Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 26

November 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 26, 2018.

@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA
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Gervais School District
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural keep  . Creation of article, list, or disambiguation page at this title is encouraged. Deryck C. 11:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Gervais School District → Gervais High School (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gervais_School_District&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is somewhat misleading, as Gervais High School is not the only school in the Gervais School District. Beyond this, I would like to eventually complete the pages of Gervais School District, the associated Elementary School, and Middle School. Additionally for discussion: if a Gervais School District entry is to be written and the redirect is kept, would it be acceptable to overwrite the redirect with new content? d ross  (c ·  @ ) 22:05, 19 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Indeed we would encourage you to overright the redirect with a new article straight away. But until you are ready to do that, would you prefer to keep or delete the redirect in the meantime?
 * Overwriting redirects with content is not only possibly it is encouraged. I think in this case a stub article that said Gervais School District is a school district in city and/or county, state, along with a list of schools the district and anything else encyclopaedic you can find in a few minutes searching would be the best bet here. Thryduulf (talk) 00:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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VTGR
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * VTGR → Very-high-temperature reactor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=VTGR&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

VTGR is no longer used in Very-high-temperature reactor and I can find no other target. There are no links to this redirect. Leschnei (talk) 16:10, 19 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. My research matches that of the nominator. Thryduulf (talk) 18:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. What is the point of redirects if they need to be backed by internal use ?  VTGR were Soviet high-temperature gas-cooled reactors.  Until someone write an article about them it is good that VTGR redirects to their generic parent.  It would be better to add a word about them in the article, but I don't know where.  Skippy le Grand Gourou (talk) 19:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The point is that someone who does not know what VTGR means will just be left confused by this redirect. We don't have any information about the topic at present and we shouldn't imply we do. Thryduulf (talk) 20:36, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep and mention in the article.  DGG ( talk ) 00:35, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete until this gets a mention somewhere. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:09, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Since this is not mentioned in target, the redirect is essentially a made-up acronym. Steel1943  (talk) 19:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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The Simulation
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus/moot  . There is no consensus to delete the redirect, and now the redirect has been replaced with a stub/start article. At this point, I also do not see another relist further clarifying consensus. If the community believes that the current content at The Simulation should be moved to The Simulation (album), please start a move request on Talk:The Simulation. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 01:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The Simulation → Simulation (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Simulation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"The Simulation" should redirect to Born of Osiris, as there is no other article with this name, and The Prodigy has its own article. Jax 0677 (talk) 14:11, 19 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. My research finds that, if anything, Simulation hypothesis is the primary topic but this is mixed in with sufficient variety of other uses that the very generic phrase is best targetted at the dab. Thryduulf (talk) 18:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. I retargeted this and I find adding "The" is just too generic to distinguish it from other uses.  Ss  112   01:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 *  Comment - To closing administrator, I think that more discussion is needed on this prior to a verdict. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

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 *  Comment - The Offspring have their band article at a page with no disambiguation, with "For other uses, see Offspring (disambiguation)". Why would this be an exception? --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Because it's a yet to be notable 2019 album and because it's a redirect? It could be reconsidered if it were a detailed article and would claim primary topic, but that is not the case here. It would have to be as notable as the band who released the album.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:26, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't see an unreleased album as being the primary topic here; redirecting to a DAB page is correct. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:08, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 *  Comment -, , I just started the article for the album. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine to have the article at The Simulation (which would entail a procedural close; a WP:RM would be the correct forum if people disagree). power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 *  Comment - To closing administrator, please relist or close as "Create Article". --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
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Last thoracic nerve
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Seth Cummings
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Robert Rinder. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 09:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Seth Cummings → Robert Rinder (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seth_Cummings&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Spouse of a notable person. No notability themselves, and I do not think we should make redirects for family members without some indication of a significant tole.  DGG ( talk ) 09:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Refine' to Robert Rinder where they are mentioned. Redirects from non-notable spouses are very common and, unless there are disambiguation issues, useful and harmless. Thryduulf (talk) 16:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Redirect to Robert Rinder per . Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me &#124; Contributions). This message was left at 03:04, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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My Fair Lady (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:51, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="My Fair Lady (upcoming film)">My Fair Lady (upcoming film) → My Fair Lady (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_Fair_Lady_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This film was apparently thought of in the early 2000s, but never came to be. For this reason, "upcoming" is probably inaccurate since there do not seem to be any plans to finish or release this project. Steel1943 (talk) 21:52, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- wooden  superman  08:56, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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"(upcoming film)" disambiguators that have been released
