Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 28

March 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 28, 2019.

Jaakko Saario
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Jaakko Saario → Esa Saario (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaakko_Saario&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

User:Jaakko.saario originally created the page Esa Saario under the wrong name Jaakko Saario, and later requested it to be moved to the correct name. This means that the page Jaakko Saario is now useless. Jaakko Saario and Esa Saario are different people, whether they are related I don't know, but that is not relevant here. Esa Saario is clearly notable but Jaakko Saario is not, and besides, I don't see why one person should redirect to another. All incoming links to this redirect are from Wikipedia's internal maintenance pages. Delete this. J I P &#124; Talk 20:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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List of people with the 100 longest marriages in the world ever known
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Not 100 anymore, since long. Extremely sexy (talk) 20:18, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * List of people with the 100 longest marriages in the world ever known → List of people with the longest marriages (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_with_the_100_longest_marriages_in_the_world_ever_known&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete natch, far too specific. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Titles of list articles shouldn't specify the exact number of items. That would be needless restriction. J I P  &#124; Talk 23:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment this is an, it was here for ~10 days in 2016 apparently following a talk page discussion. I think the relevant discussion is Talk:List of people with the longest marriages/Archive 2. Thryduulf (talk) 00:41, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Indeed so, but both user "Elmidae" and "JIP" are correct, therefore this redirect should be deleted in my opinion. Extremely sexy (talk) 01:09, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Question. When will a decision being made about this, please? Extremely sexy (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
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P:BOVT
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:51, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * P:BOVT → Portal:British Overseas Territories (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P:BOVT&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:PNS to a moribund portal that was recently replaced with an article redirect per MfD. Page views are almost zero. —  Scott  •  talk  14:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Additionally: this and the nomination below for have led me to look at Category:Redirects to portal space. There are 641 "P:" redirects. I suspect the vast majority of them will be unlinked and have negligible traffic. What's the best way to investigate? Previous en masse nominations of shortcuts have often floundered (I'm thinking of examples like this in 2010 which was specifically on the topic of redirects to portal space; there were also others around 2014 when this was a hot topic). —  Scott  •  talk  16:54, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment "P:" redirects to portals are specifically listed at WP:PNR, indicating that there is consensus for them to exist as a class. Main → Portal redirects are also explicitly excluded from WP:CSD. I would therefore strongly advise against a mass nomination of P: redirects without first having gained consensus to deprecate the pseudo-namespace. Thryduulf (talk) 00:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I know that and I'm not suggesting one, hence the comment above. —  Scott  •  talk  17:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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P:Freedom
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 5%23P:Freedom

Mistyped brackets
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete. These mistyped redirects are useless. J I P  &#124; Talk 23:09, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Bellavista (band( → Bellavista (band) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bellavista_(band(&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Fascell 9mango) → Fascell (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fascell_9mango)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Cold (band0 → Cold (band) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_(band0&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Vuk Karadžić (TV Series9 → Vuk Karadžić (TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vuk_Karad%C5%BEi%C4%87_(TV_Series9&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * John C. Daniels (Connecticut politician0 → John C. Daniels (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_C._Daniels_(Connecticut_politician0&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * No Sleep 9album) → No Sleep (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Sleep_9album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Tosh.)">Tosh.) → Tosh.0 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tosh.)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Wonderwall 9song)">Wonderwall 9song) → Wonderwall (song) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wonderwall_9song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete all. Mistyped brackets or numbers, not useful as search terms. No incoming links. PC78 (talk) 09:08, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete the whole lot. No one is ever going to search for the mistyped versions. J I P  &#124; Talk 20:38, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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Small intestine (better dab
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Small intestine (better dab">Small intestine (better dab → Small intestine (Chinese medicine) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Small_intestine_(better_dab&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Pretty sure this is just a mistake, a leftover redirect from a botched page move. PC78 (talk) 08:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete malformed modifier makes this an unlikely redirect -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:13, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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TEMA(Association)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 12:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="TEMA(Association)">TEMA(Association) → Turkish Foundation for Combating Soil Erosion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TEMA(Association)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Per WP:RDAB: missing a space. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect has long since fulfilled its 2009 stated purpose, to facilitate a move to an english language organization title. -- Paleorthid (talk) 18:30, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. No use in keeping a malformed redirect. PC78 (talk) 08:10, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:31, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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Bandari music
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 6%23Bandari music

Sydneians
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 6%23Sydneians

W/
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to w/. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 13:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="W/">W/ → With (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=W/&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Inspired by the nomination of Wiki/ down below. I'm wondering what we should do with this redirect. I don't think the current target makes sense, given that "w/" only means "with" in the plain English meaning of the term and none of the articles in the disambiguation deal with that. Should we delete it? Should we retarget it to Main Page as a likely mistake per below? King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:53, 19 March 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Only two participants, and while they largely agree in concept, they seem to differ as to the specific target
 * Keep or soft redirect to Wiktionary wikt:w/. Almost nobody is going to be helped by either deletion or retargetting this to the main page. Thryduulf (talk) 12:19, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary ( wikt:w wikt:w/ (see additional comment below)-PS-2019-04-02  ) per Thryduulf's comment above. Similar to wiki/ and wiki\ below, this could also be an accidental attempt to get to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php (the main page), but I think that is much more unlikely than either wiki/ or wiki\. Better to redirect to wiktionary (and barring that, with is still a better choice than deleting or redirecting to the main page as Thryduulf argued above). - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 21:28, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 03:07, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to wikt:w wikt:w/. The current target is incorrect as "w/" is an abbreviation of the word "with" but the article With is about things named "With", which is unrelated to the word "with". J I P  &#124; Talk 13:58, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I still think that wikt:w/ is the better target, as that matches what people who intentionally used the slash are searching for, and we should prioritise correct results over typos. Thryduulf (talk) 09:54, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right, that's a better idea. J I P  &#124; Talk 16:28, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I erred in my original comment and that error led to relist the discussion. My intended target for the soft direct to Wiktionary was wikt:w/ but I accidentally wrote out wikt:w. Sorry for the confusion and unnecessary discussion! I have amended my comment above to make this clear as well as referencing this new comment here. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 19:00, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification!  I probably still would have relisted, so no need to apologize! ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:11, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Noted. However, your attention to detail should be commended! - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 19:14, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Agree with "w/" per above. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Xero (U.S.A. band)
<span id="Xero (U.S.A. band)"> <span id="Xero (U.S. band)"> <span id="Xero (USA band)"> <span id="Xero (US band)"> <span id="Xero (American band)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 5%23Xero (U.S.A. band)

Obama's Birthday
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Barack Obama Day. King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Obama's Birthday → Barack Obama (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama%27s_Birthday&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not the focus of the section, possibly WP:COSTLY B dash (talk) 15:46, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. It starts with "Obama was born on August 4, 1961". Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:24, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Barack Obama Day. The redirect implies a holiday to me, in the same vein as a few entries in Category:Presidential birthdays in the United States. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 03:03, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Barack Obama Day per Tavix. His actual birthday is mentioned directly on that page as well. Furthermore, Barack Obama Day (about 2 separate holidays in the US - only one of which is Obama's birthday) and Obama Day (the Kenyan holiday) should probably be merged into a single article as well, though that is for a separate XfD. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 19:11, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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