Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 26

October 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 26, 2018.

File:Wally.jpg
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Unopposed ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 01:02, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * [[File:Wally.jpg]] → File:My Life as a Smashed Burrito with Extra Hot Sauce (book cover).jpg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wally.jpg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect shadowing commons ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:31, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Saloon.jpg
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 01:02, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * [[File:Saloon.jpg]] → File:Saloon on the corner of Fresno.jpg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Saloon.jpg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect shadowing commons, No mainspace links? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Remove Redirect Why is this image being redirected to an image of something entirely different? It doesn't make sense to me, and probably not to other people either. --Atomicdragon136 (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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The Way (New Horizon)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 November 4%23The Way (New Horizon)

Template:London Heathrow Terminal 5 PRT RTD
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 00:57, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Template:London Heathrow Terminal 5 PRT RTD → Template:London Heathrow Terminal 5 PRT RDT (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:London_Heathrow_Terminal_5_PRT_RTD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Three views in the last year and clear typo of "RTD" which is not a common typo that is made and it is unused. Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is the remnant of a move to correct a typo in the title, which was done soon after creation. No foreseeable use for this redirect. – Uanfala (talk) 09:26, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Most templates have little use as search targets, and RDTs even more so. Thryduulf (talk) 13:16, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Local authorites in London
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 00:56, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Template:Local authorites in London → Template:Local authorities in London (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Local_authorites_in_London&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Obvious misspelling of "authorities" and it is not a common misspelling so I don't see the point of keeping this redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:10, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. While it's questionable whether we really need to have redirects for misspellings in the template namespace, this particular template was at this title for about nine months back in 2011. The template is transcluded, under this name, in old revisions of articles. If the redirect is deleted then the translcusions on these revisions would be broken. Is this a big deal? Well no, it's not a great loss if the navbox isn't displayed in the old revisions of a few articles, but then there's not that much to gain from deleting the redirect, is there? – Uanfala (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It is currently unused. Pkbwcgs (talk) 11:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. But I was referring to the readibility of old revisions of pages, not current versions. – Uanfala (talk) 11:06, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per Uanfala. Thryduulf (talk) 13:17, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uanfala. (I created the redirect.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 04:22, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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Template:List of Olympic and world records broken for swimming at the 2016 Summer Olympics
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Template:List of Olympic and world records broken for swimming at the 2016 Summer Olympics → Template:List of World and Olympic swimming records broken at the 2016 Summer Olympics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:List_of_Olympic_and_world_records_broken_for_swimming_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Three pageviews last year and it is unlikely that someone is going to search for this redirect and it is unused. Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:06, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Link module
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Template:Lm. --BDD (talk) 20:44, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Template:Link module → LM (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Link_module&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is a bit strange that a template is redirecting to a disambiguation page and it is unused. Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 *  Delete Retarget - I think the intended target was lm, but that's a link for MediaWiki so the name would be confusing. Primefac (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Amended. Fixed the intended target and forgot to update my !vote. Primefac (talk) 15:21, 28 October 2018 (UTC)


 * retarget It should be aredirect to lmd – BrandonXLF   (t@lk)  16:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * retarget per BrandonXLF. Thryduulf (talk) 13:17, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * retarget. as cleanup: seems left over after lm was temporarily but incorrectly used for modules. The template was fixed but this was missed, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates.-- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 14:20, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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Vengadam
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Vengadam → Tirupathi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vengadam&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The target is a DAB page, and Vengadam is not mentioned in any of the articles on it. Narky Blert (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: not mentioned in the target; all the mentions in other articles seem to be personal names or citations. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:28, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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Micic
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 * The result of the discussion was merge  Micić and Mićić to Micic. Add information to each section as needed. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 09:21, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Micic → Micić (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Since it need to be redirect both to Micić and Mićić, which is not possible, I propose to delete this redirect Smooth O (talk) 07:10, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not an expert on Slavic names, but if these are indeed two distinct surnames then disambiguation would be required for the diacritic-less term. Maybe include Frank Micic on the dab page as well. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:35, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Dabify per Xezbeth. JZCL 22:21, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambig per Xezbeth. Thryduulf (talk) 13:06, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Per Antidiskriminator below, I oppose merging. Just because two words are homographs when you remove diacritics does not mean that they are suitable candidates for merging. Thryduulf (talk) 09:34, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge. While I am sure there is enough difference between those names in Serbian, English speakers, who are our audience, have a hard time recognizing diacritics since they are rarely part of our language. Rather than having three separate pages for someone to have to thumb through to find someone with one of these names, I think it would be more convenient to have Micic be a page that encompasses all three names, which each in its own section to represent that they are separate in Serbian. I have drafted this below the redirect for your consideration. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:28, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge both to the version without diacritics as above. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:15, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge per Tavix (though if there were a good reason for the disambiguation page to be at one of the other titles that would also be fine by me). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:31, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Merging would not be a good idea. Micić is derived from female name Mica (shortened from Milica) while Mićić is derived from male name Mića (shortened from Miodrag). Without diacritics it is the same, but with it, completely different.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:16, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * If you could source that, it would be a good thing to add to the page(s), merged or not. In my opinion, it'd be an excellent way to start each section by giving the etymology of each name. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge for readers' convenience. While those are different surnames, dab pages are purely a navigation aid, and even Serbian readers often use diacritic-free search. The merged dab page is not too long, and splitting it into different forms would amount to hair-splitting (pun intended). Plus, there are two Americanized forms in there that would make hard cases. No such user (talk) 12:50, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge but keep separate sections for each form. I feel like the widespread removal of diacritics in English when writing out foreign names means that it would be better to have this on one page then three. Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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00s (century)
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The herb
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus , but retarget to Herb (disambiguation). This is a difficult close, because there's not consensus for any one course of action, but apparently no one wants the status quo. What is the most "minor" outcome, then? Certainly not deletion. Pointing to a disambiguation page wins out because this very discussion suggests ambiguity of the phrase. --BDD (talk) 20:28, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The herb → Herb (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_herb&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete? Disambiguate? Retarget? I think cannabis (drug) is the article most likely to satisfy somebody searching for the phrase the herb, but also there's the current target (herb without a definite article), cannabis and religion (I'd also associate the phrase "the herb" with Rastafarian usage of the plant), and as a redirect, the phrase was pointed at Cannabis for several years (the article on Cannabis (drug) is more relevant than the article on Cannabis as a genus). Plantdrew (talk) 03:41, 8 October 2018 (UTC) Plantdrew (talk) 03:41, 8 October 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Herb (disambiguation) per WP:ASTONISH. There is no primary topic for the herb, and certainly not one that is different from herb. Nowak Kowalski (talk) 04:54, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the disambiguation page per Nowak Kowalski. Thryduulf (talk) 12:07, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to cannabis (drug) per nom. I disagree that there's no primary topic for the phrase: I think when it's used on its own (i.e. not as part of a phrase like "the herb basil") it almost always refers to cannabis, whereas neither herbs generally or anything else else that's listed at the disambiguation page are known or frequently referred to as the herb. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:50, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. No mention at any suitable target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:03, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:31, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to cannabis (drug) per nom. Google "herb" and you get results for herbs in the general sense, as well as a few for cannabis. Google "the herb" and you get only results about cannabis, specifically recreational and pharmaceutical applications. We should direct readers to what they're most likely searching for, and for those who type "the herb" meaning something else (but what?) we can have a hatnote pointing to herb (disambiguation). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:29, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Though it should be noted here I'm using google.ca and my results may be skewed due to recent events. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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