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:51, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pilgrimage (upcoming film)">Pilgrimage (upcoming film) → Pilgrimage (2017 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pilgrimage_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Suspiria (upcoming film)">Suspiria (upcoming film) → Suspiria (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suspiria_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Benji (Upcoming film)">Benji (Upcoming film) → Benji (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benji_(Upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mother (upcoming film)">Mother (upcoming film) → Mother! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mother_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ophelia (upcoming film)">Ophelia (upcoming film) → Ophelia (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ophelia_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Cinderella (upcoming film)">Cinderella (upcoming film) → Ratsasan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinderella_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Minmini (upcoming film)">Minmini (upcoming film) → Ratsasan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minmini_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Widows (upcoming film)">Widows (upcoming film) → Widows (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Widows_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="A Wrinkle in Time (upcoming film)">A Wrinkle in Time (upcoming film) → A Wrinkle in Time (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A_Wrinkle_in_Time_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Roma (upcoming film)">Roma (upcoming film) → Roma (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roma_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The films have been released and are thus no longer "upcoming". Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget Cinderella (upcoming film) to Cinderella (disambiguation) as there is no List of Cinderella films, only stuff like Category:Films based on Charles Perrault's Cinderella and who knows when they'll make yet another one.  The others can be deleted, and will not be missed.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:46, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom and Angus. No strong feelings about Cinderella. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Retargeting the Cinderella redirect is particularly misleading because Cinderella (disambiguation) includes no upcoming films. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:23, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom/above.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all including Cinderella, per nom. -- wooden  superman  08:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all All released, can be recreated if a film with the same title is made. Vmars22 (talk) 17:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled Boba Fett Anthology film
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Untitled Gorillaz project
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:51, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled Gorillaz project → Gorillaz (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Gorillaz_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure about this one. The redirect is an R with history referencing a film that Gorrilaz was attempting to create around the 2007–08 timeframe. Per the article, it seems the band lost interest multiple times in finishing this film project, and it never got completed. In other words, the redirect is confusing, and I’m not sure if the history is worth saving. Steel1943 (talk) 20:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not worth saving if it never even got to WP:NFF AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled Intro
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Autograf
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Untitled Orion (ENT)
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"Untitled" that now has a title
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled 50 Cent → Curtis (50 Cent album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_50_Cent&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Adventure Time miniseries → Elements (miniseries) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Adventure_Time_miniseries&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Untitled Adventure Time miniseries (2017)">Untitled Adventure Time miniseries (2017) → Elements (miniseries) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Adventure_Time_miniseries_(2017)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Untitled Alfonso Cuaron/Mexico City project">Untitled Alfonso Cuaron/Mexico City project → Roma (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Alfonso_Cuaron/Mexico_City_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Bourne 5 → Jason Bourne (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Bourne_5&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Bourne sequel → Jason Bourne (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Bourne_sequel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Bumblebee film → Bumblebee (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Bumblebee_film&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Untitled Fred Armisen/Maya Rudolph comedy series">Untitled Fred Armisen/Maya Rudolph comedy series → Forever (2018 TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Fred_Armisen/Maya_Rudolph_comedy_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Halloween film → Halloween (2018 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Halloween_film&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Han Solo Star Wars Story → Solo: A Star Wars Story (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Han_Solo_Star_Wars_Story&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Han Solo spin-off → Solo: A Star Wars Story (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Han_Solo_spin-off&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Im Kwon-taek project → Cloud, Encore (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Im_Kwon-taek_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Imtiaz Ali project → Jab Harry Met Sejal (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Imtiaz_Ali_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Irish talent show → Ireland's Got Talent (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Irish_talent_show&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Jason Bourne sequel → Jason Bourne (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Jason_Bourne_sequel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Jr Ntr-Koratala Siva Project → Janatha Garage (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Jr_Ntr-Koratala_Siva_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Kanye West album → Ye (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Kanye_West_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Sanjay Dutt biopic → Sanju (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Sanjay_Dutt_biopic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Super Smash Bros. Sequel → Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Super_Smash_Bros._Sequel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Has a title now. Steel1943 (talk) 20:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete since this was a temporary redirect before the film received a title. It has no present or future value. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 20:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: The aforementioned comment refers to Untitled Han Solo spin-off. Steel1943  (talk) 20:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all since these were temporary redirects that are no longer necessary now that there is a title for the topic. No present or future value. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 21:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per above. These were temporary redirects that aren't needed anymore.-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)  23:42, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all as housekeeping. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled Sia Documentary Project
