Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 13

December 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 13, 2019.

AKC Groups
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25%23AKC Groups

Extreme Cake Makers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:45, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Extreme Cake Makers (UK TV series) → Channel 4 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extreme_Cake_Makers_(UK_TV_series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Extreme Cake Makers → Channel 4 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extreme_Cake_Makers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Non-notable TV series not mentioned in the target article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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Chinese spy
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Chinese intelligence activity abroad. I'm surprised that Chinese espionage doesn't yet exist. I'll create that one as well. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:50, 26 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Chinese spy → Chinese espionage in the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinese_spy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Chinese spies operate outside the US. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:02, 5 December 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Chinese intelligence activity abroad would appear to be a more globally relevant article, but I'm undecided currently if this is a useful search term for that. We do have Category:Chinese spies but we don't have a general prose article, and the only list is List of Chinese spy cases in the United States which suffers from the same issues as the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 12:15, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment the only other "Nationality spy" redirects that I can find are to KGB and  to Espionage. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:49, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * One possibility would be Ministry of State Security (China); that would parallel Soviet spy. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about espionage, but couldn't spies come from agencies besides primary intelligence agencies? A Chinese spy could be with a military intelligence outfit, for example, and Ministry of State Security (China) says it's concerned with non-military affairs. --BDD (talk) 15:50, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I think retargeting to Chinese intelligence activity abroad is the best option so far, with Category:Chinese spies as a second choice. signed,Rosguill talk 00:38, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Chinese intelligence activity abroad as primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:44, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Chinese intelligence activity abroad as no evidence has been provided that someone looking up chinese spy would be looking for espionage in the US specifically.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 05:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Blood Orange
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25%23Blood Orange

Little Princess (video game)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:48, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Little Princess (video game) → AliceSoft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Little_Princess_(video_game)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the targeted article, and even if it were, the redirect would meet WP:RFD crtieria 10 as "target article contains virtually no information on the subject" (only the name) Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:09, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as MOS:DABMENTION AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:50, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This has almost nothing to do with disambiguation. Glades12 (talk) 11:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , why? It's a disambiguated article title that should normally be listed in Little Princess (disambiguation). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:25, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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DK-King of Swing DS
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25%23DK-King of Swing DS

