Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 5

January 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 5, 2018.

Vaas Montenegro
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 12%23Vaas Montenegro

Harry Randall Truman
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:42, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Harry Randall Truman → Harry R. Truman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Randall_Truman&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect when the subject did not know his own middle name. Should be deleted as speculative at best. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * So this is awkward. I found a number of sources for "Randall," but it looks like we may have a case of citogenesis here. (Funny, given that the word "citogenesis" was coined by Randall Munroe.) Basically, for years, this article referred to him as "Harry Randall Truman", without any source attesting to the middle name. In that time, USA Today picked it up, as did Find A Grave and even the book Caesar's Last Breath by Sam Kean. While it's a shame that an error on here had such widespread effects, I think we have no choice but to keep this redirect as an r from incorrect name due to its widespread use. It may also be a good idea to change the clause in the article about his middle name to something like While some non-contemporaneous sources have given his middle name as Randall, Truman stated that he did not know his middle name, but rather just the initial, R.— PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  00:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Awkward indeed. I guess now the question comes down to whether it should be used as a footnote within opening sentence or the "life" section of his article. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:22, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - The error didn't start here. Harry Randall Truman was adopted based on the Find a Grave site; I only recently changed the article name to Harry R. Truman. Therefore, I don't think it should be deleted, because it may well be a correct name, but there are no reliable sources that support Randall as his middle name. I hope that clarifies the situation.  ceran  thor 04:28, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * USA Today is overall a credible publication (not as sure about the Sam Kean book), but if he really didn't know what his middle name was after all, then it would help to have a note like PinkAmpersand suggested should the redirect be kept. Snuggums (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 04:31, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think both the book and USA Today can be trusted. I'm more than happy to make a change per PinkAmpersand's suggestion (btw, PinkAmpersand, happy to see another Georgetown alum/student editing on here! :)  ceran  thor 04:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In that case, I withdraw this nomination and let's use both refs for now to accompany that note. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 05:04, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 2011–2030
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 2011–2030">Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 2011–2030 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_2011%E2%80%932030&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 2011-2030 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_2011-2030&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1991–2010">Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1991–2010 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_1991%E2%80%932010&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1991-2010 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_1991-2010&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1971–1990">Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1971–1990 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_1971%E2%80%931990&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1963–1970">Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1963–1970 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_1963%E2%80%931970&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor 1963-1970 → Template:Guldbagge Award Best Actor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:GuldbaggeAwardBestActor_1963-1970&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused and unlikely to be used again. Magioladitis (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Housekeeping. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:48, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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List of Free Software Lawsuits
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * List of Free Software Lawsuits → Copyright infringement (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Free_Software_Lawsuits&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of free software lawsuits → Copyright infringement (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_free_software_lawsuits&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was an article before it was redirected, target does not contain adequate content, hence the redirect is unhelpful. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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Urheberrecht
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Urheberrecht → Copyright (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urheberrecht&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RFOREIGN, not an especially German-related topic. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:43, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Copyright law of Germany. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, that is still a bad idea, why not Copyright law of Switzerland, where the term is also mentioned, or Copyright law of the European Union, see WP:XY. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:52, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I see Armbrust's point, but agree with Champion's XY concerns.— PinkAmpers  &#38;  <sup style="color:#000">( Je vous invite à me parler )  01:00, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:FORRED/WP:XY per above. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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Copyrights and related rights
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Copyrights and related rights → Copyright (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Copyrights_and_related_rights&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Copyright and related rights → Copyright (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Copyright_and_related_rights&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY, also vague as to what "related" means. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Implausible search terms.— PinkAmpers  &#38;  <sup style="color:#000">( Je vous invite à me parler )  01:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect / Delete - No article there, either redirect or delete fine. Jonpatterns (talk) 10:46, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete both - The unhelpful vagueness means that we shouldn't keep either of these. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * delete as vague -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:40, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete and related removals. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:36, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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Tropical Storm Israel
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 13%23Tropical Storm Israel

Gembaku
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 13%23Gembaku

Abhilash Pudukad
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 14%23Abhilash Pudukad

Disinfomedia
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fake news websites in the United States. If further consensus is desired, I would be more than happy to reopen & relist, just drop me a line on my talk page (all I ask is that you please be civil) (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 03:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Disinfomedia → Denver Guardian (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disinfomedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term is not mentioned in the article. This would more likely refer to fake news in general. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 20:58, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jestin Coler it's mentioned now in Denver Guardian which is also by Coler, and can be supported by independent sources.   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:59, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:15, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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Spider Ball
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 23:24, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Spider Ball → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spider_Ball&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Unnecessary redirect - delete. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator. Unnecessary due to the fact that it is not mentioned within the target article. No sense in keeping this. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 03:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:GAMEGUIDE AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Metroid II: Return of Samus where it is described. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:41, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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X-Ray Visor
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * X-Ray Visor → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=X-Ray_Visor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Far too vague to redirect to Metroid. Should be deleted and let the search function do its job. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, too vague of a term to redirect to a specific series. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:GAMEGUIDE AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:33, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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X-Ray Scope
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 12%23X-Ray Scope

