Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 8

March 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 8, 2018.

List of items in Sonic games
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Killiondude (talk) 00:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * List of items in Sonic games → Sonic the Hedgehog (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_items_in_Sonic_games&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as fancruft, and as there is no list in target article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:36, 10 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - no such list exists, or ever should, per WP:GAMECRUFT. Sergecross73   msg me  04:11, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 04:59, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. WP:GAMECRUFT is a good application here.  Such a list is really only a fit for Wikia, and wouldn't be in a main article either.   Red Phoenix  talk  22:33, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine to Sonic the Hedgehog. Okay it's not a list per se, but the original goal content of that redirect is covered in the target, fairly in-depth.  May not be a pure list, but it's close enough to be useful. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 02:02, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Refine per Amory. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:42, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine per amory Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 19:54, 20 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: WP:INVOLVED relist to close Feb. 20 log page
 * Indifferent. There do appear to a few similarly titled articles as well as a modest number of redirects with similar names, so it's conceivable that readers might expect search phrases beginning with "List of items in" to take them somewhere useful. Still, such redirects aren't that common, and this particular one doesn't appear to be used much either: it received a total of 10 views for the whole of last year. – Uanfala (talk) 05:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine per Amory – the proposed target section seems to contain the content that the reader is likely to be looking for. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 17:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine per Amory. Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:09, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:09, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I may be going against the grain here, but I still have to support deletion. Keeping the redirect seems to imply that having such gaming-centric, detailed lists is standard and accepted on Wikipedia, which it certainly isn't. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Except it's well known that we do have many lists (in fact, I'd say enWiki is (in)famous for its lists). As I said above, the material may not be at the "List of X" page, but the material that person would want is on the 'pedia; it'd be silly not to make it easier for them to find given that it costs us nothing.  If someone searching for "List of items in Sonic games" would come away empty handed, we should delete this; if they'd be fine with what they find, we should keep it. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete List of items ≠ Common features. And we shouldn't make a list of items either. There's really no good reason to have a redirect with this title. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 02:07, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:SPURIOUS
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . No prejudice against repurposing the shortcut to a more sensible target. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:57, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * SPURIOUS → Wikipedia:User pages (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SPURIOUS&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

