Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 6

June 6
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 6, 2019.

Elmira-Corning, NY Combined Statistical Area
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Lack of any consensus for a retarget indicates deletion is the best result. RL0919 (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Elmira-Corning, NY Combined Statistical Area → Elmira, New York (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elmira-Corning,_NY_Combined_Statistical_Area&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Incorrect and not discussed at target. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 05:26, 4 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - I can't find that it was ever discussed at the target, it certainly wasn't when this redirect was created back in 2013, see here. Onel 5969  TT me 14:34, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: The Elmira-Corning, NY Combined Statistical Area is the correct United States Census Bureau title for Census Bureau CSA 236.  Yours aye,  Buaidh  talk contribs 21:11, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * But Elmira is not Census Bureau CSA 236. That's my point.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 20:39, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Buaidh's points. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 21:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment This is definitely a plausible search term, so deletion isn't ideal; but as noted by the nominator, the current target doesn't discuss the CSA, while Combined statistical area, Chemung County, New York and Steuben County, New York do mention it. Retargetting to Combined statistical area might be the best option (though few if any other CSA redirects have taken this route even where no clear target exists); keeping the current target (or rather, refining it to Elmira, New York) might work if relevant content is added there, but it would still be imperfect because Elmira is only a small part of the CSA. Sideways713 (talk) 16:22, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 02:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Combined statistical area, perhaps to a new anchor. Keeping just is not acceptable to me, because the Elmira MSA is one of two parts of the CSA, so we have an WP:XY problem. This might be a can of worms, though; I checked New Bern-Morehead City, NC Combined Statistical Area for example, right above Elmira-Corning in the list, and it redirects without mention to New Bern, North Carolina... --BDD (talk) 15:50, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Southern Tier, the region of New York state that covers both Elmira and Corning. Both cities are mentioned together several times there. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 02:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Unclear consensus for a while. What is the best retarget location?
 * Retarget per Tavix. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 17:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't remember the last time I encountered a statistical-area name that was redirected to one of the principle cities.  Standard practice for single-county statistical areas (whether metropolitan, like Ithaca, NY MSA, or micropolitan, like Rock Springs, WY μSA) is to redirect to the county, while standard practice for all CSAs (since by definition they're multi-county) and multi-county MSAs and μSAs is to create separate articles.  We don't have any articles that cover this region (the Southern Tier is seven or fourteen counties, far broader than this CSA); nothing that has been proposed is an appropriate target.  Deletion makes it obvious that we don't have an article on this topic.  Nyttend (talk) 18:47, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Nyttend. A redlink will encourage article creation.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to deletion, though as noted above, there are probably others that need the same treatment. --BDD (talk) 14:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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Bathroom plant
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Bathroom plant → Philodendron hederaceum (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bathroom_plant&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No indication that this is an alternate name for the target. signed,Rosguill talk 18:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. The term does not refer to any one particular plant. PC78 (talk) 23:06, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Rave Dubin
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Rave Dubin → Dave Rubin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rave_Dubin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Silly misspelling, I don't see it being very useful. signed,Rosguill talk 18:31, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. This is a parody twitter account meant to poke fun at Dave Rubin. I did find this YouTube video mentioning "Rave Dubin" but that was about it. I therefore don't think people are really likely to search for this term. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:40, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unless said parody warrants a mention in the article I don't see any value in having this redirect. PC78 (talk) 23:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is exceedingly insubstantial. There is no need to perpetuate mere silliness. Bus stop (talk) 04:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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United States Court of Appeals for the Zeroth Circuit
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Deryck C. 12:51, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * United States Court of Appeals for the Zeroth Circuit → United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Zeroth_Circuit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, I don't see any indication that this is a name that is used to refer to the court based on an internet search. signed,Rosguill talk 17:52, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, if this existed to any usable degree, I would have heard of it. I also find no reliable source making such a reference. The only book I found using such a name was not referring to the DC Circuit, but to a hypothetical nonexistent circuit for a moot court question. bd2412  T 19:06, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is analogous to things like Windows 9.  When you have a series of concepts known by numbers, and either you have a gap in the numbers or you have something known by a name, someone's going to wonder what happened to the missing number or what number the named item has.  Someone trying to find the DC Circuit by number will quickly see that there is no United States Court of Appeals for the Thirteenth Circuit, so it's reasonable to wonder if it's #0.  This is a good deal more relevant for the DC Circuit than for the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, in my opinion, since the latter isn't as widely known; you don't hear about high-profile lawsuits against acts of Congress being filed in the Federal Circuit like you do in the DC Circuit.  Nyttend (talk) 23:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I see where you're coming from, but this is just WP:MADEUP. See, where at least one of the two (!) results is still just drawing from Wikipedia data. --BDD (talk) 17:51, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete While this is analogous to other construction like it which have articles, those subjects have actual references. Qwirkle (talk) 02:47, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Just being formal about it—see my comment above. --BDD (talk) 14:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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Alliance of the Libertarian Left
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 25%23Alliance of the Libertarian Left

Horizontal Polka
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . kingboyk (talk) 18:25, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Horizontal Polka → Sexual intercourse (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Horizontal_Polka&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Slang/euphemism not mentioned at target. A couple (probably non-notable) songs use this phrase as a title. Delete or disambiguate. Plantdrew (talk) 05:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete unless it's the name of a popular song, but then the redirect would likely already be an article. — Paleo  Neonate  – 07:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment. Not sure since it's slang for the act and redirects are cheap. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 09:37, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary. Not mentioned at the target article here and shouldn't be. It's a real term, but there must be 60 million slang terms and euphemisms for this act; we can't list them all or they would overwhelm the target article. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:15, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect This term is not mentioned in the target article. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 05:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --kingboyk (talk) 16:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete Adding slang, especially sexual slang or other particularly volatile, ephemeral forms, is a Fool's errand. This is for dictionaries, not encyclopedias. Qwirkle (talk) 17:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Linking to Fool's errand for convenience. Geolodus (talk) 18:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. We don't need redirects, soft or otherwise, for non-encyclopaedic slang. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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