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete  per author request below.  Hut 8.5  21:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled Sia Documentary Project → Sia (musician) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Sia_Documentary_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article does name a few documentaries which the subject of the article had a part in creating, but all of them seem to have titles. Steel1943 (talk) 20:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I created this redirect. Feel free to delete. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:32, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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Untitled Tape 3
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Digimon Around
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Untitled The Flash film
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Untitled The Departed sequel
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Kishmish
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Clusters (vine)
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Draksha
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Agricultural byproduct
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Agricultural byproduct → Straw (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agricultural_byproduct&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article reads that the subject is an agricultural byproduct, not that it's the only one. Steel1943 (talk) 18:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I feel like we really ought to have a list of by products and/or an article that discusses various agricultural byproducts, but despite significant searching I just can't find anything that would be a suitable target. Thryduulf (talk) 23:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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Curment
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Bianca Curmenț. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 05:06, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Curment → Current (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Curment&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely misspelling. Steel1943 (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak retarget to Bianca Curmenț. It could be a R to diacritics/R avoided double redirect of the proper R from surname, Curmenț. Or delete if others feel that's a bridge too far. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget per 59.149. Thryduulf (talk) 23:08, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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Metallic currency
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Coins and Coin Collecting
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A Store
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * A Store → Store (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A_Store&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term due to the use of the combination of the word "A" and the "S" in "Store" while not representing a capitalized name. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There appears to be no specific notable person, place or thing that prominently uses this as an exact title. Thryduulf (talk) 23:13, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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Stored
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 * The result of the discussion was convert to Wiktionary soft redirect  . Deryck C. 12:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Stored → Storage (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stored&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect does not represent its target. Either retarget to Wiktionary or delete. Steel1943 (talk) 17:31, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wiktionary as page view stats show that this has usage. feminist (talk) 09:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Storage room
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 05:06, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Storage room → Storage (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Storage_room&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The phrase "storage room" is not an ambiguous phrase that could describe each individual subject on the target disambiguation page Storage. However, I’m also not seeing a clear retargeting option for this redirect either. Steel1943 (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment storeroom and store room both point to utility room. Not perfect (e.g. office buildings have storage rooms too), but maybe better than nothing. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 08:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep this really should be a separate article. Without one, I don't see a better redirect target than "storage". power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 20:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep definitely ambiguous between Utility room, Self storage and Closet at least. Thryduulf (talk) 23:23, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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Don Luther
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Simon Dumenco
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:34, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Simon Dumenco → Advertising Age (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Dumenco&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Previously deleted as nn, does not appear in target article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:00, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above/ Eddie891 Talk Work 16:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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Gorani (Language)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . I was tempted to call this a WP:Trainwreck but figured that the comments here would support deletion in both cases, albeit for different reasons. There is consensus that "Gorani (Language)" with a capital L doesn't serve any useful disambiguation purpose because we also have Gorani (language). There is some disagreement over whether "Gorani language (Gorani)" is useful, but on balance the arguments seem to point towards a conclusion that the bracket ought to same something that isn't "Gorani" or "language" to be useful, so this redirect can be deleted. Deryck C. 11:56, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Gorani (Language)">Gorani (Language) → Gorani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gorani_(Language)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Gorani language (Gorani)">Gorani language (Gorani) → Gorani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gorani_language_(Gorani)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not useful: miscapitalisations are fine, but not when they appear inside the disambiguator (note that Gorani (language) already exists). The second redirect uses an implausible disambiguator that doesn't disambiguate at all. – Uanfala (talk) 16:33, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. The mis-capitalized disambiguator is implausible, and the search bar will recommend Gorani language if anyone starts typing it, anyway. Cnilep (talk) 04:55, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep one. I edited redirects.
