Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 30

May 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 30, 2018.

H:API
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn; speedily deleted  per G7 by Anthony Appleyard. (non-admin closure)  —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 07:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)


 * H:API → mw:API (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:API&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Help:API and API are appropriate redirects but H:API is not: plain soft redirect is not used in the mainspace (see ; pseudo-namespaces are technically in the mainspace) and existing "H:" pages are generally (if not universally) pointed to local targets. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 21:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * That's understandable. I will G7 this redirect right now. 108.26.217.72 (talk) 23:05, 30 May 2018 (UTC) (  python coder    t   c  — logged out)
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Silence(film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Silence(film) → Silence (2010 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silence(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A disambiguation page titled "Silence (film)", with a space before the parenthesis, already exists. — Hugh (talk) 20:43, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete or just make the target Silence (film). Pichpich (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 21:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - And it should be noted that a great many productions appear to be titled either Silence or The Silence (see Silence_(disambiguation)). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Rock Juice
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 * The result of the discussion was Move  . (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Rock Juice → The Piper Downs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rock_Juice&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Rock Juice" currently redirects to the band The Piper Downs because until 2012 the term was used for an album by that band. That album was deemed non-notable and the term was redirected to the band. Suggest that the term be redirected again to Rock Juice (Flamin' Groovies album), which has demonstrated notability. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 16:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - If my suggestion is approved, the article for the Flamin' Groovies album could probably be moved to simply Rock Juice as well. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 16:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Move Rock Juice (Flamin' Groovies album) over redirect and hatnote to The Piper Downs. The Flamin' Groovies album still needs to meet notability though, but that's a different story. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:10, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * What Angus said. Raymond1922 (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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Currydon
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Donburi. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:39, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Currydon → Donburi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Currydon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. For this reason, without an explanation, this redirect seems like a neologism of some sort. Steel1943 (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Refine to Donburi which is curry don. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:52, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 15:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Refine per AngusWOOF, given usage in printed sources like . I kinda think the relation between "currydon" and "karēdon" is already clear enough without the exact string "currydon" appearing there, since "curry" is explicitly mentioned, but I wouldn't object if someone added it. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 11:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Indomina Releasing
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Jas Mann. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Indomina Releasing → A Fantastic Fear of Everything (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indomina_Releasing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete This article was created by a well known sockpuppeteer, Alma Fordy. It was created by this user who was blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry. No sources available and no information about the article. Evil Idiot (talk) 15:17, 22 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete and create retarget to Jas Mann who founded Indomina Group. This was a small distribution company  which closed in 2013.    AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:07, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed above so that sockpuppeteer doesn't get credit for creating redirect, which went to the wrong spot anyway. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:21, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jas Mann - And we can expand that page with more details about the individual's business efforts. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:54, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Nokia 5700 XpressMsuic
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Nokia 5700 XpressMsuic → Nokia 5700 XpressMusic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nokia_5700_XpressMsuic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo. Appears to have been created by move shortly after creation. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 14:24, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom housekeeping. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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Religious founder
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 8%23Religious founder

Tim Spears (rugby)/Cydebot
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 7%23Tim Spears (rugby)/Cydebot

Religious affiliation
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 7%23Religious affiliation

State broadcaster
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to State media. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * State broadcaster → Public broadcasting (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_broadcaster&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Currently, State broadcaster redirects to Public broadcasting. But shouldn't the former be distinguished from either 'public(-service) broadcasting' or 'public(-sector) broadcaster'?

I believe state broadcasters (like USSR's Gosteleradio, North Korea's KCBC, and Malaysia's RTM) are directly owned by the central government1) and don't have editorial freedom, while public-sector broadcasters (like the UK's BBC, and Japan's post-WW2 NHK), while established by relevant laws, are operated under a board independent from the government, and have their editorial independence guaranteed. (And public-service broadcasters, whether it is a public-sector or a private non-profit, do what commercial broadcasters don't even touch.)
 * 1) Some of state broadcasters in some countries under dictatorship may take the form of 'board of directors' (like the BBC) to make them look like independent, but their boards are in fact useless, and don't have editorial freedom anyway.

If an article about 'broadcasters directly controlled by central government' can't be created immediately, couldn't State broadcaster be redirected to State media for now? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 05:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to State media, for the sensible reasons you state. — Hugh (talk) 00:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to State media, although I can see that page there requiring some additional expansion to describe dictatorial media in practice CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Mute R. Kelly
<span id="Mute R. Kelly (hashtag)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 7%23Mute R. Kelly

Midquel, Interquel, Sidequel, Paraquel
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 8%23Midquel, Interquel, Sidequel, Paraquel