Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 15

October 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 15, 2018.

Faan hap
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 23%23Faan hap

List of 8-bit computer hardware palettes
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Wrong venue. Per the instructions, please make a request at Requested moves/Technical requests. Thryduulf (talk) 19:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * List of 8-bit computer hardware palettes → List of 8-bit computer hardware graphics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_8-bit_computer_hardware_palettes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete so I can move the page. User456541 (talk) 17:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

List of Final Fantasy VII terms
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 25%23List of Final Fantasy VII terms

Chairman of Everything
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn by nom


 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
 * Rescinding the nom per comments below. Looks like a valid title. Gotitbro (talk) 22:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Chairman of Everything → Xi Jinping (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chairman_of_Everything&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Meaningless redirect under WP:NONSENSE. Gotitbro (talk) 14:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep its a nickname that's used in many independent reliable sources, e.g. New York Times (used as a reference in the article), The China Story (an Australian publication), The Japan Times, The Guardian (UK). Thryduulf (talk) 15:02, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep a doesn't fall under WP:NONSENSE. A reasonable person would have an idea of what such a redirect means. Redirects typically aren't able to be lorem ipsums.Gust Justice (talk) 20:35, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Avengers: Annihilation
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 23%23Avengers: Annihilation

Suburban Rail Link
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 23%23Suburban Rail Link

Kitab al-Fitan
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Write a draft or make an edit request  . Redirected is currently protected, so those are the proper ways to expand it. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:31, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Kindly remove redirect of Kitab al-Fitan to Naim ibn Hammad, since the former is locked by some admin and I wish to expand the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.59.178 (talk) 08:21, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Write a draft. This page was protected by Abecedare because of persistent sock puppetry. An article at this title was previously deleted because it did not demonstrate notability, so the best thing to do here is to start your article in draft space and then when it is ready submit for review, and when an experienced user is satisfied it meets the notability criteria it will be moved to mainspace over this redirect. See Articles for creation for details and assistance. Thryduulf (talk) 10:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

2017 Mexican earthquake
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget to 2017 Mexico earthquake.  B dash (talk) 06:25, 16 October 2018 (UTC)


 * 2017 Mexican earthquake → 2017 Chiapas earthquake (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_Mexican_earthquake&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambitious as there are more than one earthquake occur in Mexico during 2017 B dash (talk) 03:39, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * At the time of that redirect's creation, there was no Puebla earthquake. Just retarget the redirect to 2017 Mexico earthquake. Master of Time   ( talk ) 03:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget per Master of Time. Thryduulf (talk) 10:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

00000000
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:48, 23 October 2018 (UTC)


 * 00000000 → Permissive Action Link (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=00000000&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Very specific target for a rather vague redirect; there are probably other things this could refer to. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 03:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine or disambig The string of eight zeros is mentioned in the target article at Permissive Action Link - it is allegedly the current or former launch code for US intercontinental ballistic missiles. If there are other targets that this is a plausible search term for (a quick search didn't turn up anything likely) then it should be disambiguated, if not it should be refined to target the relevant section of the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 11:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete and show search results. First, the current target is not the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT by usage. The US nuclear arsenal is obviously important, but the exact string of digits they're rumoured to use as the launch code is trivia, and no one reasonably expects to be brought to the target by typing in this string of digits. Second, every other mention of this string of digits in Wikipedia is equally trivial: uses in file formats, communications protocols, etc. Starting a manual list of all such WP:DABMENTION uses will result in worse outcomes for readers than simply showing the search results. Search results which do not require any intervention by editors in order to remain perfectly up-to-date, whereas disambiguation pages do. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:13, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Or possibly computer number format may be closest to what people who type in this string of digits are actually expecting to find (similar targets like octet (computing) and byte don't actually mention "00000000", whereas computer number format does). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with 59.149 that "no one reasonably expects to be brought to the target by typing in this string of digits" – or at least that it's very unlikely that someone would. This on its own isn't necessarily a reason to delete this – if there was substantial encyclopaedic content in the target and nothing on any similarly-named thing in any other article it might not be a problem. But in this case the mention is brief, quite trivial and very easy to miss when scanning the relevant section, so it's easy to imagine someone being taken to that section and being left, following a skim-read of the prose, none the wiser as to why. I also agree that "every other mention of this string of digits in Wikipedia is equally trivial", and no other article that mentions the string strikes me as something that would need to be listed on a disambiguation page. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:43, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

IPhone 5G
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


 * IPhone 5G → IPhone 5 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IPhone_5G&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous as iPhone 4S is the 5th generation iPhone and there is no iPhone which supports 5G networking. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of iOS devices. iPhone numbering is confusing and this is not an implausible search term given other models released, so best to point it at the list rather than speculating about which model people are actually looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 14:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Search results were primarily about a hypothetical future iPhone, not a misnomer for the iPhone 5 or otherwise. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:28, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not an implausible search term, but unless there's a target that would explicitly clarify that no iPhones support 5G then I think this is potentially confusing, to the extent that it suggests that something by this name or something that could be referred to by this name exists, and so does more harm than good. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * delete pointless Hhkohh (talk) 13:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Carl Tristan Orense (talk) 13:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

IPhone 3
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of iOS devices. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


 * IPhone 3 → IPhone 3GS (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IPhone_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Kind of WP:XY as it could also be shorthand R from incorrect name for iPhone 3G as well as meaning third generation iPhone. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:09, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Perhaps change the redirect to List of iOS devices? --hydrox (talk) 07:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget per hydrox. A very likely search term that is potentially ambiguous should be disambiguated rather than deleted - in this case the list of devices does the job perfectly. Thryduulf (talk) 11:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, I believe the current target is more likely to be sought than any other target. iPhone numbering was far less confusing back then. There was only one model released at a time, meaning the iPhone 3GS was the third iPhone released, the third generation, and it even was released with iOS 3. It was also the predecessor to the iPhone 4, so it works backwards as well. Furthermore, the iPhone 3G is prominently linked in the first paragraph should a reader realize they actually want that one. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:46, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget either to List of iOS devices or a dab on iPhone 3G or 3GS per . Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me &#124; Contributions). This message was left at 03:44, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of iOS devices. Though it's true, as Tavix notes, that the 3GS was the third iPhone, I suspect no one but obsessives and those who've already read the article still know that in 2018. Google results also bear out the sense that this could refer equally to the 3G and the 3GS. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.