Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 20

May 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 20, 2018.

OBCD
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 28%23OBCD

Cyecwu City
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 28%23Cyecwu City

Croizee
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 28%23Croizee

Helen Hunt (Fiske) Jackson
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:24, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Helen Hunt (Fiske) Jackson → Helen Hunt Jackson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Helen_Hunt_(Fiske)_Jackson&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Due to the odd formatting of this redirect, specifically the parentheses, this redirect is unlikely and confusing as a search term. Steel1943 (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Fiske appears to be her maiden name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:40, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - People aren't going to search like this. We don't have 'Julia (Louis) Dreyfus', 'Barack (Hussein) Obama', and 'Charles (Nelson) Riley'. This seems like a clear-cut case for deletion. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:18, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Those are examples of middle names not maiden names. Middle names in this format are indeed implausible as search, but maiden names less so as a Jane Smith née Jane Jones could be listed as Jane (Jones) Smith or Jane Smith (Jones) in various places, although (at least in the UK) the latter is more common. Thryduulf (talk) 00:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree that these generally aren't helpful, but I don't see how this can be confusing — it is hyper-specific and will take anybody directly to the appropriate target, where it is immediately clear what her name is and was. I don't want to create a precedent for these sort of redirects, but it's been around untouched since 2004, so I don't see the harm. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per my above comments (they weren't as explicitly in favour of this outcome as I thought). Thryduulf (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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Ahmed Matan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 00:32, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Ahmed Matan → List of converts to Christianity (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Matan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently mentioned in this (or apparently any other) article. – Uanfala (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete No longer on the list as he used to be back in 2010 to 2012. The lists assume Wikipedia level notability for its entries.     AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:34, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per AngusWOOF. Thryduulf (talk) 12:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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Distinguishing right from wrong
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 29%23Distinguishing right from wrong

Toad from the video game mario
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:45, 27 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Toad from the video game mario → Toad (Nintendo) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toad_from_the_video_game_mario&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No one would type out the title of the page when they can use something shorter. See CSD R3. Nigos (t@lk • Contribs) 06:46, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This seems useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - our search will handle this as a search term quite happily without the redirect.  Richard 0612  10:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm sure a Google search will bring readers to what they're looking for. ToThAc (talk) 15:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as more frivolous created links associated with Toad. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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Longest article
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 * The result of the discussion was   Move to Longest article.  Hard redirects to Special don't work, but Longest Wikipedia Article was kept as that is where the page used to live.  Longest Wikipedia article exists as a leftover from a unilateral move (histmerge would probably be appropriate, albeit confusing after all these years).  As the consensus below is not to keep this one, and AFAIK there's no historical reason to keep this for incoming external links, moving to Longest article is reasonable.  ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 12:18, 27 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Longest article → Special:LongPages (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Longest_article&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Crossnamespace redirect from mainspace to special. (Note: Redirects to the special namespace don't work and are effectively soft redirects.) —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete "article" is vague and could refer to things outside of Wikipedia. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:10, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Champion and the fact that cross-namespace redirects should generally have a very good reason for existing. This does not qualify.  Richard 0612  10:43, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Move to Longest article instead, but keep the target. While I do agree with the nominator's rationale, given the page history, it seems better to simply eliminate the cross-namespace part of the redirect and keep it intra-namespace instead. ToThAc (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete for the simple fact that any redirect to the "Special:" namespace of forced by the wiki software to be a soft redirect, and there doesn't seem to be any appropriate page in either the "Wikipedia:" or "Help:" namespaces to target such a redirect from any namespace. Steel1943  (talk) 23:54, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - As stated above, "article" can refer to a bunch of different things. I wouldn't object, though, to having 'Longest article' come into being. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:13, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Longest Wikipedia article exists as a (soft) redirect to special:longpages. Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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