect is helpful. I don't think that it is. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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Pre-BC
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Pre-BC → World of Warcraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pre-BC&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pre-tBC → World of Warcraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pre-tBC&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Abbreviation is not mentioned in the article. I am guessing it refers to "Pre Burning Crusade", but this is given no explanation so it is just a misleading redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:02, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I could easily see the first as a search term for what preceded BC (or BCE). At some point, you'd just say so many "million years ago" instead of, like, "65 million BC", but if you're reckoning time in terms of BC, I think there is no before. --BDD (talk) 16:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete could also refer to any BC, be it the B.C. time period, British Columbia, Breeders Cup, Blizzcon, Boston College.        Pre-TBC seems to be closer to World of Warcraft, but if it that stays, it needs a description in the article.   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:49, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:19, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. Steel1943  (talk) 12:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Wowscape
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Wowscape → World of Warcraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wowscape&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer mentioned in target article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment seems to be a Server emulator like Scapegaming  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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Ylo
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Much obliged to  ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Ylo → Ilo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ylo&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect formerly targeted the subject at Ilo, Peru, but it's not mentioned there either. Steel1943 (talk) 13:46, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate for Naruo language (ISO 639:ylo), Yellow Pages Limited (former ticker symbol), and Ilo, Peru (I restored a sourced passage that older sources call it Ylo, which was deleted without explanation in 2009). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 14:04, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Dabify per anon -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:04, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Dabify. Sufficiently different from Ilo that a merge would be unhelpful. Cross-refer Ilo to Ylo (disambiguation). Narky Blert (talk) 12:14, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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Emotions (Chris Brown song)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Per others similarly created ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 16:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Emotions (Chris Brown song)">Emotions (Chris Brown song) → Heartbreak on a Full Moon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emotions_(Chris_Brown_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No reference to a song of this name on the album, the discography or the artist page of Chris Brown. Richhoncho (talk) 13:26, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I created the redirect when more tracks were listed in the article, but you have my permission to delete if not helpful. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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LibGCM
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to PlayStation 3 system software. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 12:04, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * LibGCM → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LibGCM&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:31, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget to PlayStation 3 system software? Not perfect (I think this is also a PS4 lib), but it is described there. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget as above. It is also mentioned in List of rendering APIs and seems to be PS3 specific as according to that article, there's LibGNM for PS4 and LibGXM for PS Vita. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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Ps3d
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 23:20, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Ps3d → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ps3d&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in article. Overly vague and could refer to other things (like Photoshop's 3D editing tools for example) ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see any primary topic articles that could claim this moniker. Some non-notable business claims they have the trademark for PS3D.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:02, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - As stated above, this term seems to be associated with a variety of entities. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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PLAYSTATION(r)3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Unlikely search term given the (r).  As a note, MOS:TMRULES refers to article titles and text, but is mum on redirects to articles. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="PLAYSTATION(r)3">PLAYSTATION(r)3 → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PLAYSTATION(r)3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The combination of all caps and the (r) make it seem like an implausible search term. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:28, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete MOS:TMRULES AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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PLAYSTATION®3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Unlikely search term given the actual symbol.  As a note, MOS:TMRULES refers to article titles and text, but is mum on redirects to articles. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="PLAYSTATION®3">PLAYSTATION®3 → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PLAYSTATION%C2%AE3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I doubt anyone will literally type the registered trademark symbol when searching for the article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:27, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete MOS:TMRULES AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per AngusWOOF -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This is useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:16, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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Black ps3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:56, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Black ps3 → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_ps3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect. The other colors aren't mentioned. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not a product term or trademark color phrase. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:06, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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A ps3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 23:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * A ps3 → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A_ps3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not helpful article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:07, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - an useless. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:17, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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Ps3 lite
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:20, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Ps3 lite → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ps3_lite&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No such console exists or is mentioned in target article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as a possible R from incorrect name for the "PlayStation 3 Slim". Steel1943  (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Disregard this. I've been looking through third-party engines for a bit, and cannot find this correlation even in old news results. In fact, when looking up "Ps3 lite", I primarily receive results for some sort of 2018 soccer/football game released for the PS3 which includes the word "LITE" in its title. So, delete as the redirect potentially obscures search results with its existence. Steel1943  (talk) 17:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Playstation 3 Bag
