Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 7

January 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 7, 2019.

Water fab
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Water fab → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_fab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water fabrication → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_fabrication&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water Fabrication → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_Fabrication&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water Fab → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_Fab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water Semiconductor Fab → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_Semiconductor_Fab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water Semiconductor Fabrication → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_Semiconductor_Fabrication&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water semiconductor fabrication → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_semiconductor_fabrication&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Water semiconductor fab → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_semiconductor_fab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Semiconductor Water Fabrication → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semiconductor_Water_Fabrication&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Semiconductor water fabrication → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semiconductor_water_fabrication&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Semiconductor Water Fab → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semiconductor_Water_Fab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Semiconductor water fab → Semiconductor device fabrication (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semiconductor_water_fab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These redirects should be deleted because they are unhelpful. "Water" is a legitimate search term, but all of these redirects are not because they refer to non-existent things. However, should a search for articles or terms containing "water" be performed, these redirects will show up in the results and hide legitimate results. Further more, some these redirects can mislead the reader, or cause unnecessary confusion, by appearing as legitimate topics related to water, only to redirect to an unrelated article about semiconductor fabrication. I suspect these redirects were created for convenience, because it is possible to mistype "wafer" (which is something related to semiconductor fabrication) as "water" on a QWERTY keyboard, since the T and F keys are next to each other. The problem with this "convenience" is that while it's possible to mistype "wafer" in the manner assumed, it's also just as likely that some other key next to the F key could be struck instead, and there's no reason to preference the mistyping assumed by these redirects. Finally, these redirects will never be used in articles because they don't convey the intended meaning. 99Electrons (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as unhelpful. Those looking for waFer fabs will not make such a typo. This is also misleading, implying that there is a water-based fabrication process which would be more like Atmospheric water generator or Water treatment but that the ones pertaining to semiconductor aren't water-related. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC) updated 19:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: I've copied a note from the creator's talk below ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 11:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I forget why I created it (it was before the common usage of categorized redirects), probably for misspelling, so I don't mind it being deleted. ··gracefool &#128172; 03:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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Xian (abbreviation)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Xian (abbreviation) → Christians (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xian_(abbreviation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Starting a discussion as to the proper target for this redirect. General consensus at Articles for deletion/Xian (abbreviation) was to redirect somewhere, but there was no consensus as to the target page. Of the choices offered, it looks like only Christian (given name) has any mention of the term at all. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep status quo (ie targetted at Christians). There is now a sourced mention of the abbreviations at Christians. I think that is the best place for this redirect to point to.  Pam  D  08:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No objection. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 15:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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"Template:Template" redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . I've replaced the remaining mainspace transclusions ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 16:03, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:TemplateWomenSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:WomenSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateWomenSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateWomenMusicalFormsAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:WomenMusicalFormsAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateWomenMusicalFormsAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateWomenLowKickKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade → Template:Women's Low-Kick Kickboxing at the 2007 WAKO Belgrade (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateWomenLowKickKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateWomenK1KickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade → Template:WomenK1KickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateWomenK1KickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateWomenAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:WomenAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateWomenAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateTeamSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:TeamSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateTeamSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateTeamAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:TeamAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateTeamAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:MenSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenSemiContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenMusicalFormsAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:MenMusicalFormsAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenMusicalFormsAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenLowKickKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade → Template:MenLowKickKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenLowKickKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenLightContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade → Template:MenLightContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenLightContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenK1KickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade → Template:MenK1KickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenK1KickboxingAt2007WAKOBelgrade&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenFullContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:MenFullContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenFullContactKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:Template:User WP Federally Administered Tribal Areas → Template:User WP Federally Administered Tribal Areas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Template:User_WP_Federally_Administered_Tribal_Areas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:TemplateMenAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra → Template:MenAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TemplateMenAeroKickboxingAt2007WAKOCoimbra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:Template:Tusculum Pioneers football coach navbox → Template:Tusculum Pioneers football coach navbox (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Template:Tusculum_Pioneers_football_coach_navbox&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Template:Template:National sports teams of Indonesia → Template:National sports teams of Indonesia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Template:National_sports_teams_of_Indonesia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete We've all done it: included "Template" when the code adds it for you. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * delete, unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:52, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all per delete all. Steel1943  (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom – Ianblair23 (talk) 05:51, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Please delete all these.  Buaidh  talk contribs 22:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Movie: crash
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 22:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Movie: crash → Crash (2004 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Movie:_crash&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Movie:Cowboy Bebop → Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Movie:Cowboy_Bebop&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Incorrectly structured titles. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as Movie isn't the lead in the title. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all. There is no "Movie:" namespace. Steel1943  (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Article(publishing)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 22:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Article(publishing)">Article(publishing) → Article (publishing) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Article(publishing)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Qaem(Anti-aircraft missiles)">Qaem(Anti-aircraft missiles) → Qaem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Qaem(Anti-aircraft_missiles)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete misformatted disambiguator (missing a space). UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete for space. Consider creating Qaem (weapon), Qaem (missile) (this one exists), Qaem (bomb) and adding to Qaem to QAM (disambiguation). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. Steel1943  (talk) 03:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Cashina Krabs
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:38, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Cashina Krabs → Mr. Krabs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cashina_Krabs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. The subject of this redirect seems to be a character in only one episode of SpongeBob SquarePants where the subject of the target article married money, but is neither mentioned at the target or listed at List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters. Steel1943 (talk) 23:13, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Sirena Irwin, the voice actor. w umbolo   ^^^  14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That could be seen as somewhat obscure/unhelpful considering that the biographical subject acts as the subject of this redirect, and this redirect is not an alternative name for the actress. It would be like redirecting Mario to Charles Martinet. Steel1943  (talk) 21:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak delete This character is mentioned only in the list of episodes at SpongeBob SquarePants (season 9). And the last name is probably not "Krabs". (I have not watched that episode.) – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 06:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. The episode is "Married to Money", but the name is only accurate if she took his last name, which is not guaranteed. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 15:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Polystar
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:17, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Polystar → Universal Music Group (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polystar&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, since Polystar is no UMG, and the article on UMG does not mention Polystar at all. RekishiEJ (talk) 07:16, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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El Tigre (comics)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Sabretooth (comics). -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="El Tigre (comics)">El Tigre (comics) → List of Marvel Comics characters: K (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=El_Tigre_(comics)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Kukulcan is not mentioned in the list article, and El Tigre is not listed at #E or #T. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak retarget to Sabretooth (comics) as an alias for El Tigre. If there are more comic book El Tigres then this should redirect to Tigre (disambiguation)  there's also White Tiger (comics) but that's a PTM for El Tigre Blanco.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:47, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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Media racism
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Mass media. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 22:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Not exclusive to target, and could be seen as a WP:SURPRISE. Steel1943 (talk) 23:12, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Media racism → Ethnic stereotype (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Media_racism&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Racism in Mass Media → Racism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racism_in_Mass_Media&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Racism in mass media → Mass media (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racism_in_mass_media&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

