Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 16

November 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 16, 2018.

Neoclassical poetry
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Neoclassical poetry → Neoclassicism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neoclassical_poetry&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Poetry is not mentioned in the target, so a reader who searches for this term is left none the wiser as to its meaning. None of the articles that mention this phrase seems like a better target. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect is not as good as using Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:38, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled Trooper (album)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 27%23Untitled Trooper (album)

"Untitled" subjects that now have titles
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled The Saturdays album → Wordshaker (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_The_Saturdays_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Yoshi game → Yoshi's Crafted World (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Yoshi_game&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled third Five Nights at Freddy's novel (2018) → Five Nights at Freddy's (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_third_Five_Nights_at_Freddy%27s_novel_(2018)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These subjects now all have titles, and thus are misleading/outdated. Steel1943 (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom, no longer of use. Technically, the Yoshi one wasn’t ever any good, just the by-product of a bad page move. Sergecross73   msg me  19:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - I do also believe that these pages are unnecessary to keep, since existing pages have content based on them. Cosecant57 (talk) 05:16, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all. While these redirects are useful for a while after the article is moved, that period has passed in all these cases. Thryduulf (talk) 16:17, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled X-Men TV series
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Unopposed ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:52, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled X-Men TV series → X-Men (film series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_X-Men_TV_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear what this refers to, especially considering that it targets a “film series” article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:54, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled Shadows Project
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High strength
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भौतिक शास्त्र
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 15:52, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * भौतिक शास्त्र → Physics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AD%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95_%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:FORRED. The target does not have affinity for any particular language. Steel1943 (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 18:09, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Catrìona (talk) 03:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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Research and discovery
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Research and discovery → Research (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_and_discovery&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY. Could also refer to one of many subjects listed at Discovery. Steel1943 (talk) 18:11, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. It doesn't seem to have a specific use. If it is kept in some form there should be a hatnote to Research and development but I'm not sure that would be a good primary target. Thryduulf (talk) 18:16, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I could imagine someone intending to search for research and development mistyping this instead. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:51, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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Graduate Certificate Research Commercialisation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Graduate Certificate Research Commercialisation → Research (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Graduate_Certificate_Research_Commercialisation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target, and the redirect is so WP:PRECISE that it is a WP:SURPRISE. Steel1943 (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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Reskin
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Own label
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Private label credit card
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Deryck C. 11:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Private label credit card → Private label (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Private_label_credit_card&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 17:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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Stencil brand
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 11:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Stencil brand → Store brand (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stencil_brand&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. In addition, third party search engines do not return any definite results for the definition of this redirect, nor does it make any connection to “store brand”. Steel1943 (talk) 17:51, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No indication of what 'Stencil brand' means in this instance. An 'own label' brand or a synonym for store brand? In any case it is not mentioned in the target article. Google returns virtually nothing bar someone's 'scrapbooking' pinterest page. Eagleash (talk) 12:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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List of store brands
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Vegetarian Festival
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Nine Emperor Gods Festival. Deryck C. 22:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Vegetarian Festival → List of vegetarian festivals (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vegetarian_Festival&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Suggest retargeting to Nine Emperor Gods Festival, with a hatnote to the list page. This was the original target before User:Huggi changed the target in 2015. I believe the Thai festival is the primary topic for the term, as evidenced by the sheer number of Google search results that are about it. Paul_012 (talk) 15:41, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, the Thai festival does seem to be the primary topic. A hatnote to the list should of course be added to the target section. Thryduulf (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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Birmingham Legion FC
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 * The result of the discussion was restore article  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 04:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Birmingham Legion FC → USL Championship (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Birmingham_Legion_FC&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Professional soccer team is building roster and competing in new 2019 season. Needs redirect removing so their page can be built. deathgripz 15:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 17:30, 16 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Restore article currently in the redirect's edit history and go from there. The team is now established, so there shouldn't be any reason for this team not to have an article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore Not only was this a break in precedent, it was done without any sort of discussion at AfD. There was, and is, no consensus to redirect these and this should be restored in order to address it properly. The same should apply to all of the other USL Championship expansion teams this year i.e. Austin Bold FC, El Paso Locomotive FC, Hartford Athletic, Loudoun United FC, Memphis 901 FC, and New Mexico United, all of which were redirected without an AfD of any sort. Jay eyem (talk) 15:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore as above. GiantSnowman 11:38, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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Seth Cummings
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Marie Marthe Augustine Mesange Lemaitre Brémont
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . This one is a difficult call, but taking this discussion and the discussion below about another French supercentenarian together, I think there's a rough consensus supporting deletion. Against some dissent, the general sentiment is that the combination of (1) a misspelling in the name and (2) these permutations of names being uncommon (particularly the use of a husband's name for a married woman who generally prefers to use her maiden name) pushes these over the edge. Deryck C. 14:13, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Marie Marthe Augustine Mesange Lemaitre Brémont">Marie Marthe Augustine Mesange Lemaitre Brémont → List of French supercentenarians (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Marthe_Augustine_Mesange_Lemaitre_Br%C3%A9mont&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Marie Marthe Augustine Mesange Lemaitre Bremont → List of French supercentenarians (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Marthe_Augustine_Mesange_Lemaitre_Bremont&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term for — JFG talk 11:22, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is her full name, I cannot think of any reason why that would not be a plausible search term. Redirects from people's full names are as plausible as you can get. Thryduulf (talk) 12:17, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Contrary to Spain and Portugal, France does not traditionally use full baptism names or maiden names to refer to people. The intermediate names are not even spelled right, and one of them belonged to her first husband (Lemaître). You'd be hard pressed to find any mention of this person using the full full full name outside of Wikipedia. In fact, the only one I found is her "find a grave" entry; whoever wrote that probably decided it was cool to smash together her three Christian names, her maiden name and the names of her two husbands into the longest possible name they could conjure up. Not worth keeping. — JFG talk 11:53, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete This search term indeed seems quite unlikely to be used and there is no need to spam redirect possibilities. A simple Marie Brémont is perfect for this encyclopedias search needs, not a proliferation of possibilities. Newshunter12 (talk) 04:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Newshunter. Catrìona (talk) 03:55, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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Camille Louiseau Chadal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . (See combined closing rationale in section above.) Deryck C. 14:13, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Camille Louiseau Chadal → List of French supercentenarians (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camille_Louiseau_Chadal&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Duplicate of and , but with a misspelling, making this an unlikely search term and a possible source of confusion among search box results. — JFG talk 10:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Seems a plausible misspelling for English speakers to me and even if people do select this rather than the correctly spelled redirect it will take them to the article they were looking for, with the correct spelling, so there will be no harm done. Thryduulf (talk) 12:20, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. I see this has been deleted by with the deletion summary of "misspelling". That is not a valid CSD criterion since this is not a recent creation, so I have left him a note to restore it. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no reason to keep this redirect, as it is a misspelling of the name of a person of minor notability. Few people are likely to even use a proper redirect and Wikipedia does not need to create countless misspelled redirects on every single topic for people too sloppy to use an accurate search term. Newshunter12 (talk) 04:53, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

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FYROM - Denar
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Scamway
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 25%23Scamway

List of retailers' cooperatives.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:56, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * List of retailers' cooperatives. → List of retailers' cooperatives (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_retailers%27_cooperatives.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo due to period at the end. Steel1943 (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely typo. Catrìona (talk) 03:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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