Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 2

April 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 2, 2019.

Success and Victory
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedurally closed. Redirect moved to userspace  so the rationale no longer applies. Thryduulf (talk) 21:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Success and Victory → ? (XXXTentacion album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Success_and_Victory&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "Success and Victory" on target page. Another rumoured track? Cannot find a suitable alternative target Richhoncho (talk) 19:23, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I believe this was the working title of this album, hence my creation of it. I've moved it into my userspace in case in applies to any future (posthumous) project. This can be procedurally closed.  Ss  112   19:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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Portal:The Republic of Macedonia
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:The Republic of Macedonia → Portal:North Macedonia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:The_Republic_of_Macedonia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently created redirect that does not match the country's name, instead using the widely disputed name. Redirects to portals are fairly useless at the best of times as they are not used for linking between articles like normal redirects. An Admin spent time categorizing this but it has little or no utility. Legacypac (talk) 18:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep matches the The Republic of Macedonia redirect in mainspace. As explained previously redirects to portals as a class are no more and no less useful than other redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 18:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Tracks the mainspace redirect. Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Portal:Organized Labour/July/30/Selected article
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per G6 by . Since the same should go for all dates, I deleted the rest of the dates. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:Organized Labour/July/30/Selected article → Jimmy Hoffa (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Organized_Labour/July/30/Selected_article&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer in use. Hasn't been edited in over ten years. Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 13:21, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Since it's a portal subpage that is no longer in use, it should be eligible for WP:G6. And that should be the same for the whole set, not just July 30. I see the portal is now using a randomizer in the selected article section. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:38, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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Comment Freely
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Freely → BitChute (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comment_Freely&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delete. The redirect was created solely as a means of promotionalism of a non-notable piece of software that has not yet been released. (I have also removed mention of it in the target article, since it was cited only to this ). -- Softlavender (talk) 10:10, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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Fallen (includes 'My Immortal' (Band Version))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Fallen (includes 'My Immortal' (Band Version)) → Fallen (Evanescence album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fallen_(includes_%27My_Immortal%27_(Band_Version))&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is an album ('Fallen') and a hidden track, available on later pressings, 'My Immortal' and, as such, is such a convoluted title it can no use to any searchers. Richhoncho (talk) 06:38, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete no one will type that and no one should link like that Legacypac (talk) 17:34, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Convoluted title and unlikely search term. PC78 (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Riot (DJs)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Riot (DJs)">Riot (DJs) → The Headbangers Ball (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riot_(DJs)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Riot (duo)">Riot (duo) → The Headbangers Ball (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riot_(duo)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Riot (musicians)">Riot (musicians) → The Headbangers Ball (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riot_(musicians)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These are all relatively the same redirect as RIOT (DJs), however according to this pageviews result, the all-caps redirect has more incoming hits than the other three, not counting the page hits on the target and a former target, Wake Up (Kayzo and RIOT song), the latter of which was redirected at AfD. Seems the all-caps redirect is the most sensible title in this case, though it should also be moved to the plain text title once the other three are deleted to preserve its edit history, as well as to reflect this consensus regarding mainspace titles. Jalen D. Folf  (talk)  04:56, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all, including RIOT (DJs). There is nowhere I can find that gives any meaningful information about RIOT. The current target has nothing more than a name drop on a song listing, but so does Kayzo, for example, so there is not a best target for these redirects. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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Self ruke
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Self ruke → Self-governance (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Self_ruke&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unhelpful typo. Barely any page views. Brycehughes (talk) 01:38, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete hihgly unlikely typo. Ruke and rule don’t sound similat nor are E and K close enough on a computer keyboard to even be plausibly misstyped.--64.229.166.98 (talk) 23:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Redirects are not for every random possible misspelling of a four-letter word. Softlavender (talk) 00:54, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * delete ruke it as useless Legacypac (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per R3 and what others have said. Geolodus (talk) 14:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Apparently not speediable as R3 only applies to recently created redirects, and this was created in 2006. Still not worth keeping. Geolodus (talk) 05:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
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Draughtsman
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 02:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Draughtsman → Drafter (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draughtsman&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I turned this page into a redirect in 2016, but that has just been reverted to a dab page. The dab created breaks multiple dab page rules: DICDEF and TWODABS; the first entry is not discussed in any article. The first blue link in that entry (drawing) explicitly refers to the second meaning only. There are multiple bluelinks in both entries contrary to MOS:DABENTRY, so if kept needs some cleanup. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 09:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment The other meaning is Drawer (artist), someone in who does drawing as artistic expression.  However, the technical drawer may still be the primary topic. Certes (talk) 11:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The issue I have here is not that the meaning does not exist. It is that the page you link explicitly states the term relates to the technical drawing meaning.  Wikipedia therefore does not presently have any coverage for the claimed meaning and a dab page is not appropriate under those circumstances. Note also that another editor made this a redirect back in 2012.  <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 12:26, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. Whatever the result of this discussion, the target or the DAB page should note that 'draughts man' is a piece in the game of draughts. 'Draughtsman' is a plausible misspelling.
 * It isn't in any WP article that I can find, but 'draughtsman' is also a British English term for someone who draughts (drafts) a legal document such as an Act of Parliament, a contract, or a patent specification. Examples can be found in British law reports. Narky Blert (talk) 09:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Draughtsman is a legitimate spelling for board game piece according to the OED. – Uanfala (talk) 14:13, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 12:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 10:50, 25 March 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Really wish I wasn't relisting this again, but this conversation didn't go much of anywhere. It touched briefly on important concepts and mentioned a few relevant pages, but one last chance at assessing this redirect seems worthwhile since there's some interest

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * disamb with all the meanings suggested. They are all actual meanings or plausible misspellings. DGG ( talk ) 11:38, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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Conduction block
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 10%23Conduction block

The Professionals (2011 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:15, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Professionals (2011 film)">The Professionals (2011 film) → The Thieves (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Professionals_(2011_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Alternate title for this Korean film, but not released until 2012. PC78 (talk) 17:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:21, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as misleading Legacypac (talk) 17:38, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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File:Randum Randum Anju.jpg
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 02:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * [[File:Randum Randum Anju.jpg]] → File:Mangamma Sapatham (1985).jpg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Randum_Randum_Anju.jpg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wrong name. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  04:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom. Apparently inaccurate name.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 02:27, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The redirect is a R from move and its title does not shadow an existing page on Wikimedia Commons. In addition, the target file was located at the title of the nominated redirect for 6 years. No rationale has been presented which qualifies this redirect for deletion per WP:FILEREDIRECT. Steel1943  (talk) 05:22, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 00:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Steel1943. Thryduulf (talk) 13:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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Industrial food
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 10%23Industrial food