Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 27

January 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 27, 2019.

The Bugs & Daffy Show
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . It doesn't feel satisfying closing it this way since the majority seemed to want to do something here, but I don't see how else to close it. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:48, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The Bugs & Daffy Show → Looney Tunes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Bugs_%26_Daffy_Show&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Bugs N' Daffy Show → Looney Tunes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Bugs_N%27_Daffy_Show&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Bugs n' Daffy Show → Looney Tunes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Bugs_n%27_Daffy_Show&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article. However, The Bugs & Daffy Show is a R with history; per the history, these redirects seem to not be about the subject at Bugs 'n' Daffy. Steel1943 (talk) 21:04, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Not nearly so clear cut – The Bugs & Daffy Show is how the Looney Tunes were shown in television syndication (in the 1970s and 1980s?... I think on ABC). Anyway, I'm definitely inclined to Keep these redirects (and then maybe add a mention of this at the Looney Tunes page...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The last sentence of the lead of Bugs 'n' Daffy states that the block was shown on Cartoon Network, which correlates with my memory. —Ost (talk) 23:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to The Bugs Bunny Show Common confusing names for that show at times, per IJBall; Daffy was featured equally in the openings, so you know some stations and management folks would call it Bugs & Daffy just on memory (these were also used for local indie station compilations of the B/D cartoons which snuck into the public domain). Certainly a less confusing target than just an rd to the series.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 05:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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Th Long Depression
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:31, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Th Long Depression → Long Depression (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Th_Long_Depression&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Th Legen (Count Basie album) → The Legend (Count Basie album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Th_Legen_(Count_Basie_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete "Th" as a mispelling for "The" is very unlikely. How do I know? These are the only two such redirects in English Wikipedia. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 00:01, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete page created in error DISEman (talk) 01:13, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hougham
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 6%23Hougham