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 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget all to Mass media which, while not perfect is the most information we seem to have on this topic. Thryduulf (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Mass media. Closest match for the terms. bd2412  T 16:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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QUALIFIED TEACHER LEARNING AND SKILLS
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 22:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * QUALIFIED TEACHER LEARNING AND SKILLS → Qualified Teacher Learning and Skills (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=QUALIFIED_TEACHER_LEARNING_AND_SKILLS&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * QUARTET ON THE MIDDLE EAST → Quartet on the Middle East (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=QUARTET_ON_THE_MIDDLE_EAST&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RCAPS. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Shouldn't be in caps. CoolSkittle  (talk) 16:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not a common stylization for the name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely search terms. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch railway station
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn  . (non-admin closure) Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch railway station → Llanfairpwll railway station (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch_railway_station&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no point redirecting this to the railway station. The full name of this place is already redirected to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll which is sufficient enough. The extra "railway station" part is not required. It is unlikely that this full term will be typed up and searched to find this railway station. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep There are two articles with links to this page, and in each of those cases the full title is relevant because of the length of the name.  (Another link is to the target of the redirect, so no need for the redirect in that case.)  This redirect doesn't apparently satisfy WP:RFD. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. While it is unlikely that someone will type out the full term, that is far from the only way redirects are used. One can copy and paste the full name, which seems plausible to me. Additionally, redirects are used via linking and David Biddulph has shown that this redirect is being used in this fashion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:44, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep in addition to the above, the railway station is the reason for the very long name, and the station is famous for this name - it appears in countless lists of facts and trivia, etc, for example - so it is near certain that there are links to this title from outside Wikipedia that would needlessly be broken. Thryduulf (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Qrigin of Species
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Qrigin of Species → On the Origin of Species (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Qrigin_of_Species&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is unlikely that someone will put a "q" at the beginning of "origin" so this is not an obvious misspelling of "origin". Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Very unlikely typo (opposite sides of the keyboard). UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * They're adjacent on the Dvorak layout (O is where S is on QWERTY and Q is where X is). Thryduulf (talk) 17:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This isn't Old English s/f. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Belete qer mom. Steel1943  (talk) 02:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:DAFT-worthy ridiculum. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 20:30, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Wik.is
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Wik.is → MindTouch (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wik.is&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delete Does not appear in target article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Content was removed in 2010; apparently it used to be part of their services offered. Now it is... spam?  Crap?  I dunno.  Delete as misleading. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:41, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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Alabama (band)
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Wikipedia:NAWARD
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * NAWARD → Wikipedia:Notability (awards) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NAWARD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Requesting this shortcut to be deleted since the AfD participants (example here and here) are misquoting the shortcut as an acceptable notability criteria for awards which it never was.  D Big X ray ᗙ  13:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator per WP:WDAFD since the community believes that redirects to unvetted proposals can be kept in WP space. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  20:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, this won't fix people misusing the page, they can still just link directly to the article. If misquoting is really an issue, list the page at WP:MFD. Danski454 (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Danski454, appreciate your kind feedback, based on your suggestion I have started the MFD discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Notability (awards). inspite of the MfD, I do believe we should also discuss the benefits of keeping this redirect, when it leads to folks thinking to believe confuses folks into believing that its a valid notability policy. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  14:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. While the target exists, this is a perfectly valid shortcut to it. If the MfD closes with a consensus to delete this can be speedily deleted (WP:CSD) at that point; if the consensus there is to rename this can be revisted at that point. Thryduulf (talk) 17:08, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:46, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Wikipedia:Notability (awards) is being MFDed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Notability (awards).  The greater question is whether there is notability criteria for articles about the awards themselves or articles about people who win certain awards. Also when does an award get its own article vs. being part of the overall set of awards.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Those are not questions for RfD though. Thryduulf (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * User:AngusWOOF as Thryduulf rightly said, your comment should be made at MfD, they are indeed valid questions. AFAIK there isn't any community consensus page or RfC for award notability. This WP:NAWARD definitely isn't one and it should not exist to mislead AfD participants as has happened in the examples I gave. Because of these reason this redirect and corresponding target page is actually doing more harm than good. hence I believe it should be deleted. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  19:44, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've added my comments there. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per 's points. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * How about retargeting the redirect to WP:GNG since there isn't a community vetted proposal for NAWARD and the crux of the draft that NAWARD is currently targeted to is also WP:GNG, this should also prevent the confusion among AfD participants. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  13:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Acceptable shortcut even if the page is userfied. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 20:39, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Speculated to have been autistic
