Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 26

May 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 26, 2019.

DWGW
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:05, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * DWGW → Intercontinental Broadcasting Corporation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DWGW&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, unclear what this initialism refers to. signed,Rosguill talk 19:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Based on User:Bluemask/Operating radio stations in the Philippines by region and province as of December 2010 DWGW 684 is/was a radio station operated by the target. As it's not mentioned there though it's not a useful redirect to that. A couple of acronym finders claim this is used to mean "Drinking Water Ground Water" (or Groundwater) but I can't find any verification that this is an actual phrase in use anywhere, and certainly it isn't on Wikipedia. The only other prominent use is the username of a person on Twitter and a hashtag on Instagram (I haven't investigated whether they relate to the same person), but there is no evidence either of these is notable. Thryduulf (talk) 21:07, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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Hypertetrahedron
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:05, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hypertetrahedron → 5-cell (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hypertetrahedron&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't appear to refer to the same thing, not mentioned in the target. signed,Rosguill talk 19:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete In a search I found only one reference to a hypertetrahedron and it doesn't appear to be the same thing. Better we not have anything than a redirect to the wrong thing. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Actually that reference says "Other names are simplex or pentatope", and the article 5-cell says "also known as a ... pentatope ..." so they might be the same. But I don't think the ref is RS, so in the absense of an expert opinion or a reliable source, I agree Delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:55, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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Melissa Petersen
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 5%23Melissa Petersen

Greco-Chinese War
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:35, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Greco-Chinese War → War of the Heavenly Horses (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greco-Chinese_War&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why this would be an appropriate title for the war, which was between the Han and Dayuan. The article only mentions Greek/Greco- (or any other derivation of the word) in connection to an image of the Sampul tapestry included in the article, but whose connection to the rest of the article's content is unclear. signed,Rosguill talk 19:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC) As pointed out, it appears in a video, a blog, and many other posts, so those who are more curious about the event would remember it as the 'Greco-Chinese' war and will need that term as an anchor if they wish to read the wikipedia articles on it. It has already been successfully advertised as such. It is also more memorable and contains many grains of truth to it. The Dayuan are the inheritors of the Greco-Bactrian kingdom and absorbed some Greek cultures and may have employed some Greek descendants in battle.
 * Delete – there was no Greco-Chinese War. The name "Greco-Chinese war" was sourced to a blog and Youtube video.  However, the Greco-Bactrian kingdom had lost Dayuan (Ferghana valley) to the Saka some 60 years before the Chinese expedition reached the valley.  The kingdom itself, in Bactria (Daxia), had fallen 20 years before the expedition.  Kanguole 21:22, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not appear to refer to this war. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:34, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayuan

To quote from this article: 'These Chinese accounts describe the Dayuan as urbanized dwellers with Caucasian features, living in walled cities and having "customs identical to those of the Greco-Bactrians", a Hellenistic kingdom that was ruling Bactria at that time in today's northern Afghanistan. The Dayuan are also described as manufacturers and great lovers of wine.[1]

The Dayuan were the descendants of the Greek colonists that were settled by Alexander the Great in Ferghana in 329 BCE (see Alexandria Eschate), and had prospered within the Hellenistic realm of the Seleucids and Greco-Bactrians, until they were isolated by the migrations of the Yuezhi around 160 BCE. It appears that the name "Yuan" was simply a transliteration of Sanskrit Yavana or Pali Yona, used throughout antiquity in Asia to designate Greeks ("Ionians"), so that Dayuan would mean "Great Ionians" or "Great Greeks".'

Based on this, the Dayuan were essentially as Greek as you could get.

