Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 23

October 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 23, 2019.

Root eating
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 5%23Root eating

Beluj (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . There's consensus to treat this as a WP:TWODABS situation. --BDD (talk) 16:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Beluj (disambiguation) → Beluj (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beluj_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Beluj used to be a DAB page with 2 items: Beluch (also a DAB page) - none of the articles on that page mention Beluj; and Beluj (village). I have redirected Beluj to Beluj (village), so there is no longer a need for the redirect. Leschnei (talk) 00:08, 15 October 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * WP:CSD . --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:26, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I've restored the dab page at Beluj: this is an alternative spelling of "Baloch" that is sometimes encountered in the literature. I don't believe there's a primary topic. – Uanfala (talk) 12:08, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: The target disambiguation page has been restored, making this a useful redirect per Disambiguation. Geolodus (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Inclined to say delete and re-redirect Beluj (or better still, move Beluj, Slovakia to the base title); the alt spelling of "Baloch" can be better handled with a hatnote. PC78 (talk) 18:14, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, move per WP:PRECISE, and hatnote per PC78. The village seems to be the only full title match in other language Wikipedias. Narky Blert (talk) 13:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is: the Cyrillic equivalent of "Beluj" is where the corresponding Baloch people article is found on the Russian, Ukrainian, and related wikipedias. – Uanfala (talk) 20:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What's the Cyrillic equivalent of 'j'? It could be either 'ж' or 'ӣ' at least. One is a consonant and one is a vowel. Narky Blert (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and move Beluj, Slovakia over the current page Beluj, per Narky and PC78. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:24, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

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Dong Son, Bac Giang
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  the first to Dong Son, delete the other two. --BDD (talk) 16:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Dong Son, Bac Giang → Đông Sơn, Bắc Giang (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dong_Son,_Bac_Giang&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Dong Son, Bắc Giang → Đông Sơn, Bắc Giang (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dong_Son,_B%E1%BA%AFc_Giang&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Dĩnh Tri → Dĩnh Trì (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=D%C4%A9nh_Tri&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The first two are invalid, since they can either refer to Đông Sơn, Bắc Giang or Đồng Sơn, Bắc Giang. The third one is an incorrect spelling Cn5900 (talk) 22:06, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate (struck: see below) Dong Son, Bac Giang. Retaining a romanized version is a good way to ensure usability. - Eureka Lott 23:32, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate the first two; keep the third. Vietnamese names can be a real problem for people with Western keyboards, and we shouldn't penalise readers who've got one or more diacritical marks wrong. Dong Son, Bac Giang is an excellent example: it took me a moment or two to work out the difference between Đông Sơn, Bắc Giang and Đồng Sơn, Bắc Giang. Narky Blert (talk) 02:41, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate Dong Son, Bac Giang only, as a plausible search term & navigational for those who cannot type Vietnamese diacritics. Delete Dong Son, Bắc Giang and Dĩnh Tri per the strong consensus at Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 September 21 that half-diacritic/half-diacriticless redirects are implausible search terms. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all:, there's no need to disambiguate anything here. Since we already had the disambiugation page Dong Son, which is an even more detailed page and with a clear topic 153.18.172.42 (talk) 18:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for expanding that disambiguation page. It would be wise to retarget Dong Son, Bac Giang there as a r from incomplete disambiguation and a r to diacritic. - Eureka Lott 13:41, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment is it the standard practice to treat comma-disambiguated terms as R from incomplete disambiguation instead of disambiguating them separately? (I ask because the only other example I know off the top of my head is Elmhurst, New York, which is a disambiguation page.) 59.149.124.29 (talk) 14:05, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. The New York communities are disambiguated at Elmhurst, as well as Elmhurst, New York. The same goes for Oakwood and Oakwood, Ohio, and Jefferson Township and Jefferson Township, Indiana, and so on. I'd be fine with having Dong Son, Bac Giang as a disambiguation page or a redirect. - Eureka Lott 16:05, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It is very common indeed to have comma-disambiguated DAB pages in addition to the main DAB page. Other examples, from the first 500 of today's edition of User:DPL bot's Disambiguation pages with links, include Apple Grove, West Virginia, Barre, Vermont and Bedford, New York. Other examples include the many DAB pages called (in general form) Placename, Iran. This is not the place to discuss whether such DAB pages are a good idea. (IMO sometimes yes, sometimes no). Narky Blert (talk) 21:14, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget Dong Son, Bac Giang to disambiguation page at Dong Son; delete the other two per precedents that part-correct part-wrong diacritic titles are unhelpful. Deryck C. 18:51, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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Salahuddin (Bagram captive)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Salahuddin (Bagram captive) → Yunus Rahmatullah (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Salahuddin_(Bagram_captive)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is not clear why this redirect goes here. "Salahuddin" or other variant forms is not mentioned in the article or the other relevant article Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs v Rahmatullah. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The Rendition Project lists this as an alias of Rahmatullah. If it's a reliable source, that could be added to the article. I don't know how likely a search term this would be, though. --BDD (talk) 13:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I've gone ahead and added it. I don't know how reliable the source is, but it seems sufficient for simply verifying that this is an alias. --BDD (talk) 16:14, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep If Salahuddin is an actual alias of Rahmatullah, then this redirect is a valid R from another name. Not a very active user (talk) 17:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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Ninh Thuận, Bạc Liêu
<span id="Ninh Thuận, Bạc Liêu"> <span id="Ninh Lợi ‎"> <span id="Vĩnh Trung, Bạc Liêu"> <span id="Phong Dân ‎"> <span id="Phong Hiệp"> <span id="Phước Tây"> <span id="Đông Phú, Bạc Liêu"> <span id="Dong Phu, Bac Lieu"> <span id="Ninh Loi ‎"> <span id="Ninh Thuan, Bac Lieu"> <span id="Phong Dan ‎"> <span id="Phuoc Tay ‎">  <span id="Vinh Trung, Bac Lieu ‎"> <span id="Vĩnh Hiếu"> <span id="Lộc Ninh B">   <span id="Ninh Quới B"> <span id="Lộc Ninh A"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 6%23Ninh Thuận, Bạc Liêu

