Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 11

June 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 11, 2019.

Crown of England
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Crown of England

Curt Doolittle
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Change was reverted, will reopen discussion if the content ends up being removed after a discussion. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 19:53, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Curt Doolittle → Propertarianism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Curt_Doolittle&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I have removed the single mention of Doolittle from the target article, as it was undue, quasi-promotional and backed by a fringe source. You can see the diff here. With the information removed, there's no reason for the redirect. signed,Rosguill talk 18:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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Alberta Ten Thije
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . This is a disputed new redirect and the creator has been notified. Defaulting to delete. Deryck C. 12:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Alberta Ten Thije → Josien Ten Thije-Voortman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alberta_Ten_Thije&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neither the target nor its sources make use of the name "Alberta", I'm not sure what justification there is for it. signed,Rosguill talk 18:20, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * A relative, perhaps? Or maybe "Alberta" is her middle name? The former would be legitimate, the latter not, but the page's references are totally silent. --BDD (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Leeds Trinity Students' Union
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Leeds Trinity Students' Union → Leeds Trinity University (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leeds_Trinity_Students%27_Union&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target, not a useful search term. signed,Rosguill talk 18:10, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete As I put it in a similar discussion, a student union is probably WP:RUNOFTHEMILL, and the redirect as it stands certainly does no one any good. Anyone searching this term knows about Leeds Trinity University already. --BDD (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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Makru language
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Makru language

Komolom languages
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 22:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Komolom languages → Mombum languages (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Komolom_languages&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:18, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Komolom is the name for Mombum as given by Pawley and Hammarström (2018). It's now cited in the main article. Sagotreespirit (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Socialist Party (Italy, July 2007)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Socialist Party (Italy, July 2007)

Socialist Party (De Michelis)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Socialist Party (De Michelis) → Socialist Party (Italy, 2007, De Michelis) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Socialist_Party_(De_Michelis)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wrong redirect, it should be deleted: it was not the only "Socialist Party" led by Gianni De Michelis, and certainly not the most important one. Wololoo (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep unless this redirect can be proven ambiguous with another subject that exists on Wikipedia presently. Steel1943  (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm ... maybe Socialist Party (Italy, 1996). Steel1943  (talk) 18:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Exactly, I was referring to it.--Wololoo (talk) 20:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
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ACON Investments LLC
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was convert ACON Investments into an article, and retarget ACON Investments LLC and ACON there.  (Closing per WP:RELIST since it seems consensus has been reached.) (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 21:26, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * ACON Investments LLC → Igloo Products (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ACON_Investments_LLC&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * ACON Investments → Igloo Products (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ACON_Investments&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * ACON → Igloo Products (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ACON&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Company page redirects to the page of a random subsidiary for no discernible reason. dmartin969 05:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Keep - Keep per WP:CHEAP, or move page to ACON Investments LLC. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:40, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:XY. The holding company also owns Goody (brand), SuzoHapp North America, and possibly other notable brands or companies. There's no good reason to favor just one of them, or to hijack the brand's article to be about the holding company. We don't have an article on this company, and it's not doing our readers any favors to pretend otherwise. --BDD (talk) 21:22, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or maybe create a stub / disambig...? per BDD. I mean, either article or nothing sounds better than a one sided redirect - Nabla (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 11:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. I found a couple variant redirects, which I have added to this discussion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:28, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I plan to turn ACON Investments into an article, but I suppose that is just as easy to do from a redlink as from a redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 *  Reply -, I have just started an article about ACON Investments, therefore, I support the creation of an article. Using a top down philosophy, all of these terms should be kept. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm satisfied with this. We may not have much more to say about it, but I think it passes WP:NCORP. --BDD (talk) 14:32, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipeidea
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 00:13, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipeidea → Wikipedia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipeidea&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo Abote2 (talk) 10:15, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, aware you aware of tooday's educational sistem? Of the level of reeding and writeing abillity? Randy Kryn (talk) 11:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete very implausible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible.  Edgeweyes (talk) 19:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 *  Keep - Keep plausible misspelling per WP:CHEAP. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - The typo is plausible on Dvorak, where the "i" key is located to the left of the "d" key. The typo is also plausible on Colemak, where the "i" key is to the right of the "e" key. I'm sure there are readers who use Dvorak or Colemak, so the redirect can be kept. Invalid OS (talk) 12:00, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipidya
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Wikipidya

Wiikiipedia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:55, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Wiikiipedia → Wikipedia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wiikiipedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo Abote2 (talk) 10:14, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, that's not how it's spelled? Randy Kryn (talk) 11:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as an implausible typo. PC78 (talk) 15:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete very implausible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible.  Edgeweyes (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per my argument in the discussion on . Invalid OS (talk) 12:08, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Wikkippedia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:55, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikkippedia → Wikipedia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikkippedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo Abote2 (talk) 09:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, Unlikely, but.......there it is. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as an implausible typo. PC78 (talk) 15:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete very implausible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible.  Edgeweyes (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unless you have an old and beat-up keyboard, you're not typing this. Even then, you would probably just buy a new one. Invalid OS (talk) 12:07, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Gilling (textiles)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Gilling (textiles)

Template:Engrish
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  ... and I don't see another relist making it any clearer either. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 15:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Engrish → Template:Rough translation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Engrish&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Offensive, non-intuitive, and unused. I'd argue that WP:RNEUTRAL doesn't apply because it's a template; we made up the name. Julia ☺ 03:20, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:29, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment This redirect was created as a result of this discussion in 2012. Perhaps it makes sense to invite those editors to participate here? - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 20:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 14:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, kingboyk (talk) 01:10, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * 1)  says this redirect is unused.  Checking I find it has been used.
 * 2) As to whether the redirect is offensive, well, it redirects to Template:Rough translation.  Is  Template:Rough translation offensive?  Who, exactly is this redirect offending?
 * 3) Perhaps nominator could explain more fully why they think  WP:RNEUTRAL doesn't apply?
 * In my opinion, if more compelling arguments aren't offered, I think it should be kept as is. Geo Swan (talk) 01:53, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I assume the "unused" comment refers to the lack of transclusions for Engrish, but clearly 96 pageviews over four years does not indicate significant usage. And I think "offensive" clearly refers to the term "Engrish"... PC78 (talk) 06:26, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep; harmless, and it gets the point across well. Nyttend (talk) 22:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not sure what the nom means by "we made up the name": we literally have an article named Engrish and there is nothing there to suggest that the term is considered offensive. However, it's also clear from the article that the term refers to something quite specific rather than "rough translations" in general, so it's use here is misapplied and therefore inappropriate. PC78 (talk) 06:26, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Phonetic spelling/pronunciation for some non-English speakers. For OP, please be aware Wikipedia is not censored and may offend. Lexlex (talk) 17:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Pseudoegyptology
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Pseudoegyptology

Winged lizard
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 25%23Winged lizard