Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 1

January 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 1, 2018.

Brimstone (sulfur)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Brimstone (sulfur) → Sulfur (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brimstone_(sulfur)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible search term, given that Brimstone already exists as a disambiguation page that lists sulfur as the primary topic. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 17:06, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep as  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:51, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible search term. People will either look for just brimstone or just sulphur. PriceDL (talk) 00:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't really see this as being helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Emerico de Hungría (santo)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Tone 09:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Basílica de Székesfehérvár → Székesfehérvár Basilica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bas%C3%ADlica_de_Sz%C3%A9kesfeh%C3%A9rv%C3%A1r&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Emerico de Hungría (santo) → Saint Emeric of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emerico_de_Hungr%C3%ADa_(santo)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Colomán de Hungría → Coloman, King of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colom%C3%A1n_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Bela II de Hungría → Béla II of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bela_II_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Geza II de Hungría → Géza II of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geza_II_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Álmos el ciego → Prince Álmos (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%81lmos_el_ciego&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Coloman el Bibliófilo → Coloman, King of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coloman_el_Bibli%C3%B3filo&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Esteban IV de Hungría → Stephen IV of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Esteban_IV_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Inés de Châtillon → Agnes of Antioch (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In%C3%A9s_de_Ch%C3%A2tillon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Bela III de Hungría → Béla III of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bela_III_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ladislao III de Hungría → Ladislaus III of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ladislao_III_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Alberto de Hungría → Albert the Magnanimous (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alberto_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Matías Corvino">Matías Corvino → Matthias Corvinus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mat%C3%ADas_Corvino&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Carlos I Roberto de Hungría">Carlos I Roberto de Hungría → Charles I of Hungary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carlos_I_Roberto_de_Hungr%C3%ADa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

FORRED; absolutely no reason for Spanish language redirects. Spanish has nothing to do with medieval Eastern Europe. Surtsicna (talk) 19:54, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: Spanish has nothing to do with medieval Eastern Europe...hmm...Bosley John Bosley (talk) 20:11, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you, as the creator of these redirects, please explain what you mean by "hmm"? Surtsicna (talk) 20:26, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hum (sound), a wordless vocalization Bosley John Bosley (talk) 21:08, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * So, you have no argument at all in favor of keeping these redirects. Noted. Surtsicna (talk)
 * I no not contest or other action if tackled in an objective manner: Policy on Spanish Language? I have raised an issue on the FORRED (WP:explanatory supplement) page. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 13:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep: Person searching for a saint would most probably search the saint in one of the the popular titles/names, so a redirect would help him land on the right page. Though I dont know if this is a reason enough to create a redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScitDei (talk • contribs)
 * What? In what universe is "Emerico de Hungría (santo)" a popular English name for the Hungarian saint? It's not even popular in Spanish! Surtsicna (talk) 15:12, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * "Emerico de Hungría (santo)". If you then click the side bar it will take you to Saint Emeric of Hungary...If you then click Español it will take you back to the Spanish version. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 16:17, 27 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. There's no relation between the subject and the Spanish language, so there's no reason for someone to search in this manner. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:21, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Delete Per tavix. No need for every language redirects. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:57, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 19:21, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --BDD (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per BDD per nom. &#8213; <em style="color:black">Matthew J. Long -Talk-<sup style="font-size:75%">☖  18:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * But really though, BDD and I have both reverted edits of the creator on Wikipedia:Redirects from foreign languages. I'm all for trying to change policy you don't agree with, but I don't agree with how this editor has gone about doing that. If they seek a change, they should follow WP:PGCHANGE and WP:TALKFIRST&#8213; <em style="color:black">Matthew J. Long  -Talk-<sup style="font-size:75%">☖  18:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Jeez...It is not strictly necessary to discuss changes or to obtain written documentation of a consensus in advance...can you idiots not see the grammatical error in your reverts? Bosley John Bosley (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not strictly necessary because of WP:BOLD. However, when you have been reverted, like you have been several times now, consensus for your change is required. Additionally, if you want to fix a grammar error, it's best to simply fix the grammar rather than removing the entire sentence. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:28, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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Commercially released independent game
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 06:16, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Commercially released independent game → List of Dreamcast homebrew games (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commercially_released_independent_game&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Such a subject is not exclusive to Dreamcast games. Steel1943 (talk) 17:35, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Delete – presumably refers to indie games, though it's a bit of a long-winded search term for them. PriceDL (talk) 00:08, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as a bit long and ambigous synonym for indie games -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:03, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This seems useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:29, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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GOAT Store
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 9%23GOAT Store