Template:CVG character
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . It appears the history doesn't really need to be preserved here, but I can help restore if needed. --BDD (talk) 20:32, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:CVG character → Template:Infobox character (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:CVG_character&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused redirect and not something a reader would probably write as it isn't very clear what the "c" in "cvg" stands for. Gonnym (talk) 11:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 19:54, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:14, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete unnndeed. Fun fact though, the C stands for computer and was used when WP:VG used to have computer in the title.--67.68.28.220 (talk) 04:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep unless the edit history is moved elsewhere, especially considering that this redirect is a R from merge. Maybe move the history to Template:Infobox CVG character? (I disagree that the "CVG" initialism is confusing and since this redirect is in the "Template:" namespace, in fact, I really do not see a need to delete this redirect, but in the least, the edit history should be preserved.) Steel1943  (talk) 20:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Archive without leaving redirect. We have a precedent in Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_January_4. Archiving to template subspace is the right thing to do when an old template is merged, we want to keep the page history, but we don't want to keep a redirect. Deryck C. 17:29, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm missing the rationale for preserving the page history. The template was redirected a decade ago and the "r from merge" template was added last month. I don't see records of an earlier merge in the page history. If there is no attribution reason to keep these numerous redirects (from page move/renames), better to strike altogether than to leave them lingering around. (not watching, please )  czar  20:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * delete or move without redirect to "infobox CVG character". Frietjes (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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194.14 g/mol
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * 194.14 g/mol → C6H10O7 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=194.14_g/mol&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is completely pointless, is not a valid search term, and has no incoming links. This is like if we created a redirect to car models based on how much the car weighs. Natureium (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - implausible. We may as well redirect 15.999 amu → oxygen and 207.2 amu → lead, which also seems pointless. ComplexRational (talk) 16:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete agree with the above. SmartSE (talk) 16:39, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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Flavored water
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Enhanced water. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:57, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Flavored water → Soft drink (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flavored_water&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Flavoured water → Squash (drink) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flavoured_water&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These should have the same target, but neither mentions flavo(u)red water specifically. I am not sure if soft drink is the best here, as the distinguishing characteristic is that they are marketed as water and not (say) cola or tea. Bottled water may be possible. 94.21.204.175 (talk) 10:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to "flavored"'s original target of Enhanced water which seems accurate and could be expanded. Not clear why redirect creator changed their mind about target. Squash is quite different. Pam  D  13:55, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to Enhanced water per Pam. –dlthewave ☎ 18:23, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget both as above. (Nominator) 94.21.204.175 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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Labor in the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to United States labor law. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 10:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Labor in the United States → Category:United States labor law (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Labor_in_the_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This cross-namespace redirect targets a category that does not comprehensively cover "Labor in the United States": there may be a better target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Retarget to United States labor law. Pam  D  10:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Retarget to United States labor law per PamD. bd2412  T 14:49, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to United States labor law as more appropriate target. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 00:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Wikiredirect
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikiredirect → Wikipedia:Redirect (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiredirect&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary cross-namespace redirect. This is an unlikely search term as proven by the Pageview stats which showed that only 13 people used this redirect in the last year. No pages link to this redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 08:10, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Unlikely search term with no viable target. –dlthewave ☎ 18:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 00:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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WikipediaDotorg
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * WikipediaDotorg → Wikipedia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WikipediaDotorg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is quite an unnecessary and implausible redirect. People can find what they are looking for if they type Wikipedia so the extra "Dotorg" doesn't make it more significant. There have been only 79 pageviews in the last month and no pages link to this redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 08:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unusual capitalization and formatting. The redirect's creator has made many useless redirects. w umbolo   ^^^  13:44, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 00:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Pointless redirect. Nothing will link to this and it's not a realistic search term. Natureium (talk) 01:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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The Colbert Report recurring elements
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Recurring segments on The Colbert Report. --BDD (talk) 20:29, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The Colbert Report recurring elements → The Colbert Report (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Colbert_Report_recurring_elements&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There doesn't seem to be any such list at the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 07:48, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Recurring segments on The Colbert Report. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:04, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:DABCOMBRAND
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  .  czar  04:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * DABCOMBRAND → Wikipedia:Broad-concept article (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:DABCOMBRAND&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * DABCOMPROD → Wikipedia:Broad-concept article (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:DABCOMPROD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per the page mover's admission, these redirects probably qualify for WP:G7 due to their creator creating these redirects, then moving them to different titles soon after. Given that most of the related shortcuts such as these begin with "Wikipedia:DABCON" instead of beginning with "Wikipedia:DABCOM", and since the nominated redirects have no incoming links, I'd say these should best be and can safely be deleted. Steel1943 (talk) 06:34, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I generally make moves like these without leaving a redirect, but in this case I had the thought that "COMPROD" sounds like "commercial product", so it wasn't entirely senseless to keep. I won't lost sleep over the existence or non-existence of the redirect, though. bd2412  T 14:38, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll just withdraw these now that it is clear that the creator did not intend to have them "WP:G7-ed", and there's probably no other target, existing or yet-to-be-created, for them anyways. Steel1943  (talk) 06:00, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Cheers! bd2412  T 18:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Schumer shutdown
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Consensus here is clear, but just a note on the sources, since typically I'd give that extra weight: they mostly seem to be about trying to make Schumer shutdown a thing rather than reporting that it is a thing, which is a meaningful difference (à la fetch). ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Schumer shutdown → 2018–19 United States federal government shutdown (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schumer_shutdown&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Schumer Shutdown → Government shutdowns in the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schumer_Shutdown&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Can't find the nickname, and may be confusing that is Schumer who caused the shutdown B dash (talk) 06:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems unlikely. Created by permanently banned sockpuppet. PeterTheFourth (talk) 09:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Nobody calls it that, and it's unlikely that folks would be searching for "Schumer shutdown". –dlthewave ☎ 13:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is not a nickname, Schumer is the Senate Minority Leader and as such has a big role in a shutdown so significant that it has been nominated a dozen times at WP:In the news. This also does not imply that he caused the shutdown, we have multiple redirects like this e.g. Trump shutdown. Retarget Schumer Shutdown to 2018–19 United States federal government shutdown for consistency. w umbolo   ^^^  13:49, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused and potentially both ambiguous and misleading. bd2412  T 14:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It is used by sources.            If it's ambiguous, it should be retargeted to Government shutdowns in the United States.  w umbolo   ^^^  21:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you proposing, then, that we should generally have such redirects from the names of all Senate leaders? There is no redirect at McConnell shutdown or Reid shutdown or Frist shutdown or Lott shutdown or Daschle shutdown or Baker shutdown. We don't even have links for Obama shutdown, Clinton shutdown, or Reagan shutdown. It seems problematic to have one unless we have them all, and it seems problematic to have them at all. bd2412  T 19:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - confusing and non-notable Dcfc1988 (talk) 22:32, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete even if this nickname could be said to apply to the most recent shutdown, it could just as easily apply to January 2018 United States federal government shutdown. Smartyllama (talk) 15:06, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete since it is not clear if the redirect refers to Chuck Schumer, Amy Schumer, or anyone else with the surname "Schumer". Steel1943  (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to January 2018 United States federal government shutdown, that was what it originally was intended to redirect to since Donald Trump and others branded it the Schumer shutdown. All the deletes are based on WP:IDONTLIKEIT. A banned user created it, is not a reason to delete and I got a good laugh from the above comment about someone confusing Chuck Schumer with Amy Schumer (although I believe they are related)--Rusf10 (talk) 07:14, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Phrase does not appear in either article, and there is no need to include the phrase as its only use in sources is quoting the White House's political mudslinging. czar  23:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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Umimhaw Kawase Syun
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Umimhaw Kawase Syun → Umihara Kawase (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Umimhaw_Kawase_Syun&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo Reach Out to the Truth 05:14, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
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Zorua and Zoroark
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 6%23Zorua and Zoroark

United States federal government shutdown of January 2018 (version 2)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="United States federal government shutdown of January 2018 (version 2)">United States federal government shutdown of January 2018 (version 2) → January 2018 United States federal government shutdown (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_federal_government_shutdown_of_January_2018_(version_2)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary redirect, unusable for the word "version 2". B dash (talk) 02:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - completely unnecessary.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 02:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, this appears to be an artifact of our technical processes, and not anything relevant to real-world usage. bd2412  T 14:48, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 00:03, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as an improper creation. This seems to have been created in the process of moving a page. Natureium (talk) 01:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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Chris Monzel
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:28, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Chris Monzel → Hamilton County, Ohio (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Monzel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target page. Pam D  00:28, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment It used to be. PorkchopGMX  ( talk with me  -  what i've done ) 15:43, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
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