Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 24

August 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 24, 2019.

Thunbergjugend
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 13:58, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Thunbergjugend → School strike for climate (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thunbergjugend&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Literally "(Greta) Thunberg's youths" in German (and likely a pejorative riff on "Hitlerjugend", I can't find any evidence of usage in reliable sources and would suggest deletion. Note that this redirect was also created on frWiki and svWiki and in both cases appears to have been deleted. signed,Rosguill talk 20:29, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete I agree; I too couldn't find a single source that mentioned it. Benny White (talk) 21:08, 24 August 2019
 * Delete It's an obscure word, apparently not in sources, not discussed with page regulars at Greta Thunberg or School strike for climate (including the redir creator and myself), and with the parallels to Hitler Youth probably pushes the bounds of WP:NPOVNAME and maybe BLP with which redirs must comply. FYI, the creator has also created another redir related to Thunberg which should probably also go. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:13, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I presume that you mean Make the World Greta Again? Geolodus (talk) 04:48, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the one NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:35, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have nominated it separately at Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 26. Geolodus (talk) 15:53, 26 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete, obviously: almost now usage whatsoever. Wikisaurus (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The word is used in discussion to determine the School strike for climate. The redirect was created for readers can find the article about School strike for climate. Раммон (talk) 06:21, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The word is used insult only, and isn't that common. The example given by the previous user translates into English as: so fact resistant can only be a member of the Thunbergjugend. Femke Nijsse (talk) 15:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete In Germany speedy deletion of de:Thunbergjugend. Seems to be a russian try to spread fake information; should sound similar to Wiking-Jugend or Hitlerjugend. --Jbergner (talk) 08:02, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * spammed yesterday the worldwide wikiworld with eo:Thunbergjugend, ca:Thunbergjugend, gl:Thunbergjugend, it:Thunbergjugend, oc:Thunbergjugend, vi:Thunbergjugend. on 27 Aug 2019 he added several wbsetaliases-add:1 to www.wikidata.org as in . How to stop this? --Jbergner (talk) 06:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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Bathons uprisal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 14:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Bathons uprisal → Bellum Batonianum (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bathons_uprisal&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ungrammatical form with multiple irregularities and almost no use history. It's not clear that Bato, (the name of two of the rebel leaders for which this conflict is named) is ever spelled "Bathon", and "uprisal" is a misspelling of "uprising". Actual English titles attested in the article include Batonian war and Bato uprising. I would suggest deleting this redirect and creating the other two. signed,Rosguill talk 20:18, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, as a recently created, malformed title with no significant incoming links. I went ahead and created Bato uprising, which is mentioned in the article's lead. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:26, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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Laura McAndrews
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Laura McAndrews → Storm Area 51, They Can't Stop All of Us (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laura_McAndrews&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, unnecessary redirect. This person is only known for being an Air Force spokeperson, who commented on the "Storm Area 51" event. Natg 19 (talk) 21:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: WP:INVOLVED relist to close old log day.
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Steel1943  (talk) 23:32, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 *  Keep - Keep per WP:CHEAP. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:19, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Textbook low-profile individual, i.e., "May have been interviewed by a major news source as a "mouthpiece" – i.e., as part of his/her job as a spokesperson for an employer, representing that party not him/herself... May have engaged in some major media/press activity or public speaking as a simple, non-self-promotional spokesperson employee for a company/organization." --BDD (talk) 21:24, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 20:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as WP:LOWPROFILE, unless she's the one presiding over the event. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:26, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. No other uses of the name on-wiki. NOTNEWS and LOWPROFILE don't really apply here, since the article is not about this person, she's just part of a larger, clearly notable event. While BLP does apply, the coverage here isn't negative and isn't anything that has not already appeared in mainstream media, so there's no reason to delete this on that basis. Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:16, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * LOWPROFILE may be chiefly concerned with whether or not a person should be the subject of a standalone article, but IMO that doesn't mean it has no relevance here. Principles like respecting people's privacy should still apply. --BDD (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - A spokesperson, by virtue of their work, can be expected to make statements about a variety of events or incidents. Unless he/she becomes strongly associated with a particular event, it is a disservice to the person and to our readers to redirect their name to a single event. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Canada Roads WikiProject/doc
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 14:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Canada Roads WikiProject/doc → Template:WikiProject Canada Roads/doc (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Canada_Roads_WikiProject/doc&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unneeded redirect to a documentation subpage. Magioladitis (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is technical cleanup, from my perspective. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:21, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:CPOP
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:CPOP → Template:WikiProject Chinese-language entertainment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:CPOP&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for a long time now. It does not follow the standard convention for redirects of Wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:CPGI
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:CPGI → Template:WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:CPGI&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for a long time now. It does not follow the standard convention for redirects of Wikiproject banners Magioladitis (talk) 19:37, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Blue Jackets