According to this edit this was created to be “more subtle” than WP:FAKEARTICLE. I can’t see how a word that is defined as false, not authentic, not genuine and also synonymous with fake, false and bogus] is somehow more subtle than FAKEARTICLE just because one user misinterpreted its meaning. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:37, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * 'fake' is quite heavily charged these days (think of Fake news), somehow equated to deliberate misinformation or hoaxes. But spurious normally means "not the real thing, of dubious value" which is softer and less personal. It was a bold introduction. If no-one likes it then getting rid of it would be best. Prince of Thieves (talk) 20:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not sure about this, but the immediate, plain reading of the word "spurious" (to me) is something that's outright wrong. It sounds pejorative. I can also see this redirect referring to other points in terms of using Wikipedia (as in "don't create linkages that aren't clearly there" \ "don't violate WP:OR"). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I would have expected to see this go to either the target of WP:FAKE or to that of WP:HOAX. – Uanfala (talk) 23:48, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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Redirects to subpages of Portal:Africa/Featured article
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Portal:Africa/Featured article/26 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/11 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/26&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Portal:Africa/Featured article/27 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/18 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/27&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Portal:Africa/Featured article/28 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/1 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/28&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Portal:Africa/Featured article/29 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/7 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/29&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Portal:Africa/Featured article/30">Portal:Africa/Featured article/30 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/17 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/30&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Portal:Africa/Featured article/31">Portal:Africa/Featured article/31 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/2 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/31&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Portal:Africa/Featured article/32">Portal:Africa/Featured article/32 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/1 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/32&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Portal:Africa/Featured article/33">Portal:Africa/Featured article/33 → Portal:Africa/Featured article/4 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Africa/Featured_article/33&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These redirects are all subpages of Portal:Africa/Featured article. I'm nominating these for the simple fact that they are redirects that are both blocking the creation of new content at these titles for those who may want to assist this portal in the future who may not be used to how the coding in Wikipedia works, as well as the fact that these redirects cause their targets to be transcluded twice at Portal:Africa/Featured article, possibly confusing those trying to view the list. So, I'm more or less requesting deletion of these redirects for housekeeping purposes. Steel1943 (talk) 19:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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Portal:Abkhazia/elected picture
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Portal:Abkhazia/elected picture">Portal:Abkhazia/elected picture → Portal:Abkhazia/Selected picture (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Abkhazia/elected_picture&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems like unlikely typo. Steel1943 (talk) 18:36, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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Political Economy of Research & Innovation
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G7, by .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:40, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Political Economy of Research & Innovation">Political Economy of Research & Innovation → Political Economy of Research and Innovation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%27%27Political_Economy_of_Research_%26_Innovation%27%27&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete since the use of consecutive apostrophes in page titles has been restricted by the title creation blacklist for almost three years now due to technical reasons. (Per the creator, I am not opposed to Political Economy of Research & Innovation being created.) Steel1943  (talk) 17:49, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Created as above. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Housekeeping formatting issue. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as cleanup. --TeaDrinker (talk) 19:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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Pohadka máje
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 19:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pohadka máje">Pohadka máje → Pohádka máje (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pohadka_m%C3%A1je&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Pohádka maje">Pohádka maje → Pohádka máje (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poh%C3%A1dka_maje&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Why would one accent be there and not the other? Non-accented phrase Pohadka maje already exists as redirect. To start making combos of accents is implausible. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * They may or may not help. Best case scenario they help, worst case scenario they don't do anything. Now, could we please move on to more important things? Plenty of more important work to do on Wikipedia than this. Dr. Vogel (talk) 17:04, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per DrVogel 's rationale but not their self-righteousness . These are harmless. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:25, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Apology very sorry, didn't mean to come across as self-righteous. What I meant to say was (and I realise I did so badly), was that unfortunately we all have limited amounts of energy, and I think our energy is better spent on things that are far more useful than worrying about a couple of harmless (at worst) redirects. Sorry. Dr. Vogel (talk) 19:31, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Struck; noted and appreciated. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I've been through a couple hundred of his redirects, he accounts for many naming conventions and forms that are likely for people in other countries with other keyboards to use. I understand the nom, but I'd argue it only looks at it from an English language perspective. <b style="color:#000080">S EMMENDINGER </b> (<b style="color:#F80"> talk </b>) 03:50, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Not a massively implausible typo. Doesn't seem implausible enough to delete, at any rate. Thegreatluigi (talk) 13:18, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep both, plausible and harmless redirects. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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Early reader
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Learning to read. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 19:29, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Early reader → Reading (process) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Early_reader&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm thinking this should be retargeted to Learning to read. Steel1943 (talk) 13:04, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds fair enough to retarget. This redirect was supposed to be about people just learning to read. Reading (process) is a much higher level topic. I would not have objected to a bold change at all. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget, I agree with the above comments. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:49, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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Rauding
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 15%23Rauding

Iblast
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:50, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Iblast → Internet access (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iblast&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, however we do have IBlast Moki -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:54, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as a possible company redlink.   There's also a company that makes headphones, some kind of hair dryer   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:32, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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Mind/body exercise
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Mind–body interventions. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 04:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mind/body exercise">Mind/body exercise → Alternative medicine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mind/body_exercise&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect doesn't make a lot of sense. Mind/body exercise may be part of some alternative medicine, but it's also part of real medicine, as well as various versions that don't claim to be medicine at all. Complicating things, it appears that this was once the title of the article currently called Alternative medicine, so simple deletion is probably not a good idea. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 01:54, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Mind–body interventions. The page appears to be started by User:Neelix as a move - maybe he deleted the earlier page? It looks like the material at this title is at my proposed target and it is a closer match. Legacypac (talk) 02:12, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Legacypac has a good idea, retarget is more useful then deletion. Also while doing this, retarget Mind–body exercise as well. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've retargeted Mind-body exercise now. Given that we are fixing both back to the original target I think this is best. Legacypac (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget per Legacypac. The nominator is correct in saying the redirect as it stands makes no sense though. <b style="color:#000080">S EMMENDINGER </b> (<b style="color:#F80"> talk </b>) 12:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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