National Commission for Men
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Men's rights movement. signed,Rosguill talk 00:51, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * National Commission for Men → Deepika Narayan Bhardwaj (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Commission_for_Men&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This proposed commission is too broad other than Deepika Narayan Bharadwaj. It’s not related to one person but to group of people and targeted page is not only related with it.  Harshil want to talk? 14:21, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Men's rights movement where mentioned in the India Governmental structures section. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC) updated 17:28, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete to allow uninhibited search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:49, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * There aren't really any other movements with the title besides the India one. There is a National Coalition for Men but that's different enough. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Retarget to  mainly per AngusWOOF but there is no "India" section in that artcle. Yet, someone searching for this specific term is unlikely to be looking for anything else. As AngusWOOF says, the National Coalition for Men is too far away to be confused, as much as Families Need Fathers or indeed and, both R to Men's rights movement. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 00:36, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right, it's not in the India section, but it is still mentioned in the article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:28, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Xfd
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:24, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Xfd → Template:Db-xfd (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Xfd&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This title is far too broad to redirect to a speedy deletion template. I would like this to be repurposed somehow, but am fine with deletion as well. Glades12 (talk) 10:34, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Zero transclusions. I see no point in keeping this valuable three-letter redirect in the Template: that might reasonably be used to name a new template in the future. Delete for redlink, perhaps. Template editor may have a thought one way or another here. Pinging him for his perspective. --Doug Mehus  T · C  16:55, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * To be fair, CSD templates (and thus redirects to them) rarely have many transclusions at once. All pages where they are used will within a few hours (maybe longer in complex cases) either be deleted or have the template removed. Glades12 (talk) 06:11, 7 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment – template this redirects to has been G6'd for over a year now. UnnamedUser (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * that's because it's a speedy deletion template itself. They aren't candidates for the deletion they mention. We also don't need to add references to the documentation at Template:More citations needed! Glades12 (talk) 06:11, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment: I forgot to mention this in the nomination, but the creator Melsaran was later blocked for sockpuppetry. Glades12 (talk) 12:37, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep essentially per WP:CRYSTAL. Even I as an IP editor can just edit and repurpose the redirect, it does not require any special magic. Until a better use is actually found for it, it is harmless. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 00:44, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * But it does not predict the future, like the crystal ball may do. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 15:30, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 15:30, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There's high potential for error here. --BDD (talk) 22:30, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I think I've accidentally tagged talk pages with this when I was looking for old xfd. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:27, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
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Various settings in Pokémon
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 * The result of the discussion was mixed results  . There is a consensus to redirect to articles that mention the redirect titles. For redirects not mentioned at any article or  at articles related primarily to the Pokemon anime (as opposed to the Pokemon video games) there was no clear consensus. signed,Rosguill talk 01:00, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Guren Island → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Guren_Island&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cianwood City → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cianwood_City&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Cianwood City (Cianwood Island)">Cianwood City (Cianwood Island) → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cianwood_City_(Cianwood_Island)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cianwood Island → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cianwood_Island&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ecruteak → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ecruteak&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Goldenrod Radio Tower → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goldenrod_Radio_Tower&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ilex Forest → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ilex_Forest&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Grapefruit Islands → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grapefruit_Islands&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Foento City → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foento_City&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Fubata town → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fubata_town&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hakutai City → Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hakutai_City&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Several settings not mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget: The articles developed and changed since the 2000s (the notice on my talk page concerned a redirect from 2004). Some terms may be mentioned at Pokémon universe, others at the respective articles on specific video games.
 * For Kanto terms, check: Pokémon_Red_and_Blue
 * For Johto terms, check: Pokémon_Gold and Silver
 * For Sinnoh terms, I am not sure if Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Pokémon Platinum, and/or Pokémon universe are best.
 * Comment. The article on Diamond and Pearl should be the location. Platinum is just the upgraded version for Sinnoh, in a vain to Pokemon Yellow.
 * The Orange Islands are a setting in the Pokemon (anime) although I am not sure if the family of articles even mentions the redirect target
 * NOTE: "Guren Island" is the Japanese name of "Cinnabar Island" (I had to look that up as I had forgotten about that term)
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 00:25, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment #2 For terms not mentioned in the respective target articles, I started Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games. It means editors could include the terms in the sections to prevent deletions of the respective redirects. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the various locations presented by WhisperToMe, who has added the locations to the respective setting sections for each of the games. Utopes (talk) 04:20, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above and nom, but not having any Pokémon knowledge, I defer to the editors above and nom. Would prefer an Rcat "to section", preferably in a "shell," though., do you have prior Pokémon interest and/or knowledge? Doug Mehus T · C  17:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The first is mentioned at Pokémon Red and Blue, the next four at Pokémon Gold and Silver. The radio tower belongs to the second set of games, but is currently only mentioned at the anime Pokémon Generations. Ilex Forest is only mentioned at Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver and a couple of uses related to the manga Pokémon Adventures. Grapefruit Islands is mentioned at Snorlax and an anime episode list. "Foento City" and "Fubata town" do not appear anywhere. Hakutai City is mentioned at Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. --BDD (talk) 15:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hans Andersen (footballer)
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . Withdrawn with no remaining opposition. --BDD (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hans Andersen (footballer)">Hans Andersen (footballer) → Hans Andersen (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hans_Andersen_(footballer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect to a DAB page with no relevant entry. Delete to encourage article creation. Narky Blert (talk) 15:28, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Withdraw nomination now that valid redlinks have been added to the DAB page Narky Blert (talk) 15:55, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. Glades12 (talk) 16:13, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: now useful after the target was amended to include footballers. Glades12 (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. There's no entry on the page for a footballer. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:28, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Now Keep Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:36, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and MOS:DABMENTION AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:49, 14 December 2019 (UTC) updated 15:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. GiantSnowman 11:58, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per - I wonder if  might wish to reconsider? GiantSnowman 14:53, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Shhhnotsoloud may also want to. Glades12 (talk) 14:30, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep given that the entries which meet WP:DABRL should not have been removed from the disambiguation page so I restored them, and there's more than one potentially-notable footballer by this name so the existence of this redirect will prevent mislinks. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:22, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for re-adding - I will create these articles as both footballers are notable. GiantSnowman 14:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, withdrawing my concerns for now. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Chillstep
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Chillstep → Dubstep (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chillstep&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See also nomination of, below. Confusing, not at target (nor the word "chill" or similar). This is categorized as a, but without mention at the current target it is sill confusing. There are other redirects to this target which are not exactly mentioned but where similar terms are: but this one isn't even close. Delete. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 04:20, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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Housecore
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Phil Anselmo. --BDD (talk) 22:16, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Housecore → Dubstep (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Housecore&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See also nomination of, below. Confusing, not at target. We do have Housecore Records as a targeted R to, so we could retarget it there as. No incoming links, has had 20 hits this year. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 04:12, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Phil Anselmo as the only notable topic for now. There is also a Housecore Horror Film Festival, which, if notable, can make this a disambiguation with a Wiktionary definition.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:31, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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Vep
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget.  --BDD (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Vep → Evoked potential (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vep&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to the DAB page at VEP. The article does not use "Vep" or "vep" with lower case, so this is surprising.

