Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 18

March 18
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 18, 2019.

DJ Pone
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Birdy Nam Nam. (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 04:14, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * DJ Pone → Pone (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DJ_Pone&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect to a DAB page with no relevant entry. Called by Gringe, and User:DPL bot is complaining about the WP:INTDABLINK error. Delete, to encourage article creation if justified. Narky Blert (talk) 13:23, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Birdy Nam Nam as former member. He was also in some other bands but they don't have English Wikipedia articles. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:10, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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MBVT
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The discussion has established that the abbreviation "MBVT" is weakly associated with a few different topics and none of the articles discuss what this abbreviation stands for. Deryck C. 14:04, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * MBVT → Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MBVT&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

May be confused with Merchants Trust (mbvt.com) B dash (talk) 08:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CoolSkittle  (talk) 18:17, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment The primary topic for MBVT on google is overwhelmingly Merchant Bancshares, a name that is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 09:24, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Barring one ref leading to MBVT on Merchants Trust, there is nothing on the page. Even link that says Merchants Trust website points to a different url. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 04:58, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or create disambiguation page Merchants Bancshares and Merchants Trust do not seem to be related companies. http://investors.mbvt.com/CorporateProfile.aspx?iid=100353 is for Merchants Bancshares (which ostensibly refers to Merchants Bank of Vermont, which was acquired by Providence National Bank) and not Merchants Trust, whose url is https://www.merchantstrust.co.uk not mbvt.com as indicated in the single reference on its article that doesn't even load. Furthermore, it is not clear what significance MBVT has to the current target, Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station. Given these facts, it makes sense to either delete the redirect as it has an unclear meaning, or create a disambiguation page for the initials explaining these nuances (assuming they can be properly confirmed, which, frankly, is unlikely to be done properly). - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 07:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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Nobody Cares (One Direction song)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 27%23Nobody Cares (One Direction song)

Portal:Railways
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Portal:Trains. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:34, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:Railways → Portal:North American railways (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Railways&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I propose retaretting this to the broader Portal:Trains, which being global in scope is more likely to be what is being looked for, particularly as "Railroads" is a more common term than "Railways" in North America. The current target is included in the "Related portals" box at the bottom of the proposed target's main page. Thryduulf (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per WP:R. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. I would add that this redirect was left behind following a page move for globalization reasons. It's nice that you asked before changing the target, I don't anticipate your proposal being controversial. It's silly that anybody looking for a railway portal gets redirected to the North American one. – void  xor  00:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * '''Retarget per nom, for globalization purposes --Atomicdragon136 (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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2019 Venezuelan coup d'état
  Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 26%232019 Venezuelan coup d'état

Sinic
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to Sinic. Deryck C. 14:05, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Sinic → China (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sinic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not even listed in the article or talk page whatsoever. Goveganplease (talk) 13:37, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary. This is an adjective meaning "Chinese" or "influenced by Chinese (culture)", e.g. Sinic languages, Sinicization of Tibet, so the target is relevant but not actually useful. Another option would be to retarget to Sino (disambiguation) and add entries for "Sinic" there, but I'm initially less keen on that idea. Thryduulf (talk) 15:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Snowflake-in-Chief
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 26%23Snowflake-in-Chief

Professor Obama
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn  Thryduulf (talk) 15:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Professor Obama → Barack Obama (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Professor_Obama&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I've never heard him called by this name, in fact, there are multiple redirects to the Obama article that are questionable. Goveganplease (talk) 13:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep – He was a "professor" (senior lecturer) of constitutional law at the University of Chicago. See . - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 14:37, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I saw that after a bit of research, you can withdraw this nomination if you like. Goveganplease (talk) 15:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Psantora, this was his title at one point and it was briefly an issue in 2008 . Thryduulf (talk) 15:12, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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Korrek
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Deryck C. 14:05, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Korrek → Howard the Duck (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korrek&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No information about character in target article; only mentioned in namedrops. Page was recently deleted at AFD, with several voters specifically stating not to make it a redirect. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 05:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: To be accurate, the consensus was against redirecting the existing content and edit history to another article (rather than deleting those), but there was no comment on whether we should not have a free-standing redirect at all (at least, I am not aware that AFD as a process can mandate that no redirect should ever exist when the non-notable content has been deleted). BOZ (talk) 13:12, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - I added a little more context at the target article, so it is now more than just a namedrop. I did not knowingly copy or merge any content from the deleted article. BOZ (talk) 19:32, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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Cypriot conflict (1955–64)
<span id="Cypriot conflict (1955–64)"> <span id="Cypriot conflict (1955-64)"> <span id="Cyprus crisis (1955–64)"> <span id="Cyprus crisis (1955-64)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 26%23Cypriot conflict (1955–64)

The formalist vs substantivist debate
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 08:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


 * The formalist vs substantivist debate → Formalist–substantivist debate (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_formalist_vs_substantivist_debate&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Orphan and delete - Formalist–substantivist debate was created with this title, but it was moved because of WP:THE. The redirect should be deleted as well. Qzekrom 💬 theythem 00:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Delete. As per nominator's comments. --Omnipaedista (talk) 06:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per and the comment that there are numerous incomming links, which are likely from external as well as internal sources and we gain nothing by breaking them. Thryduulf (talk) 16:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf; I wouldn't consider this redirect harmful in any way, and Qzekrom didn't provide much particular reason for deleting it either. Also, "The" redirects to non-proper, but name-specific nouns (eg. The Phillippines, The Mona Lisa, The Great Purge) are rather common. Geolodus (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
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