Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 11

April 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 11, 2019.

Template:Cv
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Template:Cv

Template:Lepidoptera (butterflies and moths)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Template:Lepidoptera (butterflies and moths)

Portal:North American Roads
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:58, 19 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:North American Roads → Portal:U.S. roads (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:North_American_Roads&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

From a page move but misleading. There are also roads in Canada, Mexico and other places that form North America There is even Portal:Roads of Canada Legacypac (talk) 19:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete artifact of a failed portal merger. --Rschen7754 00:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unneeded redirect from portal move from 2007.  Dough   4872   02:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:29, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
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Portal:Guided Missiles of India
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  as a redirect so obviously wrong and created basically by accident that I belive deleting it qualifies as housekeeping. If I miss any of those subpages please let me know and I'll delete those as well. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:32, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:Guided Missiles of India → Portal:Right-wing populism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Guided_Missiles_of_India&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was from a weird move "remake portal". Serves no use whatsoever. Also the redirect has unused subpages that should be deleted. Legacypac (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC) Legacypac (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: useless and somewhat misleading; I don't see any reason to keep this. Geolodus (talk) 06:59, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
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Useras/Les Useres
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn  . by nominator. (non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Useras/Les Useres → Les Useres (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Useras/Les_Useres&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Les Useres/Useras → Les Useres (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Les_Useres/Useras&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete The forward slash (creating a subpage) is not how we normally account for alternate names. Unlikely search term. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep both. The forward slash does not create a sub-page in mainspace and Les Useres/Useras is exactly how it appears on this page and this page. Note also this edit summary : "moved page Useras to Useras/Les Useres over redirect: common and official name, as Sueras/Suera". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep both per RHaworth. Thryduulf (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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Nunquam
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Nunquam

Ghost (2011 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete  as housekeeping, leftover from a page move. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:08, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Ghost (2011 film) → Ghost (2012 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghost_(2011_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Film was not released until January 2012. PC78 (talk) 14:51, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as a misleading redirect. Geolodus (talk) 07:00, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
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Eurasian Economic UnionEAEU
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Eurasian Economic UnionEAEU

Template:Palace of Versailles
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:54, 19 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Palace of Versailles → Template:Versailles (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Palace_of_Versailles&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

redirects to Template:Versailles, which is actually about Versailles (band), a Japanese visual kei metal band. Note that this redirect was created by the now topic-banned portalspammer @The Transhumanist as the basis of Portal:Palace of Versailles. The portal is being discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Palace of Versailles, where I have explained the sequence of edits and their impact. In summary, this is one of the steps which led to a portal supposedly about the French palace to be filed with content about a Japanese band. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The template is not about the palace. I think the creation of the portal is not really very relevant to the redirect though (if the redirect is deleted but the portal kept then the portal will need editing, but that's not a reason to keep or delete the redirect). Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Whether the original template is appropriate, since it could be assumed to be about the palace, is not the issue, but this redirect confuses things. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Repurpose. It seems to me that there may be a case for a navbox relating to the Palace of Versailles, as there are articles for a number of the rooms, etc, etc.  See  for some of the articles that could be included.  -- wooden  superman  15:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment say what? (Commmenting on the template not the last comment.) Legacypac (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment the full set, over the period April '18 to Feb. '19, of this user's template redirect creations and template moves falls squarely into the "you'll spit out your coffee" category. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds like topic ban from template space is in order? His Outline project is no better. Legacypac (talk) 20:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Anyone can create a useful navbox at this title but the redirect is useless for that. This was used to build a portal by the guy who made the redorect with astonishing results Legacypac (talk) 11:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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PutItToThePeople
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Hashtag activism. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:03, 18 April 2019 (UTC)


 * PutItToThePeople → People's Vote (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PutItToThePeople&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Unlikely to be used without spacing B dash (talk) 06:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget This is an activism hashtag. I've created a new section Hashtag activism, I suggest redirecting it to there. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 14:17, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Retarget per The Vintage Feminist. Thryduulf (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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2013's Tropical Storm Yagi
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:02, 18 April 2019 (UTC)


 * 2013's Tropical Storm Yagi → 2013 Pacific typhoon season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%27s_Tropical_Storm_Yagi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 2012's Tropical Storm Wukong → 2012 Pacific typhoon season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2012%27s_Tropical_Storm_Wukong&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect. Not a formal written form for tropical cyclones. Tropical Storm Yagi (2013) and Tropical Storm Wukong (2012) already existed. B dash (talk) 03:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose (at least without a better reason to delete). At least one editor has used that form. If the redirects are deleted then any pages linking to them should be fixed (i.e. avoid them becoming redlinks). (Redirect creator) DexDor(talk) 05:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep these don't seem implausible as search terms. Thryduulf (talk) 12:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hamburder
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Hamburder

Mister Bone Saw
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Mohammad bin Salman. (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 06:03, 18 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Mister Bone Saw → Mohammad bin Salman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mister_Bone_Saw&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

deletion, this redirect implies offensive phrase about a living person Biographies of living persons Motqen (talk) 15:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep: The phrase "Mister Bone Saw" as applied to the article's subject is mentioned and explained in the article with appropriate citations, including one from the New York Times. Dylanexpert (talk) 16:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep a recognized nickname. He is a dictator so I'm not too concerned with the negative nature of the nickname. Legacypac (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Whether the target is a dictator or not is irrelevant. Every subject is entitled to equal treatment under NPOV and (where relevant) BLP. This nickname is ok as a redirect as it is established and verified, any other nicknames for them which are not established and verified would not be ok, regardless of our opinions about the subject as a person. Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Stop following me around and acting like a troll. Legacypac (talk) 05:45, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Please stop accusing those who disagree with you of being disruptive and similar. I did not follow you here (it's quite possible I've commented on more RfD discussions than any other user in the history of the project if you know how to calculate the statistic I'd like to know if my guess is correct ), and there is nothing inappropriate or even unusual in responding to another editor's comment in a deletion discussion noting that they've misinterpreted a policy/guideline/etc and explaining why. Thryduulf (talk) 10:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete The title contains an offensive phrase, uses non-neutral terms and violate the encyclopedic content of Wikipedia.(see WP:RNEUTRAL) Motqen (talk) 03:55, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Striking above vote by nom. We do not cast a duplicate vote when we nominate for deletion. Sam Sailor 07:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 *  Keep . Nickname is sourced in the target. Sam Sailor 07:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC) !vote changed to retarget to anchor, see below. Sam Sailor 07:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sam and Dylanexpert. WP:RNEUTRAL actually permits uses like this - "In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term." Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to section Mohammad bin Salman, where the term is mentioned. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That is an improvement, as long as the section title stays stable. Legacypac (talk) 05:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Retargeting is a a good idea. But instead of an R to section to Mohammad bin Salman, I would suggest we redirect as an R to anchor (and we could add an ), that is a more stable solution. I'm also open for placing the anchor directly above the sentence per WP:LINKPART. . Sam Sailor 07:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You lost me cause I don't know how to do that, but sounds good. Legacypac (talk) 07:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I would support a redirect to the appropriate sentence. Dylanexpert (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 02:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This term involves a false accusation of a crime. It has emerged in the opinion columns, as an opinion rather than fact, even before the defendants' identity is revealed. Jaseromer (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:54, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Retarget using anchor per User:Sam Sailor UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:26, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Why was this relisted? This looks like a pretty clear "keep" consensus to me. feminist (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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Lambda Omega sorority Norroena
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Lambda Omega sorority Norroena

Wikipedia:WEAK
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 19%23Wikipedia:WEAK