Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 11

December 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 11, 2019.

Kh Capricorni
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:53, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Kh Capricorni → Chi Capricorni (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kh_Capricorni&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ph Capricorni → Phi Capricorni (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ph_Capricorni&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ps Capricorni → Psi Capricorni (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ps_Capricorni&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Proposed for deletion. Hundreds of these redirects were created years ago by a bot that rampaged away beyond all sense. Most have been removed, but a handful remain. The abbreviations are not valid and potentially refer to a different star from the redirect target. Lithopsian (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: these are extremely unlikely to actually be used. Loooke (talk) 16:00, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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JS Air
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:52, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * JS Air → Jahangir Siddiqui & Co. (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=JS_Air&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target section no longer exists and there is no mention of air-related activity. "JS Air" is possibly ambiguous with Air Koryo, North Korea's state-run airline, IATA code JS. I suggest delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:16, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
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Nexus 11
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete.  Creator request.  Hut 8.5  21:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Nexus 11 → Google Nexus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nexus_11&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A "Nexus 11" never existed, nor does there appear to be plans to create a device with such a name. — Searingjet (talk) 20:09, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
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Bullard community library
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:52, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Bullard community library → Bullard, Texas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bullard_community_library&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, making this a less than useful redirect. signed,Rosguill talk 19:22, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , This is fair, but it is also a genuine location associated with the town that I can see being searched for. Working in information on it will come in due time, I have it on my TODO list. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 19:39, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete until a notable separate article or section can be created. Please note there are other towns and cities named Bullard and those may have libraries, but it seems like the Texas one is the primary topic for that. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:04, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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RIAA afiliated music artists
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * RIAA afiliated music artists → Recording Industry Association of America (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RIAA_afiliated_music_artists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No corresponding section, and the title is misspelled. Nothing links here. Reyk YO!</b> 18:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete that's about as useful as a List of SAG-AFTRA people. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:07, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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Non-American
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Non-American → Alien (law) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Non-American&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Non-Australian → Alien (law) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Non-Australian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Non-Brit → Alien (law) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Non-Brit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Non-Canadian → Alien (law) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Non-Canadian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Although probably a good faith redirect, in practice, feels close to a borderline WP:G10, and I think fails #3 of WP:RFD. The article on Alien (law) is not specific to America (or any other country), so being a Non-American, does not make you an "Alien" in general law. Britishfinance (talk) 00:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note I've merged the discussions of Non-Australian, Non-Brit and Non-Canadian into this discussion. The nominator's rationale for all three was "Same issue as with Non-American". Thryduulf (talk) 15:55, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Would it make sense to retarget to the respective nationality law articles (e.g., British nationality law)? Note that the US has separate Citizenship of the United States and United States nationality law, though if we go this route, we should probably prefer the latter for consistency's sake. --BDD (talk) 17:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete Combative terms shouldn't be redirects. cave (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't think "non-Canadian", "non-American", etc. are "combative terms". "Un-Canadian" and "Un-American" seem to be the combative ones (e.g. House Un-American Activities Committee), whereas "non-Canadian", etc. seem to be merely factual descriptions (e.g. RBC is a Canadian bank, while Mizuho Bank is a non-Canadian bank). That said, Alien (law) apparently only covers actual living people, whereas "non-Canadian" could apply to businesses, non-profit organisations, etc., and I don't see any better target. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:29, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. It is not that the term is of itself combative, but when non-American is equated to being an Alien, I think it is more problematic. I am not American, but that does not make me an Alien in general law. thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 18:54, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per 59.149 above, and I agree I don't see these as "combative" terms - the usage Google finds is entirely descriptive, often in the context of cultural explainers (e.g. Brexit explained for those who aren't British). Using "non-Brit" to refer to anything other than a human would be odd (although having checked, it seems it is used for bands and music in the context of the Brit Awards, which is another strike against the current target), but that isn't true for the others. Ultimately it's just sum-of-parts meaning "person or thing who/that is not (national adjective)" and even when referring to people these are not necessarily aliens - for example this article is about a British man hosting a Thanksgiving party in London for his "fellow non-Americans" (almost all of whom are presumably British and therefore not legal aliens in London). The best you could do would be to retarget "non-American" to American (disambiguation) (and equivalents) as search results like 48 Non-American Shows You Should Definitely Watch On Netflix show it's not just related to nationality, however such a redirect would be unhelpful as it wouldn't give the searcher any information on who or what a "non-American" is or means. Thryduulf (talk) 14:38, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
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MICRO$OFT
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Satiric misspelling. --BDD (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="MICRO$OFT">MICRO$OFT → Criticism of Microsoft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MICRO$OFT&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deleteper WP:RCAPS; renominating nine years after the no-consensus mass nomination here. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:38, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. "MICROSOFT" itself is a clearly useful redirect given that the logo was in all caps from from 1975-1987, so it's entirely plausible for this pointed misspelling to be rendered in all-caps too. Looking at google, it's clear the mixed case Micro$oft form is predominant*, but as there is no way of making the search case sensitive and no alternative general purpose** search engine I know of offers this feature either it's not possible to say it never occurs. * One hit on the first three pages of results for a verbatim search excluding Wikipedia was in all caps, but that was as part of a sentence that was rendered in all caps for emphasis so offers no useful evidence either way. **It's not a term that is likely to appear in books, but google's ngram search doesn't recognise it as a valid search term anyway. The only case sensitive search engine I've ever found is designed only to find snippets of computer code and so has a very restricted corpus in which this search term is very unlikely to appear. . Thryduulf (talk) 20:04, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nominated redirect previously targeted Satiric misspelling. Steel1943  (talk) 05:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The current target contains nothing relevant to the redirect but a lowercase version of the redirect exists on the Satiric misspelling article so if it is kept it should be moved back there.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 05:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep It's a common alternative spelling, though I think the Rcats could be added per and others above. I see no reason for deletion; or,
 * Retarget back to Satiric misspelling with applicable Rcats (not sure which off-hand; misspelling, to section, to name two of them) --Doug Mehus T · C  16:55, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * retarget to Satiric misspelling since the term is mentioned there.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 00:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Satiric misspelling as actually listed there. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:05, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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Alkine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:45, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Alkine → Alkyne (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alkine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