 * Gorani language (Gorani) → Gora dialect .... there is a similar redirect Gorani language (Zaza-Gorani) → Gorani language
 * Gorani (language) → Gorani language .... there is a similar redirect Gorani (dialect) → Gora dialect


 * Delete only redirect Gorani (Language) --SrpskiAnonimac (talk) 14:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * , I'm not sure I see your point about Gorani language (Gorani): the disambiguator in the parentheses simply repeats the language/ethnicity name and it doesn't help in disambiguating between the two. If we are to model a redirect after Gorani language (Zaza-Gorani), then it will have to be something like Gorani language (Slavic), as "Zaza-Gorani" is the name of the higher-order language group (though that's not really a good disambiguator as it's too narrow and virtually unknown; a general, more widely recognisable name like "Iranian" would have been better). – Uanfala (talk) 16:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

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The hole (football)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  following the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 120. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:50, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="The hole (football)">The hole (football) → Forward (association football) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_hole_(football)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="The hole (soccer)">The hole (soccer) → Forward (association football) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_hole_(soccer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Hole (football)">Hole (football) → Playmaker (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hole_(football)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Hole (soccer)">Hole (soccer) → Playmaker (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hole_(soccer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Hole (association football)">Hole (association football) → Playmaker (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hole_(association_football)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I would suggest that, at a minimum, these should point to the same place. Editors at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 120 suggested deleting Hole (association football), since it's not obvious where the redirect should point. Cnilep (talk) 02:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Processing (language)
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AYX (language)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="AYX (language)">AYX (language) → Nung language (Sino-Tibetan) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AYX_(language)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No connection to the target (the ISO 639 code ayx was retired in 2011). – Uanfala (talk) 23:22, 17 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. The former ISO code is a very clear connection in my book. Thryduulf (talk) 19:40, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete, there are no languages named "AYX". -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:40, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment if kept, should be mentioned in the article so it can be added as a dab to AYX (disambiguation). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:35, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Until a competing topic arises, a former ISO 639 code is a valid primary topic. I note from the SIL database entry that AYX was merged into NUN as a duplicate, meaning that these referred to the same language. Deryck C. 12:44, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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"""
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to String literal. This discussion raised an interesting question: Do we think our readers want to search about three quotation marks, or about a single quotation mark by wrapping it in an open and close quotation mark pair? The rough consensus seems to be that the three quotation mark interpretation is more plausible, and 59.149 raised a good point that this is a search one can do on Wikipedia but not most search engines (which will parse this as a bunch of search modifiers). Deryck C. 12:48, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * """ → Quotation mark (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%22%22%22&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure that this title with three consecutive quotation marks (or, possibly, a quotation mark inside quotation marks) is useful. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:40, 17 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Triple quotation marks are apparently used in Python (the usage is described in Python (programming language) and there are some examples at Here document), but I don't know there isn't something similar in other languages, and I'm not completely sure this is the kind of thing we would want to have redirects for. – Uanfala (talk) 19:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. FWIW, this and some related articles were previously declined at AfC. The page was created by the blocked User:Xayahrainie43. It seems impractical and unnecessary to create articles for every possible character and operator, quoted or escaped in multiple ways. They seem unlikely to be searched for. —&#91;   Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 05:04, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to String literal, which discusses the general reason why one might put three quotation marks in a row in various programming/scripting languages (there's other uses besides Python, e.g. Batch file.) Also, perhaps a bit of a WP:IAR opinion: I personally think it's useful for Wikipedia to provide results for these kinds of un-Googleable search terms. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 06:29, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget per 59.149 as the solution that is most helpful to our readers. Thryduulf (talk) 15:39, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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Untitled Shadows Project
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  as redirects. Since  wants the history of Untitled Shadows Project, I am moving it without redirect to Draft:Shadows (2019 film). -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:17, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Untitled Shadows Project → DreamWorks Animation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Shadows_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled shadows project → DreamWorks Animation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_shadows_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear what these redirects refer to. However, Untitled Shadows Project is a R with history. Steel1943 (talk) 18:44, 16 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete we don't seem to have any content about anything relevant. Thryduulf (talk) 16:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Could this be restored to Shadows (2019 film)? There's been news coverage of the targeted release, but not much else. Alternatively, retarget to Edgar Wright, or draftify and wait for more coverage. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:49, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * FWIW, out of all of these options, I oppose "retarget to Edgar Wright" since the titles are somewhat vague, and target here without context or a more precise name than "shadows" could be seen as a WP:SURPRISE. Steel1943  (talk) 22:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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List of store brands