Metroid creatures
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 12%23Metroid creatures

Ice Beam
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Ice Beam → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ice_Beam&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another Pokemon attack that is far too vague to redirect to Metroid. Should be deleted and let the search function do its job. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, too vague of a term to redirect to a specific series. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as there isn't even a freeze ray article. Possibly Raygun but not too useful without mention. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:37, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hyper Beam
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hyper Beam → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hyper_Beam&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

If I recall this is a Pokemon attack too. Far too vague to redirect to Metroid, should be deleted and let search function do its job. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It seems to be more connected to Pokemon Go than Metroid these days. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, too vague of a term to redirect to a specific series. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Shock Coil
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Shock Coil → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shock_Coil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Way too vague to be a pertinent redirect, and not mentioned in target article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:35, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the nominator that the redirect in question is too vague and is not mentioned within the current article. If the material were re-added to the target article, I would not object to the creation of a better, less ambiguous, redirect to it. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 04:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment could be weakly redirected to Shock absorber or Coil spring as related phrases. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:43, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, too vague of a term to redirect to a specific series. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. I see some merit in AngusWOOF's suggestion but I think it is still too vague for both targets -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Force Ball
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . (Isn't the Force Ball like Jedi prom?) --BDD (talk) 21:41, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Force Ball → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Force_Ball&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A variant of the Metroid item Morph Ball, but way too vague to be a pertinent redirect. Not mentioned in target article either. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:34, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, too vague of a term to redirect to a specific series. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:GAMEGUIDE AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:38, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Creatures in the Metroid series
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 * The result of the discussion was restored version and sent to AfD per consensus  . (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 03:53, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Creatures in the Metroid series → Characters in the Metroid series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Creatures_in_the_Metroid_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Article arguably does not pertain to the topic of the target article, which only has some creatures and does not claim to be a list of them. Any history in the redirect is purely fancruft and has since been transwikied. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete not described in the article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:39, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore a version of this page as an article, and send to WP:AFD. After seeing this edit which removed over 100k from this page, I'm not sure what version to restore. However, since I don't see an WP:AFD for this page, that should happen to form consensus to delete this page's edit history. Steel1943  (talk) 01:06, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore per Steel1943. Ironically, the redirect was kept in the previous RfD with the intent to restore the article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Metroid bosses
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 17:26, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Metroid bosses → Characters in the Metroid series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metroid_bosses&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE. The target article has some bosses but does not claim to be a list of them. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment has a list of significant characters organized by antagonist. I would think the bosses would be included in such a list. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:42, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, a reasonable redirect to a place that lists some bosses. The target is not specifically a "List of bosses", but one can get a sense of a few bosses from the game. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Items in the Metroid series
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 * The result of the discussion was version restored and sending over to AfD per consensus  . (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 02:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Items in the Metroid series → Metroid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Items_in_the_Metroid_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Target page does not pertain to the topic of the redirect. Unnecessary/fancruft, merits deletion. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:GAMEGUIDE AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:40, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore this revision and send to WP:AFD. As this redirect is a R with history (the revision I linked is over 81k in size), deleting so much edit history in one swoop is out of the scope of RfD and should be done at AfD. This redirect was the result of a seemingly undiscussed WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT. Steel1943  (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore per Steel1943. There's been over 2,000 edits to the article—deletion of this much content needs to take place at AfD. (The nominator is actually the top editor to the former article.) -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:05, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Back when I was editing it, it was a long time ago when fancruft policies were far more lax on Wikipedia. And as I recall, there were no Wikias to stick in-universe information, making people go to Wikipedia as the de facto source. But, I understand if it needs to go to AfD. I would still vote delete, due to the change in policies and the fact that the Metroid Wikia now contains all that info.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:59, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Vhozon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Vhozon → Characters in the Metroid series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vhozon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article anymore. Merits deletion. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:18, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the nominator, deletion is merited as the target does not mention the redirect anymore. If the information were re-added to the article, I would not see any issue with the redirect being restored. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 03:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment the race is briefly mentioned at Metroid Prime Hunters. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:01, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Rezbit
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Rezbit → Characters in the Metroid series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rezbit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article anymore. Merits deletion. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the nominator, deletion is merited as the target does not mention the redirect anymore. If the information were re-added to the article, I would not see any issue with the redirect being restored. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 04:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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Autrack
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:39, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Autrack → Characters in the Metroid series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Autrack&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article anymore. Merits deletion. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:16, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak delete I agree with the nominator, it is no longer mentioned and thus does not really need to be kept. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 03:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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Czech:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . SNOW close, pointless redirects. Tone 09:32, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Czech: → Czech language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Czech:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Polish: → Polish language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polish:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Turkish: → Turkish language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Slovak: → Slovak language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slovak:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * German: → German language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Latin: → Latin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Latin:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Serbian: → Serbian language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Serbian:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Russian: → Russian language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Russian:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Slovene: → Slovene language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slovene:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nonsense redirects created by a now-blocked user, not CSD eligible, but seems like a case of WP:SNOW to me. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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Korstanje, Maximiliano E.
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 * The result of the discussion was keep.  --BDD (talk) 21:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Korstanje, Maximiliano E.">Korstanje, Maximiliano E. → Maximiliano Korstanje (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korstanje,_Maximiliano_E.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Improbable search term. Guy (Help!) 21:28, 28 December 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Since was relisted, I felt it would be good to do so with this case.
 * DeleteWikipedia does not use surname-first format Apparently we do. Pam  D  00:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep. His name has been used in this format (eg: and ). -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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Korstanje, M. E.
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Korstanje, M. E. is a potentially viable search term that may be sought by outside searches and is within the style that many printed encyclopedias use. Having a redirect to this version of the name may prove beneficial/useful in the future. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this close, please do let me know on my talk page (and please be civil). (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 04:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Korstanje, M. E.">Korstanje, M. E. → Maximiliano Korstanje (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korstanje,_M._E.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Improbable search term Guy (Help!) 21:28, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Dear Guy, May I say au contraire. Korstanje, M. E. - Google Search yields results for books and articles where that's the nomenclature ie "surname, name and/or initial". It makes it easier for indexing and for a future print index; "" is added to such redirects. Granted wikipedia at present doesn't have any articles that contain "Korstanje, M. E." but outside searches are a possibility. Similar applies to "Korstanje, Maximiliano E.". "Maximiliano Emanuel Korstanje" yields more results on Google.

