Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 July 20

July 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 20, 2019.

Sigma personality
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 8%23Sigma personality

Akhilendra Sahu
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per WP:R2 by . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Akhilendra Sahu → Draft:Akhilendra Sahu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akhilendra_Sahu&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Mistakenly left a redirect behind when moving a dud article back to draft  scope_creep Talk  20:08, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per R2. This is not a necessary nomination. Geolodus (talk) 20:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
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Ali Pur(Punjnad)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 8%23Ali Pur(Punjnad)

466453
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 7%23466453

GOOGL (NASDAQ)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 7%23GOOGL (NASDAQ)

Standard YouTube Licence
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . I'm refining to the relevant section. The objection given to these redirects has been addressed. --BDD (talk) 02:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Standard YouTube Licence → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Standard_YouTube_Licence&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Standard YouTube License → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Standard_YouTube_License&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target page does not contain a license. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The Standard YouTube License is what users choose when they want to retain copyright of their videos, instead using of a Creative Commons license. It's discussed briefly (though not by name) at YouTube. - Eureka Lott 15:57, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not discussed under the term "Standard Youtube License", which is what this redirect implies. It would still be confusing for someone searching for it.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:03, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, now it's mentioned by name. That wasn't very difficult. - Eureka Lott 16:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per EurekaLott. Thryduulf (talk) 10:22, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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EUtube
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 02:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)


 * EUtube → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EUtube&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Eutube → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eutube&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * EU Tube → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EU_Tube&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirects created by the same editor. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. "EUTube" appears to have been used by a number of news sources to refer to the European Commission's YouTube account when it was created in 2007, but the name does not seem to have caught on or be in official use. There is, of course, no Wikipedia page dedicated to the European Commission's internet presence. — the Man in Question (in question)  20:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. That channel still has activity today and is verified, so it is official or not? https://europa.eu/european-union/contact/social-networks_en#n:3+i:+e:+t:+s:   searching by YouTube lists EUTube as one of its many YouTube channels.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:35, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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Youtube Terms
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Youtube Terms → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Youtube_Terms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No list of terms mentioned in article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. If taken to mean "terms and conditions" (which was not the creator's intent), it could redirect to YouTube, but given just about everything on the internet has terms and conditions, I don't really see much plausibility in this redirect. Anyone search for YouTube's terms and conditions on Google will not be hoping to find the Wikipedia article on YouTube; they'll be looking for YouTube's page on the matter. — the Man in Question (in question)  21:00, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and WP:NOTDIRECTORY of business services AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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YouTubeCanDoBetter
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 7%23YouTubeCanDoBetter

