Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 23

December 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 23, 2019.

Hork
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 30%23Hork

Garment worker
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Clothing industry. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 00:56, 31 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Garment worker → Sewing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garment_worker&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems that this specific phrase could be considered vague since a Tailor also works with garments. Steel1943 (talk) 22:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. A dressmaker also works with garments. Narky Blert (talk) 13:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Clothing industry. Wikipedia is not good at fashion and apparel. Garment worker and textile worker should probably both be standalones, as Textile and clothing trade unions were important occupations in the history of organized labor. Jokestress (talk) 20:40, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Clothing industry. Changing !vote. Narky Blert (talk) 13:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
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Sewing and Tailoring
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Sewing and Tailoring → Sewing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sewing_and_Tailoring&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY: Sewing and Tailoring refer to two different subjects/articles. Steel1943 (talk) 22:32, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, WP:XY. Narky Blert (talk) 13:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XY. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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Furioso (horse)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 31%23Furioso (horse)

Forcible confinement
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Forcible confinement → Kidnapping (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Forcible_confinement&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term doesn't seem to be exclusive to its target. Probably best to delete it so that Wikipedia's search function can do its job to help readers locate the article they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Title not specific to target. Utopes (talk) 03:14, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to confinement as most confinement is forced and dabbing is a good option here. Happy Festivities! //  J 947  (c) 06:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Confinement is a dab page that holds other types of confinement not related to this term. StonyBrook (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Obscure term unlikely to be searched. StonyBrook (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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Forced imprisonment
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Forced imprisonment → Kidnapping (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Forced_imprisonment&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term doesn't seem to be exclusive to its target. Probably best to delete it so that Wikipedia's search function can do its job to help readers locate the article they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, term not specific to subject per nom. Utopes (talk) 03:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing. Could retarget to imprisonment as all imprisonment is forced, but I'd prefer deletion. Happy Festivities! //  J 947  (c) 06:06, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Term is as useless as Edible food. StonyBrook (talk) 21:45, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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Baby stealer
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Child abduction.  MBisanz  talk 13:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Baby stealer → Harpy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baby_stealer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect is not mentioned in the target article. Without reference, rather than the target, the redirect could refer to a kidnapper. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fair logic, confusing redirect. Utopes (talk) 03:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Child abduction. Narky Blert (talk) 13:14, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If it were Baby stealing, yes. StonyBrook (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Kidnapper. StonyBrook (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Did you mean Kidnapping? (Kidnapper is currently a disambiguation page; I found that out after I made this nomination.) Steel1943  (talk) 17:40, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * My thinking was Baby Stealer is a person so it should redirect to Kidnapper which is the closest similar person, plus the definition and link to Kidnapping is right there. On second thought this seems incorrect because we already have Baby snatcher which redirects to Child abduction even though the former is a person and the latter is a thing, so I realize that redirecting to a Dab page is incorrect even though it is more logical because it adds an additional step. And kidnapping is actually a slightly different matter. StonyBrook (talk) 01:15, 26 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Child abduction, similar to Baby snatcher. StonyBrook (talk) 01:15, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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Bomull
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Bomull → Cotton (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bomull&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:FORRED. The target has no affinity to the German, Swedish, or really any language. Steel1943 (talk) 21:16, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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2019 Bassetlaw by-election
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * 2019 Bassetlaw by-election → Bassetlaw (UK Parliament constituency) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_Bassetlaw_by-election&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There was no by-election at Bassetlaw because there was a general election in 2019 rather than a by-election so this redirect is misleading and should be deleted. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Agree This was a case of "belt and braces" to avoid any hasty IP editor or similar having a field-day. There was no by-election so I fully support deleting the redirect. doktorb wordsdeeds 22:05, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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PP2 (album)
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete  by Cyp per criterion G7. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 19:15, 26 December 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="PP2 (album)">PP2 (album) → Peppa Pig (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PP2_(album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Google search shows up nothing related to Peppa Pig. Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 20:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not in Allmusic or Discogs either. Narky Blert (talk) 13:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pure speculation.  Ss  112   12:18, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not based on any reliable sources.  Rob van  vee  06:18, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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Joint disease
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  & retarget  to Arthropathy (which has already been done by  . ' suggestion to move the main Arthropathy page to the  title should be raised as an WP:RM on the article's talk page. (non-admin closure)  Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  08:07, 31 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Joint disease → Arthropathy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joint_disease&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Joint diseases → Joint (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joint_diseases&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Joint Disease → Arthropathy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joint_Disease&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Either these all need to target the same target or all be deleted. For one, the singular redirects can be considered ambiguous since Osteoarthritis is also a disease that affects joints. Also, without a specific dedicated section at Joint, readers may not be finding what they are looking for, such as a list of joint diseases. Steel1943 (talk) 18:44, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've now redirected Joint diseases to arthropathy as well. Osteoarthritis is an arthropathy, so it fits in there. Joint does have a disease section with Arthropathy as a hatnote. I've now added a list of joint diseases to it. Mikael Häggström (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete "Joint Disease", keep the rest. Rationale for keep per MH; rationale for delete Joint Disease because there's no need to have a version where every word is capitalised. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:29, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That redirect was created in 2005 (14 years ago). We don't normally delete "unnecessary" redirects that have been around for even a quarter of that time, because there's no telling what edit summaries, external websites, etc. that might have used that link.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Redirect all to "arthropathy" or even better move "arthropathy" to joint disease. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 02:30, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
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Meniscal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:32, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Meniscal → Meniscus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meniscal&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems like an unclear WP:DICDEF as an alteration of the title of the target disambiguation page. Due to this, readers looking up this word may be better served either using Wikipedia's search function (delete the redirect) or going to Wiktionary. Steel1943 (talk) 18:36, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Hay milk
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn  now that the target anchor and term has been restored. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 19:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hay milk → Milk (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hay_milk&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hay-milk → Milk (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hay-milk&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, and target section does not exist. Steel1943 (talk) 18:32, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. The link #target was missing, I have added this now. We could add more contents but I guess the term is pretty descriptive and does not need further explanations. The main purpose of the redirect is to catch the term and forward the reader to the milk article. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 19:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: Now mentioned, although not in much detail. Glades12 (talk) 19:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Minecraft zombie pigman
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 30%23Minecraft zombie pigman

Zombie pigman
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 30%23Zombie pigman

Teacher's Pet (video game)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Teacher's Pet (video game)">Teacher's Pet (video game) → Arms Corporation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Teacher%27s_Pet_(video_game)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It targets to an animation studio that developed a hentai OVA of the same name. A video game is not the same as hentai OVA. Teacher's Pet (OVA) already exists and redirects there properly. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:00, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Launch mount landing pad
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Advanced Dominance Fighter
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Advanced Dominance Fighter → Ace Combat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Advanced_Dominance_Fighter&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - Not mentioned in article, crufty redirect without much use. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:05, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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List of nations of Ace Combat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * List of nations of Ace Combat → Ace Combat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_nations_of_Ace_Combat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - No nations at all are mentioned in the main article, so the redirect is irrelevant. Fancruft that has been a redirect for over a decade that doesn't meet Wikipedia standards. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Green Day:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Green Day: → Green Day (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Green_Day:&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely search term with colon after. – UnnamedUser (talk; contribs) 00:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

I thought it wasnt a good idea but I did it just in case it does happen St. Jimmy (talk) 01:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC) Good point delete St. Jimmy (talk) 00:36, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or the place will get cluttered with redirects: with: terminal: colons: Could also be read as an implausible shortening of Green Day: Rock Band. Narky Blert (talk) 13:22, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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