Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 5

June 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 5, 2019.

Tottenham (NSW)railway station
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Tottenham (NSW)railway station → Tottenham, New South Wales (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tottenham_(NSW)railway_station&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Very implausible typo, doesn't match any usual disambiguation conventions, and only a couple of incoming links. Triptothecottage (talk) 23:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and past precedent with similarly malformed redirects. PC78 (talk) 00:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note that there were two uses in mainspace which I have now replaced with Tottenham railway station, New South Wales, one at Bogan Gate–Tottenham railway line and one via Template:Broken Hill Line. PC78 (talk) 21:56, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:R from tpyo
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 16%23Template:R from tpyo

Air-borne toy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:34, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Air-borne toy → Libelle (toy) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Air-borne_toy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not the only "air-born toy" there is. And what is an air-born toy, anyway? Toy airplanes?, things that you can throw in the air? I don't think we've got an article that discusses such types of toys generally (though I should admit I didn't look very hard). – Uanfala (talk) 21:24, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect might cause confusion. And we don't have Airborne toy. (And note I've AfD'd Libelle (toy)). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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SnarXiv
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  with WP:REFUND available if it becomes mentioned somewhere. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * SnarXiv → ArXiv (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SnarXiv&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

AfD consensus to merge, but no longer mentioned at target. See this diff, where the merged content was removed almost immediately per WP:UNDUE. Note that no one at the AfD actually supported a merge, but not everyone agreed to the subject's worthiness of inclusion. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 08:56, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Well, snarXiv had one decent source (Science 18 June 2010 vol 328, no 5985, p 1461. Perhaps that is enough to justify a one-line entry somewhere like Humor on the internet, in which case we should merge to there and provide a link to the snarXiv website. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:46, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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Vector (skin)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Vector (skin) → Wikipedia:Skin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vector_(skin)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cross-namespace redirect. No incoming links. Probably should be deleted. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 17:55, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If this redirect is kept, please tag it with Template:R to project page. I am currently unsure on whether to keep or delete this; it seems both useful (for those who don't know about namespaces) and unuseful (because it misleads those who are actually searching for an encyclopedia article on the subject). Geolodus (talk) 18:25, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * delete users do not need to be spoon fed. If they know enough to look for this, they know enough of the 'net and wp to find it. - Nabla (talk) 18:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is not a target that users who do not know about namespaces particularly need to be able to easily find, and there is already a hatnote at the Vector disambiguation page to help them. I would have proposed retargetting to an encyclopaedic discussion of the skin, but I've not been able to find any (nor, for comparison, is there any about the Monobook skin). Thryduulf (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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Nathaniel Mary Quinn
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural close  .  will be starting an article for the subject as they appear to meet notability guidelines. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 04:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Not listed at the target. signed,Rosguill talk 17:41, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Nathaniel Mary Quinn → List of American artists 1900 and after (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nathaniel_Mary_Quinn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 'Comment Looks to be clearly notable via WP:ARTIST 4)d, assuming the biography at his dealer's site pans out: "Collections include the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York (link); Brooklyn Museum, New York; Los Angeles County Museum of Art; Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles; Hammer Museum, Los Angeles; and Art Institute of Chicago." I'd be happy to write the article, but unsure about how to go about writing the article while this discussion is happening. I assume the redirect discussion has to be closed first?ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I found three museum collections and a New Yorker profile, so notability is established., ping me when this redirect discussion is closed and I will move this draft to article space. Thanks!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Eddie Martinez (painter)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 11:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Eddie Martinez (painter)">Eddie Martinez (painter) → List of American artists (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eddie_Martinez_(painter)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unhelpful redirect, the target just has links to List of American artists before 1900 and List of American artists 1900 and after. Needless to say, Martinez is not included in those articles either. signed,Rosguill talk 17:40, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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Internet+forum
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:50, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Internet+forum">Internet+forum → Internet forum (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet%2Bforum&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Created by with description "From WP:TOPRED". The only place it's linked from is User:Rybec/failed-requests-mn which seems to just be a list of redlinks (which seems kinda odd), which also links to Internet+foru. The title is implausible, as it would only be encountered if manually editing the title while also using parameter encoding for spaces (which only happens with forms and not with normal URL encoding); this doesn't seem common and I'm not aware of other such redirects like that. Pokechu22 (talk) 03:24, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete as an implausible search term. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 10:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The appearance on the WP:TOPRED list is ample evidence that this is a very plausible search term, indeed almost by definition we should have articles or redirects for every term on that list with a clear target. Thryduulf (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as misleading and implying there's something called an Internet Plus Forum. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:22, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete This is typo (the + and _ keys are right next to each other) that would get VERY WP:COSTLY if precedent were established. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:20, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible, and most likely relates to a search method that uses "+" instead of spaces. Steel1943  (talk) 00:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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Abelone
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 25%23Abelone

