Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 8

June 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 8, 2019.

Photo finishing
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New York Rangers.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


 * New York Rangers. → New York Rangers (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_York_Rangers.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo, no hits since creation (although the pageviews page was acting a bit buggy so it may have loaded improperly). signed,Rosguill talk 22:07, 8 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Pointless noise. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 14:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unhelpful. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:43, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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Queen of Poland
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The Fifth Season (EP)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:23, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The Fifth Season (EP) → The Fifth Season (Oh My Girl album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fifth_Season_(EP)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Target is not an EP. PC78 (talk) 21:42, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That is to say, there is an album titled The Fifth Season with a song named "The Fifth Season" which was also released as a single, but apparently no EP (although there is an EP with this title by a seemingly non-notable band called Tragic Seasons ). The question is, do we nontheless regard the definition of an EP as sufficiently ambiguous to justify keeping the redirect? PC78 (talk) 17:48, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete I just don't see any reason to keep here. I'm much more forgiving of (album) → (EP) redirects, since (album) is much more standard, and "EP" doesn't mean much these days. But since this album is way off the definition of an extended play and since there is an unrelated EP by this name, definitely delete. (That the other EP is non-notable doesn't mean users won't search for it, and redirecting it here will just confuse them.) --BDD (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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Manshiro
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Deryck C. 13:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Manshiro → List of My-HiME characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manshiro&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

According to the Fandom wiki, this is "a nickname given by fans of the series" to a particular character. It should not be a redirect. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 04:19, 1 June 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Flat list
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Flat list → List (abstract data type) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flat_list&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not included in given target. See WP:R. Hildeoc (talk) 19:46, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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Eden (2014 Spanish film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:57, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Eden (2014 Spanish film) → Eden (2015 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eden_(2014_Spanish_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Eden (2014 spanish film)">Eden (2014 spanish film) → Eden (2015 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eden_(2014_spanish_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The film is neither a 2014 nor a Spanish film. © Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 19:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)


 * According to IMDb it was a Spanish/American/Malaysian film, and it was released in Belgium in 2014. PC78 (talk) 19:52, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Refer to Citing IMDb. © Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 18:09, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't see how that applies here. I'm only taking that info at face value, it's not automatically false just because it's on IMDb. Since you raissed the RfD, it's on you to support your argument. PC78 (talk) 20:37, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You should add Eden (2014 spanish film) to this nom. The 2014 release date on IMDb appears to be erroneous and probably refers to Eden (2014 film) per . Maybe the redirects are meant to refer to that fim instead? Though it doesn't appear to be Spanish. PC78 (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * In fact it is, WP:TERTIARY sources are hardly reliable. Also refer to WP:RS/IMDB. And no, it is not my job to support my argument. The article never mentions a) being a 2014 film, b) being a Spanish film (other than in categorization left before the current title was adopted), c) being, and I cite you, "a Spanish/American/Malaysian film [that] was released in Belgium in 2014." It is, on the opposite, the job of anyone that supports it from being deleted to prove that Eden was released in 2014 and was produced by Spaniards. © Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 22:28, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The decision to delete something should be based on evidence, not the vague assertions of the nominator, so yes, it absolutely is your job to support your own argument. And yet you give no indication that you've looked beyond the article, which is of course a tertiary source itself. I have looked and while I can't find anything definitive regarding the films nationality, various sites including Mubi and the Danish Film Institute  list this as Spanish so I'm happy to take this on faith. Per my above comment I don't believe the film was released in 2014 (though bear in mind that other sites will date the film by year of production) so it's a weak delete from me. I'll also add the other redirect if you're not going to. PC78 (talk) 00:23, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't, just stop. Oh, the irony... "The decision to delete something should be based on evidence, not the vague assertions of the nominator", yet, you do that on your own nominations. I don't know what's going on with you and if you have something against me, but this is like the 3rd time you behave like this with me. I am politely asking you to comment on the subject of the nominations I do, and not on what I should do. © Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 01:06, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Well I had stopped, but apparently I must now reassure you that anything "personal" is strictly imagined on your part. If you feel there's anything further to say then I'd appreciate you doing so on my talk page, but please, let's try to assume a little more good faith going forward. PC78 (talk) 17:33, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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C.F. Hanon
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Junior professor
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Mordhaus
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Deryck C. 13:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Mordhaus → Dethklok (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mordhaus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Mordhaus" is not mentioned at the target, and is potentially ambiguous. This redirect may cause confusion and should be deleted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:33, 1 June 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Template:Sports rbr table
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Sports rbr table → Module:Sports rbr table (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sports_rbr_table&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Given that Template:Sports rbr table/styles.css was just moved to Module:Sports rbr table/styles.css by me, the original reason for the creation of this redirect no longer exists. Template to module redirects are confusing, as calling one produces a dump of the code of the module, rather than invoking the module as might be expected. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 14:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 08:15, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 08:16, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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List of songs recorded by Florence and the Machine
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural keep as this is no longer a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 15:19, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * List of songs recorded by Florence and the Machine → Florence and the Machine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_songs_recorded_by_Florence_and_the_Machine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target does not currently contain a list of songs. feminist (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Florence and the Machine discography may be a better target. - Eureka Lott 15:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - I created this redirect, and I agree, just redirect to the discography page. Redirect could easily be expanded into list of songs by the group just like there are similar lists for many other recording artists. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Retargeting to the discography article makes sense to me too. — 🦊 23:41, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Someone searching this would be looking for a list along the lines of those in Category:Lists of songs by recording artists. It's misleading to send readers to a place that does not have a list like that, and the discography article does not contain a list of songs recorded either. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:03, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Leaning towards delete per Tavix. It's simply not necessary to have this as a placeholder for an unwritten article. PC78 (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ...although obviously keep if (or someone else) is going to turn this into an article. PC78 (talk) 21:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget. If we have an article about "X discography", how is "List of songs recorded by X" not a plausible redirect?  Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ...because the discography does not contain a list of songs recorded. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * What is a musical group's discography except for songs that they recorded? I see live albums, for example; I can't understand how you could have a live album of your own work without it being something you recorded.  It looks like they play music; they're not merely songwriters.  Nyttend (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * A list of live albums is not a list of songs recorded. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:33, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This is silly. I've started expanding List of songs recorded by Florence and the Machine. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:20, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep because it's no longer a redirect. Nyttend (talk) 23:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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Justin Smollett
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