Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 6

March 6
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 6, 2018.

Baseball USA (Houston)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 15%23Baseball USA (Houston)

Revolution 5deg du nom
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Revolution 5 du nom created ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:09, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Revolution 5deg du nom → Révolution 5° du nom (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Revolution_5deg_du_nom&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

How many people would type in "deg"? feminist (talk) 16:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment might be okay, although I would create Revolution 5 du nom first as a R from stylization. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:08, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Note - eubot creation. Other than an odd spike last week this has seen zero activity in the past 90 days. Probably safe to delete. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete no one will type this. Legacypac (talk) 01:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: The target article could probably use another incoming redirect or two that is easy to type, considering that its only other incoming redirect is Revolution 5° du nom. Steel1943  (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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Upper Vardar dialect
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 15%23Upper Vardar dialect

Sister Sister Sister Tour
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:02, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Sister Sister Sister Tour → Haim (band) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sister_Sister_Sister_Tour&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term not found in target article; no evidence that this is a useful redirect. Pam D  21:36, 26 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Keep as related name of their tour.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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Greek Orthodox Ochrid Archbishopric
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Greek Orthodox Ochrid Archbishopric → Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek_Orthodox_Ochrid_Archbishopric&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With the exception of the foreign text at the bottom of the lead, this target article doesn't seem to have any affinity with any aspect Greek. That, and if there was any Greek affinity, most likely such a title would be in Greek itself. Steel1943 (talk) 23:41, 16 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * There might be something here. Orthodox organization can be very confusing, but I get the sense from the lede and Reference 45 especially that this is the orthodox church in Macedonia aligned with mainstream Eastern Orthodoxy, as opposed to Macedonian Orthodox Church – Ohrid Archbishopric. That's perhaps more of an argument for Eastern Orthodox Ochrid Archbishopric, though I think Greek-Macedonian relations have some relevance. I'm not inclined to delete. --BDD (talk) 21:12, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 07:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'll leave a note at WP:EO to see if we can get more participation.
 * The matter is probably quite intricate (see BDD's comment above), but isn't it possible that the "Greek Orthodox" used in the title of the redirect could simply be a synonym for "Orthodox"? – Uanfala (talk) 20:23, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete. This Archbishopric belongs to the Serbian Orthodox Church, which is part of the Slavic Orthodoxy, not Greek Orthodoxy. There is really nothing Greek in it.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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Bepis
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 03:28, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Bepis → Pepsi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bepis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:NOTNEO. I don't mind slang terms being used for redirects, but this is overdoing it... Thegreatluigi (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Without any context on the Pepsi article, this has no value. Retarget if the meme is notable enough for the List of Internet memes   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:02, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I imagine this will get created again at some point, but at the moment we aren't making use of it. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 11:08, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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Peppsey
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:04, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Peppsey → Pepsi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peppsey&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems too implausible of a misspelling to be worthwhile. Thegreatluigi (talk) 20:10, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Refers to non-notable usernames rather than alternative brand spellings. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:47, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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Cracker juice
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:04, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Cracker juice → Orange juice (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cracker_juice&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Aside from the obvious problem that the company is called "Cracker Drinks", they make other drinks than just orange juice. Thegreatluigi (talk) 20:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not notable phrase except in Urban Dictionary as a random oxymoronic phrase "dry as cracker juice", which isn't really used notably in news articles or magazines.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:50, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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Petsmort
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:04, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Petsmort → PetSmart (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Petsmort&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely misspelling. Steel1943 (talk) 19:19, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's only really one letter, but I can't imagine how anyone could think "smart" was spelled "smort"... Thegreatluigi (talk) 19:57, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It's not like the A is stylized to look like an O in the logo. (they use all-caps) AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete in the unlikely chance some types this, search will get them there. Legacypac (talk) 02:27, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as a probable WP:ATTACK page. Pets + mort looks like an attempt to disparage the subject. No evidence that the term is commonly used. - Eureka Lott 16:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
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Cheesie puffs
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:04, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Cheesie puffs → Cheese puffs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheesie_puffs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Cheesie" is an unlikely misspelling of "cheese" or "cheesy". In fact, Chessie is a disambiguation page with no entries related to cheese at all. Steel1943 (talk) 19:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak keep as with Cheese doodles AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:52, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - a familiar name to Canadians, though I think normally spelled with a zed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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Cheese poofs
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 20:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Cheese poofs → Cheese puffs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheese_poofs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Poofs" is not a widely-used alternative name for the subject. Either retarget to South Park as a misspelling of Cheesy Poofs or delete. Steel1943 (talk) 19:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom as most likely usage of the term. No news articles showing use of "cheese poofs" prior to South Park. Also okay to Keep since the article has a list of different brands of cheese puffs actual and fictional. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Striking vote. Only Cheezy Poofs, Cheesy Poofs and Cheesie Poofs should go to the South Park one. This is closer to the original puffs article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:25, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - For Google Results: Page 1 is obviously South Park stuff, Page 2 onwards is more or less about "Cheesy Poofs" is an alternative name, The article mentions "Cheesy Poofs" as an alternative name so IMHO it makes more sense to Keep than to retarget (Although I can see the logic in retargetting). – Davey 2010 Talk 18:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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So rich
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:03, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * So rich → Mickey Avalon (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_rich&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target subject has a song named "So Rich, So Pretty". But, this redirect, as it stands, is a ambiguous partial title match that could even describe Wealth. Steel1943 (talk) 19:06, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No primary topic for the short phrase. So rich so pretty already exists. Also messes up searches for Sorich which could be a dab for Michael Sorich, Sorich Park, and Bruno Sorich. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:17, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not useful Legacypac (talk) 02:29, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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Joi choi
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:02, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Joi choi → Bok choy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joi_choi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Unclear how the word "joi" describes the target. Steel1943 (talk) 19:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as variant of bok choy     AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:25, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per AngusWOOF. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:40, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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Fresh salsa
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Surburbia
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 15%23Surburbia