Midwest Gaming Classic 2013
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Midwest Gaming Classic 2013 → Midwest Gaming Classic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Midwest_Gaming_Classic_2013&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Midwest Gaming Classic 2014 → Midwest Gaming Classic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Midwest_Gaming_Classic_2014&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No information about these years is present at the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 17:26, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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Service Games: Rise & Fall of SEGA
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Service Games: Rise & Fall of SEGA">Service Games: Rise & Fall of SEGA → Sega (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Service_Games:_Rise_%26_Fall_of_SEGA&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Service Games: Rise & Fall of SEGA - Enhanced Edition">Service Games: Rise & Fall of SEGA - Enhanced Edition → Sega (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Service_Games:_Rise_%26_Fall_of_SEGA_-_Enhanced_Edition&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Service Games: Rise and Fall of Sega → Sega (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Service_Games:_Rise_and_Fall_of_Sega&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This phrase isn't mentioned in the target article. Otherwise, it looks like the name of a news article, book, or opinion piece. Steel1943 (talk) 16:45, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete it probably is supposed to be a book title, missing a "the" (, a self-published essay collection). WP:UNDUE to mention that book at the target; don't see anywhere else it would fit either (none of the authors seem to have Wikipedia articles), and it doesn't look individually notable either. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Added two other variations on the same title to the nomination. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:33, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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Nick Lucero
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Nick Lucero → Peter Murphy (musician) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_Lucero&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. It's jarringly confusing (and WP:UNDUE) to have Nick Lucero redirect to someone else's bio, and Murphy's recent-ish touring band (which has never had a long-term stable lineup) is only one of several notable bands with which Lucero is associated (Queens of the Stone Age, Mob Research, and probably others). He's almost certainly independently notable, but no one's likely to create the article any time soon if it's not a red link. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ &gt;ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ&lt;  15:07, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect, for me anyway, doesn't seem to make any sense. VibeScepter (talk) 11:55, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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University Station (MTR proposed)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:22, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="University Station (MTR proposed)">University Station (MTR proposed) → HKU station (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_Station_(MTR_proposed)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is no longer correct, since HKU station opened in 2014. Perhaps delete? Jc86035 (talk) 07:43, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inaccurate redirect unused in mainspace and extremely unlikely to be used by readers. James (talk/contribs) 13:37, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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The Lost Aurolithic Civilization
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The target no longer exists, anyhow. Killiondude (talk) 07:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The Lost Aurolithic Civilization → Aurolithic Civilization (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Lost_Aurolithic_Civilization&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search. Article itself is extremely fringe based upon selfpublished work. Doug Weller talk 07:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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迪士尼
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="迪士尼">迪士尼 → Disneyland Resort station (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E8%BF%AA%E5%A3%AB%E5%B0%BC&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is just a transliteration of "Disney" into Chinese, so the MTR station is not necessarily an appropriate target (and there are also a Disney park and a Disney Resort Station in Shanghai). Would it be appropriate to redirect this to The Walt Disney Company, or should this be deleted? Jc86035 (talk) 07:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Delete as an inappropriate target PriceDL (talk) 14:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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甲山
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Restore Chinese title disambiguation as was done here (non-admin closure)  Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  15:12, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="甲山">甲山 → Koyama (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E7%94%B2%E5%B1%B1&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is nothing at the target called 甲山; meanwhile there are three other topics on Wikipedia called 甲山, none of which are transcribed as Koyama. I attempted to make this into a Chinese title disambiguation, which is what is usually done when multiple topics share the same name but with different transcriptions. However this was reverted, so I am bringing it here for discussion. I could see a case for deletion too, but not for keeping it as is. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 06:36, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, WP:TRANSLITERATE does not apply to Chinese title disambiguation pages. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Dabify per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:04, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support I am fine with keeping the separate disambiguation page for 甲山 (though it should include a link to the Koyama disambiguation page since there are Japanese place names using 甲山 read as Kōyama: see ja:甲山_(曖昧さ回避)). I would have appreciated this IP user explaining their argument in the original edit comment (which was not coherent) and/or making this argument on the talk page (or my talk page) before bringing it here. Michitaro (talk) 04:07, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support making a dab. WP:TRANSLITERATE shouldn't apply as a dab page is a navigational aid, not an article. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 14:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
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Angelo Pergolito
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Angelo Pergolito → Jimmy Cavallo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Angelo_Pergolito&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The redirect makes no sense as the page to which this redirect redirects does not actually mention Angelo Pergolito. Further, it's unlikely an article on Angelo Pergolito will ever come into being; one has already been AfD'ed and multiple WP:BEFORE searches of Angelo Pergolito have failed to find anything other than proof he once existed. Chetsford (talk) 02:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. There do not seem to be WP:RS which mention Mr. Pergolito (best thing I could find is, everything else is personal webpages and mirrors of the deleted Wikipedia articles). So there's no way to add content about him anywhere even as a mention on the Jimmy Cavallo article, and hence we have nowhere to send readers. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 05:15, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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Candy Cane Lane, Cathedral City
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  as WP:G7. All of these redirects were created by the nominator. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:30, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Candy Cane Lane, Cathedral City">Candy Cane Lane, Cathedral City → Cathedral City, California (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Candy_Cane_Lane,_Cathedral_City&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Candy Cane Lane, West Allis">Candy Cane Lane, West Allis → West Allis, Wisconsin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Candy_Cane_Lane,_West_Allis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Candy Cane Lane, Saint Joseph">Candy Cane Lane, Saint Joseph → St. Joseph, Missouri (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Candy_Cane_Lane,_Saint_Joseph&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Candy Cane Lane, Woodland Hills">Candy Cane Lane, Woodland Hills → Woodland Hills, Los Angeles (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Candy_Cane_Lane,_Woodland_Hills&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, no incoming links, no mention on article. 117Avenue (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete no mention in article Chetsford (talk) 02:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: four identical discussions have been bundled. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:26, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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