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Own label
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Reskin
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Reskin → Rebadging (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reskin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:07, 16 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Skin (computing) where the term in mentioned and add a hatnote there to Barbara Reskin. Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm also happy with Shhnotsoloud's suggested disambig. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. I've put a draft under the redirect notice. We have more uses of "re-skin" in the (automobile) rebadging sense than in the computing sense. If this RfD is closed as disambiguate then also create Re-skin as a redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate as above. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:40, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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Average daily footfall
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to People counter. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Average daily footfall → Retail (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Average_daily_footfall&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to People counter where this usage of "Footfall" is explained. I'm about to create Footfall (disambiguation) (Footfall is a novel). Thryduulf (talk) 14:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Footfall" may be mentioned at Thryduulf's proposed retarget, but not "average daily footfall". -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:55, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Not in those exact words, but we need to credit our users with some intelligence and that includes understanding that "Footfall measures the number of people who enter a shop or business in a particular period of time." is relevant to "average daily footfall". The target is significantly more useful than a redlink. Thryduulf (talk) 10:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Someone searching "average daily footfall" is going to want information on that term, and the suggestion you provide is too broad for that purpose. I can envision several reasons for searching this term, even if the term itself seems intuitive. Is this an industry standard or well-used metric for measuring footfall? Perhaps someone wants to know how to calculate it. Does this metric use well-defined parameters, such as a set period of time to average from? (a month? a quarter? a year?) If not, then would averaging two days be okay, or does there have to be a minimum length of time? -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:23, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * So just because we don't have everything that someone might be looking for we should make it more difficult to find what we do have? That is completely contrary to the spirit of Wikipedia and actively harmful to readers. Any more information about footfall will be added there as well, so it is clearly the best target. Thryduulf (talk) 16:47, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have any information on "average daily footfall" so we should not be misleading readers with a redirect saying otherwise. It's really that simple. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Even though we already did for anyone with a modicum of intelligence I've gone ahead and made it explicit that footfall can be averaged over days. Thryduulf (talk) 15:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep and adjust the phrasing;  DGG ( talk ) 00:36, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to People counter as recommended above. The Retail article does not specify footfall so it would confuse the reader. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:43, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget People_counter where readers can find more relevant information. Deryck C. 12:32, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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Jailbreak (Roblox game)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Redirect has been restored. Sending the article to AFD. -- ferret (talk) 21:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Jailbreak (Roblox game)">Jailbreak (Roblox game) → Roblox (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jailbreak_(Roblox_game)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention in article Abote2 (talk) 10:44, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Despite not being mentioned in the target article, it is definately the suitible redirect point  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:43, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - There isn't a reason to redirect this to Roblox. It'd be like redirecting To The Moon to RPG Maker XP - while made with the program they aren't directly considered a feature of RPG Maker XP/Roblox. Piklies (talk) 13:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not a discussion to keep the article about Jailbreak, but to keep the redirect to Roblox, versus deleting the redirect outright. -- ferret (talk) 14:19, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep The Roblox article needs expansion on some of it's more popular games, and I'll take care of it shortly here. The game itself though is not independently notable. As much as I feel this game is non-notable, I feel sending a brand new redirect to RfD is a (unintentionally) underhanded way to delete the article history. -- ferret (talk) 14:12, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Mention has been added. -- ferret (talk) 14:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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Dragon Lineage
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Dragon Lineage → Ninja Gaiden (2004 video game) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Lineage&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An ambiguous phrase that isn't mentioned in the target. It doesn't look as though any content from the article that was at this location in 2006–07 was ever merged in the target, so there are no attribution-related concerns. None of the other articles that mention this phrase strikes me as a better target. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete, first thing that comes to mind is draconic lineages in Dungeons and Dragons. There are tons of other fantasy games that refer to dragon lineages too. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * In the WP:VGSE, the term seems exclusively to refer to the series's protagonist's lineage. There's some real world use of it, besides a number of other pop culture references. --Izno (talk) 23:01, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * We have an article about the real world usage in those Google News hits (Drukpa Lineage). It mentions dragons, though not the phrase "Dragon Lineage". ("Druk" apparently means "dragon"; see and Bhutan). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 10:58, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete as the term is not a common phrase in the game. Searches also point to the term in a different game called Realm Grinder. Then there's some album/single called The Dragon Lineage of Satan by some non-notable band named Pact. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:45, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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