Bull of red
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Per WP:YODA ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:00, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Bull of red → Red Bull (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bull_of_red&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The phrases is not used as any marketing by its topic. The redirect fails WP:NOTNEO. Steel1943 (talk) 17:12, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Nom of Delete AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Redirect of completely implausible. Thegreatluigi (talk) 19:56, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep not - for things one day by their authors invented, Wikipedia is not. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:43, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Soon Eliminate - Useless this redirect seems. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:26, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Although most languages use prepositional phrases rather than using nouns directly as adjectives, this is not a plausible grammatical error since red is typically used as an adjective. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 17:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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Internet shorthand notation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 03:30, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Internet shorthand notation → Mathematical markup language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet_shorthand_notation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete – The redirect arose as the outcome of a 2007 deletion discussion, the idea being that the (unsourced) content might be merged to the redirect target. However, this never happened and the target article does not reference the concept of an "Internet notation" or other shorthand notation in any way, making the redirect useless or even confusing. --Lambiam 10:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak retarget to Internet slang since that mentions Internet shorthand in the lead sentence. Note there is nothing in List of shorthand systems. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Remark. A Google search for "Internet shorthand notation" only returns results going back on the pre-2007 Wikipedia article or the current redirect. Apparently, it is not a plausible search term for the topic of the Internet slang article. So the proposed retargeting will not be useful. --Lambiam 11:35, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete - This just doesn't appear to be useful. I could be persuaded to keep it, but as things stand we should just get rid of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoffeeWithMarkets (talk • contribs)
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Dustrubia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:59, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Dustrubia → Disturbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dustrubia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely misspelling. For reference, Dustrub doesn't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as implausible double typo. WP:R3 AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:43, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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Autrefois
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Killiondude (talk) 03:30, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Autrefois → Double jeopardy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Autrefois&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While the word autrefois probably appears more in the context of double jeopardy than it does anywhere else in English, it's still very strange to have a somewhat common word from a major world language redirecting to a legal concept with no real relation to the word's meaning. If it were a more common word, I'd say softly redirect to Wiktionary, but it isn't, and there doesn't seem to be any logical target here on Wikipedia, so I propose we delete.  — PinkAmpers  &#38;  <sup style="color:#000">( Je vous invite à me parler )  00:04, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: Page's target from '07 to '11 was peremptory plea, a related topic. — PinkAmpers  &#38;  <sup style="color:#000">( Je vous invite à me parler )  00:04, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN — JFG talk 00:14, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep or retarget to peremptory plea. There's quite a bit of this usage in the legal context, even on this very encylopedia.  The Law French page just points autrefois convict and autrefois acquit to peremptory plea (which they already redirect to) so this would presumably be useful.  I recognize that WP:RFOREIGN exists, but this is a case where the foreign word isn't commonly used in English for its French meaning via direct translation, but rather as a specific use — one could even argue that legalese qualifies as "some form of English."  There could be an argument for dabification — with links to the two legal terms, Autrefois, Maison Privée, Hang On Little Tomato, Giuseppe Silvestri, La damnation de Faust, and List of compositions by Jules Massenet — but honestly most of those are fairly tenuous and are all meant in the context of the French meaning. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:58, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that RFOREIGN does not apply to the redirects for autrefois acquit and autrefois convict, since Law French is self-evidently relevant to the topic of law. However, as far as I know autrefois is not a freestanding term in Law French. Rather, it appears only in those compounds, in the related term autrefois attaint, and maybe in a few other compounds of which I'm unaware; but never on its own. The fundamental problem here isn't so much one of RFOREIGN, as it is that we're redirecting a foreign word to a topic with which it has only an indirect connection (and this is true in the case of either of the two targets). If the common name here were in English—formerly acquitted, let's say—would it make sense for formerly to redirect to either of these articles? — PinkAmpers  &#38;  <sup style="color:#000">( Je vous invite à me parler )  23:07, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I think your analogy isn't quite right. The proper analogy would be if formerly acquitted was used in the French legal system, and the only place the word "formerly" showed up in the French language was in that context.  