Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 September 19

September 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 19, 2018.

Lareina Song
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Song Zu'er. Based off the time tags, this is what, after the relist, everyone wants. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 19:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Lareina Song → Novoland (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lareina_Song&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect doesn't appear to have a valid purpose. Lareina Song isn't mentioned in the article, and there is no indication that the real person who is the subject of Draft:Lareina Song is one of the authors. This redirect is in the way of accepting the draft. Recommend deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:29, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. The explanation for this required extremely trivial research - the very first google hit for "Lareina Song" notes that the actress is starring in an adaptation of one of the novels, Novoland: Eagle Flag, that is currently in production. All we have about the film at the moment is a brief entry in a table that doesn't mention any personnel so it's not at all helpful to redirect anybody's name there - even more so when we have articles about at least two films the draft claims she has appeared in (although she is not mentioned in either of those articles - something the reviewer should investigate). Thryduulf (talk) 10:30, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Song Zu'er per Arms & Hearts. Thryduulf (talk) 01:04, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak redirect to Divas Hit the Road as she is part of the divas ensemble cast for season 3. Novoland: Eagle Flag does not have an article, and Novoland is the fictional universe so that isn't helpful. Article should continue to be developed in Draft as Lareina Song / Song Zuer. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:14, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, now refers to the person's article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, as Draft:Lareina Song has been moved to Song Zu'er, which lists Lareina Song as an alternative name. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 20:30, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 23:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Public outcry
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 1%23Public outcry

Data diddling
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 1%23Data diddling

Mariam (actress)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 October 6%23Mariam (actress)

Animal protection
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . An article can always be started! ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 19:20, 1 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Animal protection → Animal ethics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Animal_protection&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Please delete, as the redirect term is not mentioned within the target. Neufund (talk) 19:18, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

(PS: I'm surprised we do not seem to have a regular article on animal protection per se here, do we?--Neufund (talk) 19:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC))
 * Retarget: there's Animal protectionism but that's describing something quite fringe. Animal rights would make a better target and I suggest a redirect there.  Lithopsian (talk) 19:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 *  Retarget or disambiguate. I was about to suggest Animal welfare as the target, but Animal rights, Animal rights movement and possibly Animal law, Animal cruelty, Animal shelter and/or Conservation biology would make good targets too. List of animal welfare organisations, List of animal rights advocates and List of animal rights groups would be useful see alsos, as might List of animal advocacy parties (several of whom have/had "Animal Protection" in their name). Thryduulf (talk) 19:57, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate I was thinking of Protected species so that would be another possibility. Also there are a number of Animal Protection Acts. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I've drafted a disambiguation page below the redirect. I'm unsure at present whether the Acts should be a strict list on this page or a separate list with broader scope of similar titles (e.g. Wildlife Protection Act, 1972)? Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wouldn't it be better to have a full article with that explicit lemma, comparable e. g. to the German equivalent Tierschutz?--Neufund (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * if you want to start an article that doesn't duplicate existing ones go ahead, but I think there will still be a need for a disambiguation page (just at Animal protection (disambiguation)) as well given the variety of targets identified above. Thryduulf (talk) 18:06, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * That was a mere proposal. I'm afraid I am not in a position to write a pertinent article myself, though.--Neufund (talk) 18:12, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.