The Chinese article refers to it as 'Dayuan' and to the war as the 'Han-Dayuan war' (汉攻大宛之战) so if anything Han-Dayuan would be the most accurate term. A redirect has already been created. But a number of links already point to Greco-Chinese war, and if deleted it would be quite painful to fix all of it, so in the end it is more convenient to retain that page. Alexkyoung (talk) 03:56, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Unreliable sources (per WP:BLOGS, followed by an argument that's basically just original research. Find me even one RS that refers to this war as a Greco-Chinese war and I'll vote keep. signed,Rosguill talk 04:24, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: What Links Here shows only 5 real links, all added within the last month, which can easily be removed. Blogs and videos are not proper sources when there are published books. The Greco-Bactrian kingdoms had a Greek ruling class which had been replaced by this time.Benjamin Trovato (talk)
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Swiss American Aircraft Corporation 23
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Swiss American Aircraft Corporation 23 → Learjet 23 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Swiss_American_Aircraft_Corporation_23&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from an implausible search term that was created as an alternative to deletion for a fork. The redirect hasn't seen any use since it was created, and I would suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 18:48, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, and also delete its twin Swiss American Aircraft Corporation-23. However, we should create a redirect from Swiss American Aircraft Corporation to Learjet, because that was a former name for Learjet and is so described in the lead. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:38, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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Eurasian race groups
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 7%23Eurasian race groups

Wikipedia:Virtual assistant
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 19:17, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Virtual assistant → Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Virtual_assistant&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:Wikipe-tan is not a virtual assistant as this redirect implies. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 18:17, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete agree. Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊  01:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly we aren't there yet in terms of technology and Wikipedia. That being said, I would love for Wikipe-tan to help me edit the article about Moe. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:18, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We also apparently have not project-space pages related to virtual assistants. Thryduulf (talk) 19:37, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Chatbot
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:17, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Chatbot → Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Chatbot&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no connection between chatbots and WP:wikipe-tan — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 18:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as is simply not at target. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:39, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Incorrect redirect. Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊  01:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There appear to be no project space discussions/proposals/policies/etc about chatbots to retarget this to, the closest being a suggestion that a comment by user:Elen of the Roads in this 2009 AfD that one !vote was written by a chatbot (and I can certainly see why!). Thryduulf (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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Scabers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Fixed the two uses ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:17, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Scabers → Death Eater (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scabers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a misspelling of "Scabbers", which would normally be fine, but scabers are actually a feature of certain mushroom species. There's no real coverage of them besides a mention in a few different species articles. A retarget to Glossary of botanical terms might be an option, but I think a redlink would be even better. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 12:20, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 11:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect might cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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Suicidal
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 5%23Suicidal

Voter registration campaign
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 7%23Voter registration campaign

We live in a society
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:03, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * We live in a society → The Dark Knight (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=We_live_in_a_society&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yes I know the meme, but the target doesn't actually say anything about it and would likely only leave people confused. signed,Rosguill talk 00:05, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as not mentioned in the film article or Joker (The Dark Knight) as a major catchphrase. Also a commonly used phrase by many notable people so it would not be primary topic.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Not mentioned in the target article; this seems to be a meme used by many people to put across different messages. Maybe someday it will get its own article. In the meantime, it's not a valid redirect. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:06, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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 * Clearly the more appropriate target is The Chinese Restaurant ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 19:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Haddonfield High School (Halloween)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:03, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Haddonfield High School (Halloween)">Haddonfield High School (Halloween) → Halloween (franchise) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haddonfield_High_School_(Halloween)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While some of the events of the Halloween series take place in the high school of the fictional town of Haddonfield, virtually no content in the article actually discusses the high school. signed,Rosguill talk 00:01, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete unless there was a particular movie or two that took place mainly at the high school, this isn't really helpful. Otherwise you could create Haddonfield Police Department and other fictional town landmarks. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:15, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above points. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:42, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete We have a redirect from Haddonfield, Illinois which should cover the situation. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:12, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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Harrison Park High School
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:03, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Harrison Park High School → Reviving Ophelia (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harrison_Park_High_School&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, I don't see a reason for this redirect to exist. signed,Rosguill talk 00:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as not mentioned and would confuse folks looking for real schools in Harrison Park. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:19, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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