Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 29

March 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 29, 2019.

Keep on Going (oto nemesazde)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . R3. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 08:36, 31 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep on Going (oto nemesazde) → Sul tsin iare (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keep_on_Going_(oto_nemesazde)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDAB, artist's name is misspelled since it should be capitalized. CycloneYoris talk! 21:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - There is no point in keeping it.BabbaQ (talk) 08:22, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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War looting
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * War looting → Looting (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_looting&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The section no longer exists, so this redirect is currently useless. Something should be done at this title, but I don't know what. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 20:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I think this is perfectly functional as a section-less redirect, since the lede makes clear that looting can occur in war. Refine to #In armed conflict if desired. --BDD (talk) 20:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep problem easily solved. jnestorius(talk) 15:05, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The anchor that was just made is the way to deal with problems like this. DGG ( talk ) 11:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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High Inquisitor
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 6%23High Inquisitor

St. Joseph High Road
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 6%23St. Joseph High Road

Echinops (genus)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 6%23Echinops (genus)

Female privilege
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Redirects tend to go where the best content is, so while that may change in the future, this is a keep. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Female privilege → Men's rights movement (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Female_privilege&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems like a misleading redirect to me. This is something that has been discussed before about three and a half years ago (see below), but it shouldn't be news to anyone that discussions in this area have only grown in scale since then.

I see this redirect as problematic because the article on "Men's rights movement" writes itself off almost immediately as anti-feminist, hateful, and violent. While I agree with that sentiment, it implies that female privilege should be written off in the same breath as men's rights movements. The section on "female privilege" in that article writes it off as incompatible with male privilege, however I don't believe this to be true. Males and female are each privileged in their own ways, and these privileges are not all mutually exclusive (in other words, it is irrelevant who is "more privileged"). Female privilege exists alongside male privilege, and is compatible with feminism. It is not a concept exclusive to men's rights movements.

Men's rights movement also argues that "female privilege" is a form of benevolent sexism, which while true in many cases, does not account for all aspects of perceived female privilege.

In summary: My issue is with the placement of where, and context in which, "Female privilege" currently exists on Wikipedia. It is currently just a subsection of Men's rights movement, where it doesn't seem to fit in with its surrounding subsections at all.

I propose that it redirect to a new section in Social privilege, Male privilege, or Ambivalent sexism which addresses female privilege (I assume there are not enough scholarly sources on "female privilege" to warrant its own article, though I may be wrong in which case a full article may want to be created), while Men's rights movement is renamed to something more fitting or is deleted entirely.

24.187.209.35 (talk) 12:52, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment my first impression is that this nomination is backwards - you should be discussing at an appropriate talk page (article or wikiproject) about improving the coverage of this topic, either at this title or somewhere else and then discussing retargetting the redirect to wherever the improved coverage is. Thryduulf (talk) 17:25, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Understood. I just wasn't sure of the proper channels to go through. I started a conversation on WikiProject Gender Studies. I think it would be best to table this discussion until a concensus is reached over there. 24.187.209.35 (talk) 19:52, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RPURPOSE ("Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article"). None of the suggested targets discuss the concept of "female privilege". The only place on Wikipedia that currently does so to any significant extent is the current target Men's rights movement. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 19:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC) (edited 05:55, 30 March 2019 (UTC))
 * Keep. It's there similar to heterophobia being a redirect and section in the Homophobia article. In both cases, they are WP:Fringe topics that should simply be noted and redirected to the main related article. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:54, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Chris Collins(Politician)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Chris Collins(Politician)">Chris Collins(Politician) → Chris Collins (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Collins(Politician)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Malformed DAB redirect. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep we don't usually delete redirects resulting from page moves, unless there's some particular reason why the redirect is inappropriate.  Hut 8.5  22:29, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The reason redirects from page moves are kept is because we don't want to break external links to the page. So if you move something from James Poliot to James E. Poliot, deleting James Poliot is bad since links may have been made to James Poliot. This does not apply in the case of badly formed titles that existed for 6 minutes, and which no longer point to the page they used to point to. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:35, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: At the very least, it appears it should be renamed/moved to include a space between the surname and the opening parenthesis. <span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;background-color:#fff;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;"> B.Rossow ·  talk  13:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * We already have Chris Collins (politician) → Chris Collins Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:12, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * My bad. I was looking for it with "politician" capitalized as in the redirect in question. <span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;background-color:#fff;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;"> B.Rossow ·  talk  17:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete; didn't exist for long enough to plausibly have incoming external links. —  Scott  •  talk  14:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Basically this redirect exists because somebody started a page at the wrong title back in 2007. Since this is an incomplete disambiguation anyway (its target changed from the Chris Collins of New Brunswick to the disambiguation page in 2012), I don't see much utility in keeping it. Deryck C. 10:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 03:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. No use in keeping a malformed redirect, especially when the correctly titled Chris Collins (politician) already exists. PC78 (talk) 08:09, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. No potential usefulness. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:14, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete since properly formed redirect exists and is more useful -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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User:GregLowenthal11/Fuse (song)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 04:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="User:GregLowenthal11/Fuse (song)">User:GregLowenthal11/Fuse (song) → Linkin Park (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:GregLowenthal11/Fuse_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be an old draft of a song from Linkin Park created by a user no longer editing the encyclopedia. Goveganplease (talk) 02:08, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Don't really see a reason to delete. If GregLowenthal11 returns, they'd likely want to know where their work is now located at. That said is the one that redirected, so they might be able to shed some light here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Convert to soft redirect so it won't be an XNR but we preserve the value of this redirect for User:GregLowenthal11. Deryck C. 11:20, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Headbomb - there is no reason to delete. User subpage → main redirects do not cause any problems in >99% of cases and there is no evidence this is an exception. Thryduulf (talk) 09:49, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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Chainmail bikini
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 7%23Chainmail bikini

5K Celebration
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * 5K Celebration → IGN (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=5K_Celebration&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No such mention at the target. Such a celebration is not exclusive to one company. Jalen D. Folf  (talk)  02:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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Harry Potter (TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Harry Potter (TV series)">Harry Potter (TV series) → IGN (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_(TV_series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. No such TV series exists and is unlikely to exist. Jalen D. Folf  (talk)  02:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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The Aurors
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ministry of Magic. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The Aurors → IGN (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Aurors&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, yet it's mentioned at so many other Harry Potter-related articles that a suitable target seems ambiguous. Jalen D. Folf  (talk)  02:38, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ministry of Magic, and tag . --BDD (talk) 19:02, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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The Games Community Board
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:01, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The Games Community Board → IGN (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Games_Community_Board&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. What is this even supposed to mean anyway? Jalen D. Folf  (talk)  02:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete this was created as an article which started "The Games Community Board or "The GCB" as called by it's members is one of the many boards on the IGN Boards.", which explains the connection to the target but there is no information about it in the target article so it isn't a useful redirect. Normally I wouldn't be advocating deletion of article content here - it was boldly converted to a redirect on the day of creation in 2006 by ESkog - but it was an unsourced sub-stub that would be speedily deleted today (A7) as it gives almost no information at all but does include what might be a BLP-violation. Thryduulf (talk) 21:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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