The only candidate target (from those on the DAB) that uses lower case is Veps language, but I don't think it's a good candidate for a WP:DIFFCAPS. With I've nevertheless put that as the first sentence, not because of WP:DABPRIMARY but to separate the sole entry for "vep" from all the others for "VEP".

We already have targeted R to the same place. A targeted R from red to Ensembl_Genomes would be useful for the DAB entry if nothing else. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 02:58, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to VEP as Visual evoked potential is still an acronym VEP. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:28, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to VEP. I just added a couple items to that disambiguation page to which Vep could refer. - Eureka Lott 16:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to VEP as an alternate capitalization --DannyS712 (talk) 21:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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Inside of Every Demon is a Rainbow
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Inside of Every Demon is a Rainbow → Hazbin Hotel (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Inside_of_Every_Demon_is_a_Rainbow&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, I would suggest deletion unless a justification is provided. signed,Rosguill talk 00:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Not notable, and its not something someone would be searching for but intending to find Hazbin Hotel, so Im all for delete. PrimalBlueWolf (talk) 09:48, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. 180.183.71.245 (talk) 03:35, 13 December 2019 (UTC) LTA troll NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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5apu
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * 5apu → Airbus A340 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=5apu&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can't figure out how this redirect is related to the target. Delete unless a justification is provided. signed,Rosguill talk 00:48, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

The "5APU" is a humorous and satirical term to refer to the Airbus A340-200/300 series, since they have four CFM 56 engines to power the huge widebody airplane. However, these engines initially designed for A320 / B737 have relatively poor performance on powering the huge wide body airplane, almost as little as how much power an APU can provide. This is where the "5APU" saying comes from, quite common in Chinese-based aviation communities, and is also created as the redirection to A340 page on Chinese Wikipedia. --I am really greatful to people who helped me. Thank you, because you never have to choose to do so. 02:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) ytx21cn


 * Comment. The "APU" here is the aircraft's auxiliary power unit. is red. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 03:15, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete unlikely to be used as a search term in English. MilborneOne (talk) 08:11, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. It does seem to be a legitimate joke term: Google it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I looked at the search results more carefully and honestly agree with this assessment; Chinese language search results all seem to be using 5APU as described in the comment above. I am no longer in favor of deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 01:57, 14 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete could be any kind of part number. Not mentioned in the article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:05, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete The number of WP:RS explaining the origin of the name are rather limited; only one I could find is . More importantly, I don't see how content about this term could be added to the target in a manner that meets WP:WEIGHT. If such content gets added in the future, I would not object to creation of the properly-capitalised 5APU, but without an explanation of this term at the target, that redirect should not exist. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 14:59, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:RFD confusing, not at target. We can have, but that is not helpful. Redirects don't have to meet RS, but without any mention at all in the article (and the difficulty of adding one, RS or not) this leaps into the realm of WP:NOTDIC, particularly Wikipedia is not rhe Urban Dictionary. This is the English Wikipedia and the term does not sem to be widely used in the English language. There is a protein ligand (?) with this label but that's not notable: . Just one of many possible ligands that can be inserted into that protein chain. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 01:33, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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Catstep
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:01, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Catstep → Monstercat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Catstep&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not even mentioned at the target. Looks like a coined term that was only ever used on Spotify. Jalen Folf  (talk)  00:38, 13 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RFD, "novel or very obscure synonym ". Apparently a kind of  →  dubstep, but neither "filthstep" nor "catstep" are mentioned there. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 04:00, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, not mentioned and not specific to Monstercat. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:47, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak disambiguate (drafted below the redirect), or retarget to terracette which lists this as an alternative name and hatnote it for the other stuff listed on the draft. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:53, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making that draft. For the Silat dance, we might as well create Cat step as a targeted R to Silat, since that is a useful term as separate words. I did ponder whether CASTEP is close enough to be on any kind of DAB, but anyone who knows that suite of programs is unlikely to mistake it as Catstep, and we don't have Castep, so I decided against it. With that out of the way, and monstercat not even mentioning it (WP:DABMENTION), we'd be left with a WP:TWODABS. Gsearching "catstep geology" gives some useful RS that can be added to the terracette article, and also as cat-step. I hesitate to add the RS as links here, knowing how they muck up RfD, but your search is as good as mine. I'll add a couple to the article. 85.238.91.41 (talk) 01:47, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate Thanks, IP—this looks fine. --BDD (talk) 22:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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