Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 8

January 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2018.

Jews and the United Arab Emirates
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Perfectly reasonable search term (WP:RFD #3). Additionally, WP:RFD #4 and WP:EXTERNALROT ("In most page moves, a redirect will remain at the old page—this won't cause a problem".)

As with all early (NAC) closes, if you object to this closure and wish for further discussion instead, please reach out to me on my talk page & I happily revert in favour of further discussion (and will get back to you as soon as possible (all I ask is that you please be civil)). (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Jews and the United Arab Emirates → History of the Jews in the United Arab Emirates (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jews_and_the_United_Arab_Emirates&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. No article links here, and no other "Jews and [a specific country]" page exists, the right format is "History of the Jews in [a given country]". There's nothing controversial about this, it is just a redundant page which someone may have created without putting much thought into it. Shalom11111 (talk) 21:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It seems clear the nom (a) has a vendetta against this redirect and (b) has never looked at its edit history. A redirect from a page move should be kept per WP:RFD #4 and WP:EXTERNALROT. This redirect is also a reasonable search term (WP:RFD #3), and for some reason it had 30 page views on January 1 (perhaps an article linked to it for a brief period). — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In contrary to the selective statistic given above, the said page, Jews and the United Arab Emirates, '''has been viewed 1 (yes, one) time during the entire month of December. The 30 views on Jan. 1st must've been mine as I checked the page and went back and forth to the its history and talk page, before proposing it for deletion. The past issue was that the page included information about another country, it was not about the redirect. It is advised, as you said, to keep it cool and not resort to blaming others of "vendetta" (a disclosure: I have an interest in Jewish history), as that could be a personal attack and has no place here. Having said that, it is clear that WP:EXTERNALROT/RFD#KEEP are of no use here, no article links to this page and it should follow this format like all others. Shalom11111 (talk) 09:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you should actually read the pages I cited, which are widely accepted as reasons to keep a redirect, instead of making up your own reasons for deleting it. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 11:31, 9 January 2018 (UTC):
 * Okay, let us examine the Wikipedia policies you cited on redirects:
 * WP:RFD#KEEP#3 says: "They aid searches on certain terms. For example, if someone sees the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but does not know what that refers to, then he or she will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article."
 * REFUTED: The page has had zero views for over two weeks this past December.
 * WP:RFD#KEEP#4 says: "You risk breaking incoming or internal links by deleting the redirect. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites."
 * REFUTED: No article in the entire English Wikipedia links to this redirect.
 * WP:EXTERNALROT: Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites"
 * Not relevant at all here, and and other than pointing at different policies, you haven't provided a single example to back up your opposition to something so obvious. This is a simple matter, it is a redundant, un-aesthetic redirect that should be deleted. Shalom11111 (talk) 08:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "Other than pointing at different policies" LOL That's what we're supposed to do, cite policies and guidelines, not repeatedly try to delete something useful because we don't like it. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 21:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - Someone interested in the topic of Jews living in this area could very well use this search term. It appears perfectly reasonable to me. That it may be only rarely helpful doesn't make it inherently useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:34, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - perfectly reasonable search term. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:03, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per all here except nominator. Debresser (talk) 22:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:TEA
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Teahouse. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * TEA → Wikipedia:A nice cup of tea and a sit down (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:TEA&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Although this is a helpful redirect to A nice cup of tea and a sit down, it is also a worthy redirect to Teahouse. As the Teahouse is the more dominant page in terms of pageviews, I should expect that a lot of people may end up typing this in to end up at the Teahouse, and find out that they do not. I would suggest doing the same thing as WP:CU does. ! dave 19:49, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Teahouse, a much more sensible target than this apparently not very frequently used essay. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:05, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Teahouse per Ivanvector. This is a no-brainer to me. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Teahouse It's a surprise to me that it didn't go there already. SteveStrummer (talk) 02:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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Bob Ashe
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . WP:CSD -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:30, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Bob Ashe → Mark Merlis (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Ashe&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As at Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 27, this is another case where a notable writer's non-notable spouse was created as a redirect to the writer for no discernible reason. We permit this sometimes if a notable person's spouse is a plausible search term in his or her own right, such as if they're on the cusp of having their own independent notability claim but don't quite actually pass an inclusion standard, but it's not a thing we routinely do for every article topic's husband or wife if there's no reason to believe anybody might actually be searching for them as a standalone topic. The only actual link to this anywhere in Wikipedia was in Mark Merlis's article, where it served no value since anybody who clicked on it would just end up right back at the same article they'd clicked from. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * you can delete it. Elisa.rolle (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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SRX (Metroid Fusion)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * SRX (Metroid Fusion) → Metroid Fusion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SRX_(Metroid_Fusion)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Non notable gamecruft not mentioned in the article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:44, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. SRX is mentioned in the citations, perhaps as a name of a level: "Sector 1 (SRX)", but no context for it. There is an "SA-X" though. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:57, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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X (Metroid enemy)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * X (Metroid enemy) → Metroid Fusion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=X_(Metroid_enemy)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Has an incorrect disambiguation. Would never be a valid article or redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:42, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the odd disambiguator with no/little precedence of use. Steel1943  (talk) 16:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment X parasite already exists and redirects to Metroid Fusion.  It's not really a particular enemy but a parasite.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 10:59, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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X-Parasite (video game species)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * X-Parasite (video game species) → Metroid Fusion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=X-Parasite_(video_game_species)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pointlessly disambiguated redirect, given that X-Parasite is also a redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:42, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the odd disambiguator with no/little precedence of use. Steel1943  (talk) 15:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment if this is kept, the tag for unnecessary disambiguation should be added AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 11:03, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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TRO (video game)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * TRO (video game) → Metroid Fusion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TRO_(video_game)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Has an incorrect disambiguation and is just gamecruft besides. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete TRO is not a video game. It is the shorthand for Sector 2 Tropical (TRO), but the names of the sectors are not discussed in the article so this is not particularly useful or notable.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 11:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Fusion Suit
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 16%23Fusion Suit

Magmaul
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Magmaul → Metroid Prime Hunters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magmaul&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the article. Unnecessary redirect - delete. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Hard to determine whether it's notable if it's not even mentioned at the targeted article. Some mention in gaming reviews but not consistently. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:03, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Electro Lob
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Electro Lob → Metroid Prime Hunters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Electro_Lob&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the article. Unnecessary redirect - delete. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:35, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:07, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Volt Driver
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Volt Driver → Metroid Prime Hunters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volt_Driver&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the article. Unnecessary redirect - delete. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:34, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete It's tempting to retarget this to Driver circuit or Voltage regulator though.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:08, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - It's also a little bit funny when searching this, since I also get results for people driving Chevy Volts. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Batarians (Mass Effect)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 15%23Batarians (Mass Effect)

Krogan (Mass Effect series)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 17%23Krogan (Mass Effect series)

Morality (Mass Effect)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 02:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Morality (Mass Effect) → Mass Effect (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morality_(Mass_Effect)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While the game contains a morality "system", there is nothing to suggest that it redefines the very concept of morality, which is what this redirect implies. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:11, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  03:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Term not mentioned in the general franchise article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:11, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. We shouldn't keep this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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Massively Effective
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 02:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Massively Effective → Mass Effect (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Massively_Effective&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in, or seemingly related to, the article in question. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  03:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Steel1943  (talk) 15:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This seems useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:13, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable neologism. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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