That doesn't seem too crazy to me, but then again I expect to be in the minority here. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:58, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Based on this context, I believe the redirect of just "autrefois" is misleading. Legal expressions do not use this word on its own, and they are already appropriately redirected. A reader searching for "autrefois" will see the and, they should not see a plain "autrefois". — JFG talk 15:02, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Weak keep roughly per Amorymeltzer. Loanwords often end up with absurdly narrowed meanings compared to their original language (c.f. guanxi vs "relationship", apparatchik vs "operator"); this just seems like another example of that. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 18:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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Babbage patch kids
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:59, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Babbage patch kids → Cabbage Patch Kids (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Babbage_patch_kids&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Highly unlikely misspelling due to the notability of its target. Steel1943 (talk) 17:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Right now it refers to a non-notable song by ZillaKami X SosMula.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:14, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete useless mispelling. Seach results will get someone there. Legacypac (talk) 02:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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White guy
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Merocino cherry
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Merocino cherry → Maraschino cherry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Merocino_cherry&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not seeing this as a likely misspelling in the least. Also, Merocino doesn't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 17:00, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - my first thought is maybe a plausible phonetic typo because of the tendency for "c followed by a vowel" to be pronounced as "ch". However, if that were the case there would be stats supporting its usefulness. The API seems to think this page does not exist, so that's not hopeful. The creator was blocked today for "spamming redirects", however this redirect is not recent. Does not appear to be useful. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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Aaron Shapiro
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Huge (digital agency). Hatnotes are cheap, should the draft get approved, and so is G6 ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:52, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Aaron Shapiro → Aaron Sapiro (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aaron_Shapiro&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misspelling no evidence this is needed potentially notable Advertising exec by the redirect version of the name. Legacypac (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Huge (digital agency) of which he is the CEO.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:06, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I should be more clear. There is a Draft:Aaron Shapiro and this misleading redirect holds up it's potential promotion. Legacypac (talk) 02:36, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * A distinguish hatnote can be added to direct folks to the Huge exec if the redirect is retained, or vice versa, depends on how this ends up. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget per AngusWOOF. Iff the draft is chosen for promotion, there will need to be a discussion about how to disambiguate these two living businessmen from New York, and an admin or pagemover can handle moving pages to where they need to be at that time. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:46, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Where would that discussion happen? If retargeted, the redirect just sits in the way of a move. Legacypac (talk) 17:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
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Monster Reborn
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Monster Reborn → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monster_Reborn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a procedural nomination from WT:RFD, where 69.118.34.204 writes: "Think that redirect should be deleted, but unfortunately, it is protected so that only admins can edit it. My rationale is that the redirect refers to just one Yu-Gi-Oh! card that is not mentioned anywhere in the target article and is not a franchise trademark like the "Blue-Eyes White Dragon," "Dark Magician," and "Exodia." Even though it was used quite a lot in the anime and considered a must-have for anyone playing the card game, people will not likely search for individual cards here, they would do it on a Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki, the franchise's official website, places that sell cards, etc." -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:19, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. If it's not covered anywhere then it has no business being a redirect. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 19:11, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete And if there is a good reason for protecting then salt the article.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:18, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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Heinz chicken & Golden sweetcorn Soup
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Heinz chicken & Golden sweetcorn Soup">Heinz chicken & Golden sweetcorn Soup → Heinz (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heinz_chicken_%26_Golden_sweetcorn_Soup&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is one of those where I'm sure it could have been speedy deleted, but I wasn't sure which criteria it fit under... Thegreatluigi (talk) 15:16, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete implausably capitalized search term. If someone knows Heinz makes the soup they will type Heinz Legacypac (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the unavoidable WP:SURPRISE. Steel1943  (talk) 17:20, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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Ethiop