According to Lexico, "alkine" is not a misspelling of "alkyne" at all, but a synonym for "alkamine", which is an entirely separate category of chemical compounds. Currently we have no article about alkamine. As such, the redirect is misdirecting anybody who is looking for information about the chemicals that are correctly called alkines. This is worse than there being no alkine entry at all. I've checked alkylamine, which Wiktionary points me to, but that seems to be different again, making me even more unsure what to do with this. — Smjg (talk) 12:13, 28 November 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Using nom's rationale, this redirect may lead to confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:49, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Dictionary.com gives this as an alternate form of alkyne. Lexico says alkine=alkamine = organic compound containing both an alcohol (—OH) and an amino (—NH ₂) functional group. This definition is more or less the same as Wikipedia's definition of Alkanolamine. I think disambiguate alkine and redirect alkamine. Also alkyl amine and alkylamines should go to the same place as each other. The Language Learner (talk) 09:50, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete not clear what this could redirect to? Alkane? Alkene? Alkyne? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:10, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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Holy Inquisition
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and retarget to Inquisition, respectively. I'm WP:INVOLVED, but we appear to be unanimous, we're past the full listing period, and this is the last open discussion on this day. Please contact me with any concerns. --BDD (talk) 22:00, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Holy Inquisition → Inquisition (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holy_Inquisition&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * The Holy Inquisition → Inquisition (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Holy_Inquisition&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term is not mentioned at all in the given target. Hildeoc (talk) 12:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment added to the nomination, since they should probably point to the same target. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:27, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * @59.149.124.29: Thanks a lot!--Hildeoc (talk) 15:11, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep the first and retarget the second; there's at least no need to have different targets. There are a decent number of uses of this phrase on Wikipedia. Some are specifically referring to the Spanish or Portuguese Inquisitions, but it makes sense to point to the broader concept here. --BDD (talk) 15:40, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep and retarget as above. Clearly a very common term. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:40, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Now done.--Hildeoc (talk) 15:08, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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Contact ~The force of the Sound Four~
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:44, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Contact ~The force of the Sound Four~">Contact ~The force of the Sound Four~ → List of Naruto episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Contact_~The_force_of_the_Sound_Four~&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Does not appear in the target list. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:08, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This was originally a translation of the episode 111 title of Naruto, however, the episode isn't individually notable and was replaced by an official English title "Sound vs. Leaf" AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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