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Playstation 3 Bag → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Playstation_3_Bag&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No bag mentioned in target article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:22, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete not listed in PlayStation 3 accessories either. No articles discussing packaging or a carrying case for the product. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as not mentioned, and thus not identified. Anyone attempting to look up information for this subject will find nothing to answer their question about what this is. Steel1943  (talk) 12:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Paystation 3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . While noting the possibility that this could be a typo, there is certainly a dearth of use to justify keeping it. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:51, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Paystation 3 → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paystation_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Violates WP:NPOV by being a derogatory nickname that isn't commonly used. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not used in news articles. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:16, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as not mentioned as an alternative name that is a borderline WP:NPOV violation. Steel1943  (talk) 12:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Playstation 9
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to PlayStation. It's mate was also more recently kept right here at RfD ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 02:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Playstation 9 → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Playstation_9&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:CRYSTALBALL. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:18, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment I have no strong opinion about the matter, but I should note that currently redirects to PlayStation, and was previously discussed at Articles for deletion/PlayStation 9. Dancter (talk) 18:04, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget per 's findings. It was a brief commercial about rolling out such a product in 2078 in the spirit of Jaws 19 AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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Yellow Light of Death (PS3)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 18%23Yellow Light of Death (PS3)

R2 (ps3 button)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . All participants agree that the redirect as-is should not be kept. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:19, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="R2 (ps3 button)">R2 (ps3 button) → PlayStation 3 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R2_(ps3_button)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect makes no sense, as there are no other redirects for the other buttons, and disambiguation is capitalized wrong. Highly implausible. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak retarget to DualShock and move redirect to either R2 (controller button) or R2 (button). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. If a new redirect at a different title needs to be created, it can be created sans the edit history of this redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 16:51, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Bias towards the north and against south
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to North-South divide. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Bias towards the north and against south → North–South divide in Taiwan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bias_towards_the_north_and_against_south&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bias towards north and against south → North–South divide in Taiwan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bias_towards_north_and_against_south&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  added -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I recommend deletion of this redirect per the second reason for deletion at WP:RFD: The redirect might cause confusion. "Bias towards the north and against south" is relevant to many geographic areas, not only to the target. The redirect was created within the last month, so deletion should not cause any problems. Biogeographist (talk) 15:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I've added one other redirect that varies only grammatically. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both unlikely search term and unclear link between target and redirects. Ajf773 (talk) 17:35, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both Retarget to North-South divide I suppose there's an argument for a weak retarget to North-south bias in South-up map orientation too. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:53, 30 January 2018 (UTC) updated 16:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to North–South divide. While AngusWOOF's South-up map orientation is immediately what I thought of (thanks, West Wing), I think North-South divide is more broadly applicable and more accurately represents the sentiment of these redirects than "just" a map orientation. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:06, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Good find! It also includes a link to the Taiwan region in question. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to North–South divide. feminist (talk) 11:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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Genetically Modified Organism Project
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 23:18, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Genetically Modified Organism Project → Deus Ex (video game) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_Modified_Organism_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Given that there are many "genetically modified organism projects" in real life, and in science fiction, it seems like a redirect that is too vague. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fannish hijack of a very generic term. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Weak retarget to The Non-GMO Project as as this comes up in searches for news articles. General searches show "GMO project" used with this organization or with school projects discussing Genetically Modified Organisms  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:40, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete - Given the ambiguity here, I'd rather that we just let people search. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:00, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete due to vagueness -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:06, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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National Secessionist Forces
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Deus Ex (video game). No comment on a hatnote ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 02:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * National Secessionist Forces → Deus Ex (video game) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Secessionist_Forces&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Given that there are many "national secessionist forces" in real life, I think this redirect could be confusing/misleading. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:47, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Comment This is a major group in the game like UNATCO but general news articles point to secessionist forces in general.. Would a redirects here / hatnote to Secession be more appropriate? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to section #Setting_and_characters, where this is specifically discussed (twice by full name, and then a further two times by an initialism). Neutral on a  hatnote because I find it difficult to believe someone would type this exact phrase looking for secession in general.  -- N  Y  Kevin   00:09, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * I don't believe that we should delete this. The specific name of the group, with every word capitalized, is clearly distinct from the broader concept of secessionist movements. Refining things to the #Setting_and_characters section also makes sense to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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