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Killiondude (talk) 03:32, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Ethiop → Ethiopia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethiop&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ethiope → People of Ethiopia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethiope&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The Oxford English Dictionary defines this archaic word as "A black or dark-skinned person; a black African; (occasionally) an Ethiopian.". So there are two meanings, and picking one of them as the target of a redirect is bad, especially given that it's apparently not the most prominent one. I think these redirects should be either deleted per WP:XY, or turned into soft redirects to wikt:Ethiop, or dabified. Noting also the existence of the, probably irrelevant, dab page Aethiops. Pinging participants in the previous discussion:, , ,. – Uanfala (talk) 04:55, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment We've got some other articles which touch on the origin of this term, like Aethiopia and Black people in Ancient Roman history. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 10:17, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment note that both can be considered alternate spellings to their ligatured counterparts, Aethiop and Aethiope (both also redlinks), which may aid in determining what to do with these. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:57, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Dabify Well I obviously think having these around is useful, although I'm not sure what would be best. A dab with wiktionary, the historical links provided by 59.149.124.29, and the current two targets might be the most straightforward and helpful.  Incorporating the content at Aethiops and pointing everything to one target would make the most sense to me. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:02, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I think this is a reasonable suggestion. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I suppose Aethiops would be the best place for it: it's the original latin, and a current dab to build off. Ethiop references Aethiops, so it makes sense. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:57, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I also support the idea that we disambiguate these terms. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:21, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
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Porn star suicide
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Porn star suicide → August Ames (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Porn_star_suicide&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Pornstar suicide → August Ames (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pornstar_suicide&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not appropriate to point this term to a specific event. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 03:07, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete current target is inappropriate per nominator, and in the absence of a topic article for Category:Pornographic film actors who committed suicide, we have nowhere in mainspace to point these terms. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 06:15, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not appropriate. Legacypac (talk) 16:27, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Inappropriate on all levels. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:00, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete if we had a well sourced article regarding suicides of people in the porn industry or a sizeable subsection in a larger article this redirect would make sense. Though as it stands it shouldn’t redirect to a single persons article especially since the category mentioned earlier shows that she not the only one to commit suicide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.210.105 (talk) 00:11, 8 March 2018‎ (UTC)
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African Aster
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 15%23African Aster

Bussing
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . No comment on busing (or busing (disambiguation). ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Bussing → Desegregation busing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bussing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Student transport or Bus. A British term probably shouldn't redirect to a topic that deals with the United States. feminist (talk) 08:56, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting for more input, in particular whether or not Busing should be listed here as well.
 * I would agree Student transport makes a better target and is less US-centric. I don't think redirecting to Bus is the right idea, as "bussing" refers to an action, not a device. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 15:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Student transport — JFG talk 18:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, as bussing may also refer to bussing dishes per Busboy. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:02, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Is it worth adding busing to this? The nomination is concerned with the british-ness of bussing, but I wonder if the ocean is justification to have bussing and busing go to different places. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I would rather disambiguate this as well. It's worth mentioning "Busing"/"Bussing" is also a last name for multiple individuals. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:59, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, since there's at least one more meaning: kissing. SteveStrummer (talk) 02:49, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate bussing (drafted under the redirect). Keep busing. Retarget busing (disambiguation) to bussing (it currently points to bus (disambiguation), but none of the entries there can be inflected -ing). Based on Google Books searches, desegregation busing is the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT of "busing", but there is no PRIMARYREDIRECT for "bussing" , possibly due to the WP:ENGVAR difference. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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