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:34, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Speculated to have been autistic → Autism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speculated_to_have_been_autistic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Originally an r from typo, now lost in the bot changes. Implausible. &#91;Username Needed&#93; 10:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if there was still a list of people suspected to be autistic then I'm not sure this would be a good redirect to it, and it certainly isn't a good redirect to something other than such a list (or possibly category). Thryduulf (talk) 17:13, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Very unlikely search term. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, it might make sense as a category, but as a article redirect it is junk. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Little Ed Blue/A Twist of Ed
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Little Ed Blue/A Twist of Ed">Little Ed Blue/A Twist of Ed → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Little_Ed_Blue/A_Twist_of_Ed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There's already a redirect for Little Ed Blue, so why have this longer one, too? Paper Luigi T • C 09:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep According to the target, this is the full title for S04E06. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes per Tavix. Steel1943  (talk) 02:55, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Run Ed Run / A Town Called Ed
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes. Deryck C. 18:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Run Ed Run / A Town Called Ed">Run Ed Run / A Town Called Ed → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Run_Ed_Run_/_A_Town_Called_Ed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redundant and implausible redirect. There's a redirect for Run Ed Run already, so why have both? Paper Luigi T • C 08:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. According to the target, this is the full title for S05E11. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:13, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Take This Ed and Shove It Pts. 1 and 2
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes. Deryck C. 18:39, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Take This Ed and Shove It Pts. 1 and 2 → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Take_This_Ed_and_Shove_It_Pts._1_and_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect. There exists a redirect already for Take This Ed and Shove It. Paper Luigi T • C 08:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes since the 30-minute blocks of Ed, Edd n Eddy usually had two different episodes, so the fact that this specific 30-minute block had two parts of the same episode leaves this redirect making sense. Steel1943  (talk) 02:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Special episodes
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Talk:Once upon an Ed
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 * The result of the discussion was restore page  . Early close given clear resolution. In addition, the fate of this page is tied to the upcoming result of Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 7. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 23:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Talk:Once upon an Ed → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Once_upon_an_Ed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from one namespace to another. Paper Luigi T • C 08:55, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Restore this version, which resolves the nominator's rationale. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Once Upon An Ed
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes. Deryck C. 18:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Once Upon An Ed → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Once_Upon_An_Ed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redundant redirect. Once upon an Ed already exists. Paper Luigi T • C 08:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as an R from miscapitalization. It is not redundant for all uses that are caps sensitive. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes per Tavix. Steel1943  (talk) 04:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Full version of Avast Ye Eds
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Full version of Avast Ye Eds → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Full_version_of_Avast_Ye_Eds&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect at best. This article's only noteworthy edit history is a fan-made plot summary. Paper Luigi T • C 08:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as not the title of the episode. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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For the Ed, By the Ed
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:33, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="For the Ed, By the Ed">For the Ed, By the Ed → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=For_the_Ed,_By_the_Ed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is unnecessary because For the Ed, by the Ed already exists. Paper Luigi T • C 08:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: you do understand that when an admin moves a page a redirect is automatically created. That redirect is from the existing page that was titled incorrectly and redirected to the correct page after it was moved. I have no feelings on it being deleted or not. &laquo;&raquo;Who?&iquest;? 16:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep as an R from miscapitalization. It is not unnecessary for all uses that are caps sensitive. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:15, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as plausible caps. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as plausible search term. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:58, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes per the "keep"-ers. Steel1943  (talk) 04:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Season 5
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10th province of the kingdom of armenia
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Rivals
