Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 14

May 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 14, 2019.

União do Parque Acari
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per G5. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * União do Parque Acari → Rio Carnival (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uni%C3%A3o_do_Parque_Acari&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target, the title refers to a specific samba school (Portuguese wiki here) signed,Rosguill talk 20:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I've filed an SPI at Sockpuppet investigations/Biantez. It can probably be G5'd once resolved. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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Forever Goop
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Forever Goop → Embalming chemicals (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Forever_Goop&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I assume this is intended to be either a nickname for embalming fluid or a brand name, but I can't find mention in the article and failed to find mentions of it searching online. signed,Rosguill talk 19:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom I'm seeing quite a few colocations when googling for "Forever goop", but most of those seem to be about financial investment with a handful for a graphic novel and a beauty product (for the living). "Supergoop" seems to be a product by "Forever young" but (a) that seems to be either hand cream or possibly sun tan lotion, definitely not embalming fluid, and (b) almost certainly isn't close enough to "forever goop" to be relevant. Restricting the search to "embalming" brings up only one hit, which seems to be a (probably copyright violating) copy of the Stephen King novel Pet Sematary. Google Groups and even Urban Dictionary come up blank on the phrase. Thryduulf (talk) 21:47, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom WP:NOTNEO. Was expecting to see some kind of product but no such thing.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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H:A
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 05:35, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * H:A → Help:About help pages (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:A&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:B → Help:I have been blocked (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:B&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:D → Help:Directory (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:D&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:E → Help:Editing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:E&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:G → Help:Gallery tag (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:G&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:H → Help:Contents (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:H&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:L → Help:Link (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:L&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:N → Help:Navigation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:N&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:P → Help:Preferences (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:P&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:Q → Wikipedia:Questions (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:Q&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:R → Help:Redirect (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:R&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:S → Help:Searching (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:S&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:T → Help:Template (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:T&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * H:W → Help:Watchlist (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:W&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Similar to the single-letter P: redirects discussed in Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_11, these H: pseudo-namespace redirects are ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unlike those Portal shortcuts which make little sense going to seemingly random portals, these are helpful shortcuts and are used similarly to those in the Wikipedia namespace. In particular, it appears H:L and H:S are well used from a glance. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:53, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix. H:R and H:T have received over 1000 views so far this year. H:H got over 18,000 hits last year (although views plumeted at the end of January this year, so I guess it was unlinked from somewhere, but it remains in use). I haven't looked at all of them, but ambiguity in shortcut redirects is not a problem. Thryduulf (talk) 19:40, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep all - These shortcuts are used way more often than the portal shortcuts. What's next, A–Z (which would be an even worse nomination, incase my sarcasm isn't clear)? - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 19:46, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The H: are not in the same deletion category as the P:. The reasons for deletion of H: would need to exist here, be well researched and articulated, and better than ever before. &mdash;  Cp i r al &sect; Cpiral  20:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Trust me, I did do that work. Isn't it more likely to think H:A refers to Help:Arabic or Help:Array, rather then the current target (for which I would instead expect the not-yet-but-I'm-sure-will-be-soon-created H:AHP)? And for H:B to refer to Help:Barchart or Help:Books? And for H:D to be just as likely to refer to Help:Diff of Help:Disambiguation? And so on, and so on. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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Apple products
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate.  --BDD (talk) 19:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Apple products → Timeline of Apple Inc. products (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Apple_products&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Category:Apple products refers to an entirely different thing. Retarget or disambiguate? feminist (talk) 09:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Apple with a hatnote. We also have List of apple dishes but there are a small number of non-culinary uses described in the main article. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Dismbig, as the technology company's products are clearly the primary topic, but the fruit products are a very plausible search term. I'm not certain the latter should be restricted to products consumed by humans though so I weakly oppose Ivanvector's suggested retarget. Thryduulf (talk) 07:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Tavix Thryduulf . There are at least 3 entries that would belong (admitedly, in the "see also" section) on the page: Timeline of Apple Inc. products, Apple, List of apple dishes. A hatnote does not suffice. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 19:46, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you perhaps mean per me? Tavix hasn't opined in this discussion (they just relisted it). Thryduulf (talk) 21:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Gah... Yes. That is what I get for quickly scanning the source instead of properly replying to each section. My apologies to you both. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 21:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate among the 3 options, per the above. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)!
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Ryoga's Sense of Direction
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 19:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Ryoga's Sense of Direction → List of Ranma ½ characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryoga%27s_Sense_of_Direction&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A relic from 2005 when almost every junk article was turned into a redirect instead of being deleted. This is a common character trait that isn't remotely notable in its own right. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment their sense of direction is very prominently in the section about them (List of Ranma ½ characters). Sense of direction is not mentioned in the articles about the other two people listed at the Ryoga disambig. Thryduulf (talk) 12:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as not a media title (why is it in caps?), and not needing a redirect for a character attribute AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. As AW just said, the combination of bad capitalization and our not redirecting from attributes (Bart's yellow skin, anyone?) is fatal. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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Canada International Film Festival
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 05:35, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Canada International Film Festival → Edgewater Casino (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada_International_Film_Festival&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think the creation of this redirect is at odds with the outcome of this AfD. Yes the AfD was for an article and not a redirect, but the very strong consensus of that discussion established that it is harmful to give undue publicity to this film festival. signed,Rosguill talk 07:16, 29 April 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - This is just a redirect. There are a lot of links to Canada International Film Festival and it's referenced by other credible and notable websites etc. Karl Twist (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It should be a and maybe some other Rcat, because the target isn't obvious. For the New York International Independent Film and Video Festival I found a nicer solution some weeks ago. –84.46.53.51 (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 09:12, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of film festivals in Canada. By all accounts this is a rather small festival (compared to, say, TIFF) so redirecting to a list of more notable Canadian film festivals seems like it would better serve readers. It also covers partial title disambiguation for more notable titles like the Canadian Labour International Film Festival, the Canadian Film Festival, Canadian International Comedy Film Festival, Hot Docs Canadian International Documentary Festival, Canada China International Film Festival, and several others. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:32, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. The section where the redirect is pointing has a small blurb on the event as it relates to the casino. The casino is now closed and the event no longer has a physical presence AFAICT so the connection will become more tenuous in the future. I oppose retargeting it to a place that has no information on the event, such as List of film festivals in Canada. That would only serve to confuse or mislead those looking for information on this particular event, not other events that happen to have sort-of similar names. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:59, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * We could add something about it to the list. Then it would serve both purposes. There are many redlinked and presumably non-notable festivals listed there already. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The current target would have more information even if it is added due to the way the list is set-up. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:05, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment, remember that the festival was held at the Edgewater Casino in downtown Vancouver from 2009 to 2016. Karl Twist (talk) 10:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment if it stays at the casino, it should have a hatnote to go to the List of film festivals in Canada in case people are looking for Canadian film festivals in general. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:31, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Karl Twist. I just don't see a problem with this, certainly not giving "publicity" to a defunct casino. If the festival is ever revived, different treatment may be appropriate. --BDD (talk) 19:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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Ally Parker
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 19:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Ally Parker → That's So Raven (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ally_Parker&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Minor character (?) that is not mentioned at the target article and has no coverage besides a mention in the article of the actress who plays her. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 06:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete news searches point to a high school pole vaulter, a mom whose daughter died .  Also a wrestler named Allie Parker. Not really close to the two people who went by Alison Parker as they did not go by that nickname.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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