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:00, 1 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Blue Jackets → Template:WikiProject Ice Hockey (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Blue_Jackets&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for a long time now. It does not follow the standard convention for redirects of Wikiproject banners Magioladitis (talk) 19:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Bus&Econ
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Venu Isc
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Dūda
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 * The result of the discussion was article created  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Dūda">Dūda → Dūdas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=D%C5%ABda&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Originally nominated at AFD by USER:Turaids, with nom statement of:  OxonAlex    - talk  18:56, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * This is a misleading redirect, because dūda is a string instrument, whereas dūdas is a wind instrument. The thesaurus does say dūdas can also be plural for the name of the string instrument, but not that dūda can be the singular for the name of the wind instrument, because the name of the wind instrument is a plurale tantum. See also a a Latvian-English dictionary. Turaids (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Deleting it or writting a short stub on the string instrument with notes that this is not to be confused with that in both articles probably are best options. From history of dūdas it's obvious that this redirect was created due to user making error moving the original article in attempt to comply Wikipedia's naming guidelines and it then being corrected by me moving it back, not because anyone actually calls bagpipes dūda. <b style="color: #FFBA13">Xil</b> (talk) 19:31, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Can someone clarify what Dūda is then? We already have articles for Duda (Hungarian bagpipe) and Dūdas (Latvian brass/pipe instrument). Would be okay with stub article, but then we would need hatnotes to all the variants. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:54, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I did quick research - apparently it was a string instrument that hasn't really been preserved into modernity, but there are reputable 19th century descriptions, it's said to look simmilar to and often confused with bladder fiddle, but apparently it was less rigid and played differently <b style="color: #FFBA13">Xil</b> (talk) 08:26, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I have drafted a stub article on the subject. Geolodus (talk) 14:58, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy convert to article. The stub looks good. --BDD (talk) 14:00, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy convert to article. Add Dūda to the DAB page Duda (disambiguation), and add about hatnotes in Duda, Dūda and Dūdas to each other.
 * (Note. The Latvian DAB page lv:Dūda contains only two people and lv:Dūdas, which is InterWiki linked to bagpipes; no standalone article on either Latvian instrument.) Narky Blert (talk) 12:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Union of India
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Female child molesters
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Child sexual abuse. In other words, keep and refine. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Female child molesters → Child sexual abuse (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Female_child_molesters&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect does not target anything specifically about women offenders, defeating the point of the link. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 12:19, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep for now as the demographics section describes the proportion of offenders that are female. Unless there's a separate article? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep but change the redirect to Child sexual abuse. There's sufficient information in that section to justify the existence of the redirect. --John B123 (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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The Mack (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 22:06, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Mack (film)">The Mack (film) → The Mack (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Mack_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary disambiguation for a redirect. ___<em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA <em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk   12:17, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: Harmless and plausible. What reason is there to delete this? Geolodus (talk) 12:52, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep considering there is also a hatnote about The Mack (wrestler). Add the unnecessary disambiguation as a tag.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:57, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: I agree with Geolodus and AngusWOOF . JUN1U5 (talk) 20:03, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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House of Desmond
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 14:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * House of Desmond → Earl of Desmond (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=House_of_Desmond&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A family redirects to a noble title, which is already problematic; but worse, there was also a Kingdom of Desmond. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 12:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Kingdom Nation
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 15:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Kingdom Nation → Kingdom of Jesus Christ (church) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_Nation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the article. Googling the name tells me Kingdom Nation is the name for several different churches. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 07:13, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Now it is mentioned in the article, with references. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 07:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep --evrik (talk) 20:58, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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CONi3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  MBisanz  talk 18:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


 * CONi3 → Nickel(II) carbonate (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CONi3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

CONi3 was created by mistake: formula of Nickel(II) carbonate is CO3Ni. I have not found molecule in enWiki with formula CONi3. I propose to delete it. Gyimhu (talk) 04:20, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom Hughesdarren (talk) 04:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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C12H10O10S2
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  MBisanz  talk 18:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


 * C12H10O10S2 → Calcium dobesilate (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C12H10O10S2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

C12H10O10S2 was created by mistake: formula of Calcium dobesilate is C12H10CaO10S2. I have not found molecule in enWiki with formula C12H10O10S2. I propose to delete it. Gyimhu (talk) 03:04, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom Hughesdarren (talk) 04:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Transfan
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