Relativity drive
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 22%23Relativity drive

Suicidal
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Suicidal → Suicide (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suicidal&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Suicidal behaviour → suicide (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suicidal_behaviour&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Suicidal behavior → Suicide (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suicidal_behavior&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This page has redirected to Suicide and Suicide crisis. I would like community input on what is the best title to redirect it to. Interstellarity (talk) 11:44, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note I've added Suicidal behaviour and Suicidal behavior to this nomination as they should target the same place. Thryduulf (talk) 18:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the dab at Suicidal tendencies. My first thought here was a dab page linking to the above two articles, suicidal ideation, suicidal person and Suicidal (song)*, but then I found that Suicidal tendencies is an already existing dab page that links to all of these targets and wouldn't surprise anyone landing there. (*a redirect to Beautiful Girls (Sean Kingston song) but reading that article the redirect seems appropriate). Thryduulf (talk) 18:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The current target is probably the best central repository of links relevant to what a person typing those terms is actually looking for. bd2412  T 16:37, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * What do you think about retargeting Suicidal to Suicidal ideation? This word is most commonly used when someone is considering suicide. Interstellarity  T 🌟 14:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Anybody here? Interstellarity  T 🌟 20:34, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think targeting it to Suicide is the most straightforward solution. bd2412  T 20:47, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I still think that the disambiguation page is the best thing we can target here for the reasons I outlined above. I disagree that the article is the best repository of links - that's something that (unsurprisingly) the dab page does much better. Thryduulf (talk) 21:34, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The disambiguation page is a WP:DABCONCEPT plus one band. bd2412  T 02:23, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep going to suicide as this is the best overview and main topic. The others are minor topics such as the band. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 03:59, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The base "suicidal" is a good R from adjective; lots of things could be called suicidal. For now, at least, the main article is also the best place for the "behavior" ones. Pointing them to Suicidal ideation is counterintuitive to me, since one is behavior and one is thoughts, though I guess they're not completely separate concepts. --BDD (talk) 18:30, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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Melissa Petersen
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  now that the sourcing has been sorted out and mentioned. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Melissa Petersen → The Nitro Girls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melissa_Petersen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not actually mentioned in the target. signed,Rosguill talk 19:23, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete as is not at target. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. It seems that Melissa Bellin, aka Nitro Girl Spice, changed her last name upon marriage. For example, https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=3962 lists her (since deleted) Facebook page as https://www.facebook.com/melissa.g.petersen.9. Per her CV (from homepage), the last name is actually hyphenation with maiden name, Grill-Petersen. —⁠andrybak (talk) 00:05, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep per andrybak. I've added a citation of her homepage along with her current name. --BDD (talk) 17:20, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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Mircea Hava
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . No longer a redirect. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:36, 8 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Mircea Hava → Alba Iulia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mircea_Hava&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect no longer makes sense because he is now a MEP for Romania. Not much information in the linked article (city of which he used to be mayor), so redlink appropriate. Zerach (talk) 01:05, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I replaced the redirect with an article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:18, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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El Assico
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 02:27, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * El Assico → Iowa–Iowa State football rivalry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=El_Assico&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Please delete this redirect as it violates Wikipedia's policy on abusive or offensive redirects Carizona (talk) 06:20, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as creator. "El Assico" is a play on the "El Clásico" rivalry name that originates with an article from SB Nation. It has since been referenced by Every Day Should Be Saturday, Off Tackle Empire, Wide Right & Natty Lite, Black Heart Gold Pants, and elsewhere around the college football internet sphere. Notice that the last two blogs linked were Iowa State and Iowa blogs, respectively; the two teams constituting the rivalry. The name is not meant to be offensive and is not inherently so. It is simply a playful nickname that has caught on among certain fans (especially among fans of the teams involved), which makes it a useful redirect for this rivalry page. Ostealthy (talk) 06:49, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep and mention (with those sources) in the target article. I don't know much about football, but nothing about this seems wrong and there seems to be sufficient references to it online. --Pokechu22 (talk) 01:04, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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