Adam The Woo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Adam The Woo → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adam_The_Woo&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * ThatSkynyrdKid70 → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ThatSkynyrdKid70&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems like a self promoting redirect that has nothing to do with the target. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:46, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Good catch. — the Man in Question (in question)  21:17, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Article shouldn't start as a redirect to YouTube if these folks are YouTubers. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:28, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is a List of YouTubers but these people are not mentioned there. Thryduulf (talk) 10:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete seems to be obscure youtubers -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:32, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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Video Manager
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Video Manager → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_Manager&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Creator Studio → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Creator_Studio&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too vague to redirect here. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:45, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete both  per nom. While "video manager" and "creator studio" might appear in the target article text, they are not clearly distinct to YouTube. For similar reasons "File Menu" and "Help Menu" should not redirect to articles on particular softwares. - Ryk72 talk 12:47, 20 July 2019 (UTC) amended Ryk72 talk 12:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I have also added Creator Studio for the same reason.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:50, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Appreciate the ping. I've added to my !vote. - Ryk72 talk 12:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete both Facebook also launched a Creator Studio so it could become a redirect, but then MOS:DABMENTION would require it be mentioned in the article, which it doesn't for now. Video manager is also vague, could refer to YouTube, Vimeo, Sametime or any app that does video editing and management. It is also a job title at numerous businesses. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:09, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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WeTube
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * WeTube → YouTube (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WeTube&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:39, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. - Ryk72 talk 12:48, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. WeTube is a channel on YouTube. There is also a website, wetube.io. But nothing appears to be notable. — the Man in Question (in question)  21:04, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
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Durezza
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Dureza. Consensus is that this redirect is most useful as a misspelling of Dureza. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 11:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Durezza → Hardness (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Durezza&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no mention of "Durezza'' at Hardness. I suggest retargeting to Dureza. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:02, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. wikt:durezza tells me that "Durezza" is Italian for hardness and a few related meanings (the Italian wp article looks to be a sort of broad concept article) so that's a WP:FORRED issue, however it is also a synonym of and plausible misspelling of the grape variety. Thryduulf (talk) 10:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget for now per nom. Once the musical term gets added somewhere in English Wikipedia, I suspect it might be prominent enough to displace the grape from WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, but right now none of the mentions of the musical term are even worth a hatnote. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget as above, likely typo or alternative spelling. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:30, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Dureza as likely misspelling -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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Self-Esteem, Self-Love
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Self-Esteem, Self-Love">Self-Esteem, Self-Love → Self-love (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Self-Esteem,_Self-Love&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:XY Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment there are lots of google hits where these terms are basically treated as synonyms for a broader concept that encompasses both our separate articles. Thryduulf (talk) 10:10, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not a thesaurus list. — the Man in Question (in question)  21:04, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This reads like a book title but it isn't. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:09, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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Eſteem
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Eſteem">Eſteem → Self-esteem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=E%C5%BFteem&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: it's unclear why a redirect with a long s is required (or failing that retarget to Esteem) Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:45, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No obvious relevance to the use of an archaic character. PC78 (talk) 09:28, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, which will make the search engine automatically find esteem. (Retarget there as second option). —Kusma (t·c) 11:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nothing at target article indicates that this spelling is related. - Ryk72 talk 12:44, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: I redirected to "self-esteem" because at the time "esteem" redirected to "self-esteem" https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=esteem&action=history . I think I saw the long s character on the title of an old book or in a work, but I did not record which one it was :( WhisperToMe (talk) 16:26, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. — the Man in Question (in question)  21:05, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This could be a potential stylization for some brand / neologism, but not likely. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:29, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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Template:R from noun
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Consensus is that there is a primary topic, rendering disambiguation unnecessary. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 16:34, 29 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:R from noun → Template:R from common noun (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:R_from_noun&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * [[Category:Redirects from nouns]] → Category:Redirects from common nouns (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Redirects_from_nouns&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Disambiguate both, as their titles can also refer to proper nouns (see Template:R from proper noun and Category:Redirects from proper nouns, respectively). Geolodus (talk) 08:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment It's always worth making aware of discussions related to redirect categorisation, and I'd like to hear their take, but I'm leaning towards agreeing with the nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 10:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It's even better if you spell the username of the person you are trying to ping correctly: user:Paine Ellsworth. Thryduulf (talk) 10:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I did notify on their talk page. Geolodus (talk) 10:17, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I hadn't looked at the history to see they were the creator when I wrote that. Thryduulf (talk) 10:45, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as is. In all these years I've never seen any reason to qualify the R from noun template redirect or its category since I've always seen "common noun" to be a sort of primary topic for the term "noun". A "proper noun" is more of a special case for the term, and common nouns are vastly more, well, common.  Paine Ellsworth , ed.  put'r there  13:43, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as is. After reading all the above and thinking more on this I realise that "noun" is normally used to mean "common noun" outside specific discussions about language, and the status quo doesn't seem to have caused any issues in the past so changing would involve a lot of work for little gain. Thryduulf (talk) 10:37, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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List of Star Wars planets (M-N)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of Star Wars planets (M-N)">List of Star Wars planets (M-N) → List of Star Wars planets and moons (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Star_Wars_planets_(M-N)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect, as it uses a categorization scheme that isn't used in the article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:46, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. There used to be a whole series of lists, organised in this fashion, but named with an endash not a hyphen, e.g. List of Star Wars planets (M–N). These were deleted in October 2014 at Articles for deletion/List of Star Wars planets (A–B) along with the redirects from titles with a hyphen (including an earlier one at this title), but this redirect was created in 2016 without any of the others apparently being. The current target list article has existed since 2005 but doesn't seem to have been brought up in the deletion discussion. I'm rather confused to be honest. Thryduulf (talk) 10:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as leftover housekeeping. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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An acequia
<span id="A coronary care unit (CCU)"> <span id="A credit rating agency (CRA)">                <span id="A failure modes and effects analysis (FMEA)">       <span id="A geographic information system (GIS)">    <span id="A ground effect vehicle (GEV)">          <span id="An internationalized domain name (IDN)">    <span id="A justice of the peace (JP)">             <span id="A nav/attack system">                       <span id="A private military company (PMC)">     <span id="A quality management system (QMS)">             <span id="A spoiled child (spoiled brat)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 7%23An acequia