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . on whether "Rivals" should point to Rivalry or Rival (disambiguation). Therefore, I will default to "do nothing". -- Tavix  ( talk ) 20:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Rivals → Rivalry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rivals&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I just closed Talk:Rival (disambiguation) as move. There was some discussion over where Rivals should target. Should this point to Rivalry or Rival (disambiguation)? feminist (talk) 04:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * pinging RM participants. feminist (talk) 04:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I would assert that the clear primary topic of "Rivals", as with "Rival" (since they tend to come in pairs), is Rivalry. All references to films and other media with that name invoke rivalry, and they are so named for that reason. bd2412  T 04:54, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Rivalry per BD2412 and WP:PLURALPT.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 13:53, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * "I would assert..." etc. Any evidence that someone typing "rivals" is most likely to be looking for an article/definition on rivalry, keeping in mind that this is an encyclopedia and not a dictionary?  Without such evidence forthcoming, oppose a redirect of Rivals (plural) to the page on rivalry;  there are numerous entries on the "rival" DAB page that are actual encyclopedic topics and "rivals" should direct there.  — <span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> AjaxSmack  21:13, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Neutral, but I have just spent some time tidying up Rival (disambiguation) and retargeting to there: The Rival, The Rivals (disambiguation), Rival (song), Rivals (film), Rivalry (disambiguation), Rivals (disambiguation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:59, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment |Rivals_(1925_film)|Rivals_(1972_film)|Rivals_(2008_film)|Rivals_(novel)|Rivals_(Coal_Chamber_album)|Rivals_(song)|Rivals_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)|Rivals,_Kentucky Here's the page view statistics for everything at Rivalry (disambiguation) which is actually called plain old "Rivals" (as opposed to The Rivals or other WP:PTMs like Sonic Rivals). As of now, those nine articles combined get about twice as many page views as Rivalry has been getting since it was turned into an article . 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:36, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep pointing to Rivalry as with Rival. Anyone looking for the dab page should try it with (disambiguation) AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:35, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the disambiguation page. Looking at google searches for "Rivals" excluding Wikipedia and mirrors and it's clear that there is no primary topic. Re AngusWOOF: yes, anyone looking for the disambiguation page should search Rivals (disambiguation) (which is why we should have such links to set indexes also), but most people are looking for a topic - just there is no single one that the significant majority are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Point to disambiguation page. ("Keep" and "retarget" seems to have swapped meanings halfway down the discussion.) I contemplated closing the discussion but couldn't confidently call a "rough consensus" either way, and there's no status quo ante to default to, so I may as well vote. The disambiguation page includes some artistic works whose titles are in the plural, so I think the s in the title pushes it just over the edge for me to think it's worth the disambiguation. Deryck C. 18:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I think in this case the status quo ante to default to is redirecting to the DAB, since the DAB was moved, the status quo would be the new location of the DAB.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:39, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * If we were to eliminate all of the partial title matches on the disambiguation page, are there any significant uses of the word "Rivals" as a name that are not references to a rivalry, real or fictional? Note that I would consider instances of "The Rivals" to be partial to the extent that there is no basis for thinking that these are commonly referred to as "Rivals" without a preceding "The". bd2412  T 15:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Tony Bray
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate.  (non-admin closure) AlbanGeller (talk) 03:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Tony Bray → Margaret Thatcher (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Bray&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from the name of a person notable only for briefly dating the redirect target in her youth. He's not a plausible search term on this basis, because even the few people who've ever heard of him at all would still be unlikely to expect him to have an encyclopedia article. Bearcat (talk) 01:32, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete. We also have Venom (band) which includes a member called Tony Bray, not the same Tony Bray as the target of this redirect. Deryck C. 11:18, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with disambiguation too - I would say that both Tony Brays would clear Bearcat's criterion of "plausible search term in their own right". Deryck C. 18:43, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Both Margaret Thatcher and Venom (band) meet WP:DABMENTION. Note that Anthony Bray redirects to Venom (band). -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Anthony Bray definitely goes to the band member. Tony is less used, mentioned in some random articles, but does not seem to be an actual credit for their album which is Abaddon. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:49, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * We don't routinely create DABMENTION redirects for every person who happens to get briefly namechecked in an article about somebody else; we do that only if there's a reason to believe the person is still a plausible search term in their own right even if they don't quite clear a notability standard. Bearcat (talk) 17:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * DAB per above, although the current edit history (including the categories) could be disambiguated to something like Tony Bray (Margaret Thatcher).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:46, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete. DABMENTION is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for something to be included in a dab page. Young Miss Thatcher's boyfriens is mentioned several times in her article, but that's only providing a vantage point on her: there's no substantial content about himself to warrant either a redirect or inclusion in a dab page. The band member, on the other hand, is more eligible, but I'm not sure how far we'd want to go creating redirects about alternative names of band members. I'd rather we leave it to the search engine in this case as it appears to be doing its job well enough. – Uanfala (talk) 15:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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