Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 17

December 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 17, 2019.

Fathers of Confederation definition
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:18, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Fathers of Confederation definition → Canadian Confederation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fathers_of_Confederation_definition&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

At a minimum, this should be retargeted to the main article Fathers of Confederation. But it's also seriously worth considering deletion. In past discussions, we've disfavored most redirects with "definition" in the title or similar (ex. 1, ex. 2). We tend to make exceptions, or at least split more meaningfully, for topics where there's substantive discussion about definitions (ex.). While Fathers of Confederation does define the term and has a note about other individuals that may be considered such, I don't believe this merits this awkward, Google-style redirect. As I write this, I've settled on delete as a first choice, but wouldn't oppose a simple retarget if there isn't consensus to delete. --BDD (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – That is very awkward and the rationale to get rid of it is sound. Anyone hunting for "fathers of confederation" will be able to find that via autocomplete without needing the " definition" part tacked on. —Joeyconnick (talk) 20:20, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a search engine; the article says it all without the need to include "definition" while searching. ComplexRational (talk) 22:47, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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Collected Poems of Robert Frost (1930)
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . The article has been moved over the redirect. --BDD (talk) 15:09, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Collected Poems of Robert Frost (1930) → Collected Poems of Robert Frost (1940) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collected_Poems_of_Robert_Frost_(1930)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wrong year, presumably created in error. I nominated this for speedy deletion, not once but twice, but both were declined. ωικιωαrrιor ᑫᑫ1ᑫ 18:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The whole article says 1930. Can you provide sources that say 1940? Because right now I think the solution is a plate of trout and moving it back. Praxidicae (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at this, it looks like it was originally published in 1930. The first book on the list says it was the third edition published in 1940.  This should be moved back.  ~ GB fan 18:50, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete and move the article back to the original title without leaving a redirect. The book was published in 1930, it received a Pulitzer prize in 1931 so it could not be originally published in 1940.  see https://www.pulitzer.org/prize-winners-by-year/1931 ~ GB fan 01:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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Bacoon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:18, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Bacoon → Star Fox (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bacoon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fictional setting not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:31, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to Bacon. Not a very active user (talk) 07:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. enwiki has nothing about "Bacoon". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:50, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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Category talk:Transphobic Wikipedians
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per WP:G8. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:54, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Category talk:Transphobic Wikipedians → Category talk:Gender-critical Wikipedians (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Transphobic_Wikipedians&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion. Redirect is offensive/abusive and libellous. (If this is in the wrong section, please let me know) Yilangren (talk) 16:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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Naturon Demonto
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Naturon Demonto → Necronomicon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naturon_Demonto&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect term not mentioned in given target. Hildeoc (talk) 14:21, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a misspelled version of an an alternate name. In the Evil Dead franchise, the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis is also called the Naturom Demonto. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 17:39, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Jireh
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25%23Jireh

Nimraviscus
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Suitable evidence was provided that the redirect is appropriate. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 18:39, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Nimraviscus → Eofelis (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nimraviscus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. Per this less-than-reliable source, it would seem that maybe Nimravidae is a more appropriate target? signed,Rosguill talk 07:56, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Here in this book ("Classification of Mammals: Above the Species Level" By Malcolm C. McKenna, Susan K. Bell) on page 229, Nivraviscus [Kretzoi, 1945] is metioned as a synonym for genus Eofelis. The Explaner (talk) 10:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thank you, withdrawing this nomination. signed,Rosguill talk 18:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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Ictidailurus
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Suitable evidence was provided that the redirect is appropriate. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 18:39, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Ictidailurus → Nimravus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ictidailurus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, I couldn't verify in an internet search whether it has any relation to Nimravus. Delete unless a justification is provided. signed,Rosguill talk 07:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Here in this book ("Classification of Mammals: Above the Species Level" By Malcolm C. McKenna, Susan K. Bell) on page 229, Ictidailurus [Kretzoi, 1945] is metioned as a synonym for genus Nimravus. The Explaner (talk) 10:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, withdrawing the nomination. signed,Rosguill talk 18:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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Kostolac culture
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25%23Kostolac culture

Yemeni mafia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:23, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Yemeni mafia → Houthi movement (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yemeni_mafia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Obviously no one has called the Houthi movement the Yemeni mafia. SharabSalam (talk) 07:43, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing; this redirect may cause confusion with actual (or other, depending on your views) crime syndicates (which mafias are) in Yemen. Glades12 (talk) 17:35, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see any Yemeni entity listed at List of criminal enterprises, gangs, and syndicates, nor does the country have a subcat in . --BDD (talk) 20:20, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Wug·a·po·des​ 09:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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Hiroshi Suzuki (tarento)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Even if phrased as "weak", I think that the responses thus far suggest that this redirect could be useful. Withdrawing my nomination. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 17:17, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hiroshi Suzuki (tarento)">Hiroshi Suzuki (tarento) → Papaya Suzuki (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hiroshi_Suzuki_(tarento)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This doesn't seem like a useful disambiguator, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 07:33, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak keep given that tarento itself is an article and there's two articles (Miho Yoshioka (tarento), Chiaki (tarento)) and a few other redirects with the same disambiguator. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per above. There are few other redirects that use the same disambiguator and that tarento itself is already an article in its own right.  Hansen Sebastian Talk 15:20, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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