I've been through this with other redirects I've made. The consensus is keep in those cases. eg discussion to address the redirect Stromboulopoulos, George All the best. DadaNeem (talk) 00:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia does not use surname-first format. Astonishingly I find we apparently do. Pam  D  00:10, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi PamD. Excuse me but what do you mean by "Wikipedia does not use surname-first format"? DadaNeem (talk) 03:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I mean just that: Wikipedia does not use "Smith, John" as an article title although many printed encyclopedias would do so. It does not in general provide a redirect from that version to "John Smith". But I now see that there are some 80k redirects of this sort - though only a tiny proportion of all biographical articles - so it's not worth the bother of fighting here against the existence of these two, although I still consider them totally unnecessary and mildly unhelpful (in that they might encourage a reader or editor to start to expect to find an article or link at this inverted form instead of using the standard Wikipedia form of "forename surname"). On the other hand I do believe that it's useful, even important, to provide redirects from every plausible version of a person's non-inverted name, such as the redirect from Maximiliano Emanuel Korstanje: I create a lot of these, and it's pleasing how often they manage to turn an existing redlink blue, perhaps in a list of award-winners where people are listed with their formal full names. They also make it less likely that a future editor will accidentally create a duplicate article at a plausible alternative name.  Pam  D  09:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep as a fairly standard R from sort name: these don't yet exist for every biography but new ones get constantly created and it's likely that we will eventually catch up. This is is one of the things that I've heard wikipedia actually getting praised for. – Uanfala (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hence Hawking, S. W.. Oh, wait, that's a redlink. Actually I think Wikidata sorts this in the end. Guy (Help!) 10:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Maximiliano Emanuel Korstanje
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . It appears reasonable that a full name of an individual would be useful as it could very well be a viable search term. (For example, Michael Philip Jagger redirects to Mick Jagger, Taylor Alison Swift redirects to Taylor Swift etc). I do not see much sense in deleting this redirect as it currently stands. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Maximiliano Emanuel Korstanje → Maximiliano Korstanje (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maximiliano_Emanuel_Korstanje&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Improbable search term Guy (Help!) 21:29, 28 December 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Full name is a plausible search term or link. Pam  D  00:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep per PamD. – Uanfala (talk) 14:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's completely reasonable for somebody to search using the individual's full name. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:33, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:47, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment It appears that the redirect target is now PRODed. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 17:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Prod was removed by . --TheSandDoctor (talk) 04:19, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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