Steppin' on to the Scene
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Steppin' on to the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steppin%27_on_to_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Steppin' On to the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steppin%27_On_to_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Steppin' On To the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steppin%27_On_To_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Steppin' OnTo The Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steppin%27_OnTo_The_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Steppin' Onto the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steppin%27_Onto_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping Onto the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_Onto_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping on to the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_on_to_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping On to the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_On_to_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping On To the Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_On_To_the_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping On To The Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_On_To_The_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping OnTo The Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_OnTo_The_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Stepping Onto The Scene → Eminem (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stepping_Onto_The_Scene&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. Mysticair667537 (talk) 16:20, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete this was leftover stuff from Soul Intent / Basemint Productions which are mentioned in Eminem's article, but not this particular album. This could go to Bass Brothers but that album is not mentioned there either.  Appears to be unofficial according to its discogs entry.   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:26, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete If it's not mentioned at the target page, then a reader searching for it will learn nothing about it, making the redirect useless and confusing. Not a very active user (talk) 16:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipede
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipede → meta:Wikipede (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipede&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be an unnecessary crosswiki redirect; it goes to an archived page on the meta: wiki that isn't notable. Kirbanzo (userpage - talk - contribs) 13:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. I don't see any justification for this. PC78 (talk) 13:49, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep it is a soft redirect created by me. Also, it is harmless. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 05:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And how is that a reason to keep it? Saying a page/redirect/etc. is good because you created it is not exactly a valid point in a discussion on the fate of it. Kirbanzo (userpage - talk - contribs) 22:01, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * According to WP:SRD, "A soft redirect is a replacement of usual or "hard" redirects and is used where the destination is a Wikimedia sister project, another language Wikimedia site (e.g. User:Foreign), or in rare cases another website (e.g. meatball: targets). They may also be used for local targets in some cases (e.g. WP:AN/K). Soft redirects differ in that they leave the reader on the redirect page, requiring them to click through to the redirected link as opposed to automatically taking them there." My redirect follows that policy. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 15:33, 25 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RFD. Meta-Wiki is a Wikimedia project site, so this is equivalent to a cross-namespace redirect from mainspace to project space, and a reader should not be directed "behind the curtain" in this manner. Retargeting to Wikipedia community may be an option, but it seems a stretch to treat "Wikipede" as a synonym of "Wikipedian". -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:54, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Redirects from main namespace shouldn't redirect to project pages, as they can be very confusing for readers. Not a very active user (talk) 16:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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Westlake Records
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:24, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Westlake Records → Universal Music Group (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Westlake_Records&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. Doesn't seem to have any obvious connection Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:02, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as potentially confusing with Westlake Recording Studios AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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Motorway (United Kingdom)and (Ireland)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:24, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Motorway (United Kingdom)and (Ireland)">Motorway (United Kingdom)and (Ireland) → Controlled-access highway (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Motorway_(United_Kingdom)and_(Ireland)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete due to the disambiguation error(s). -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Motorway (United Kingdom) and Motorway (Ireland) already exist, this weirdly constructed title is unnatural and unhelpful. PC78 (talk) 13:12, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom as weird disambiguation and WP:XY if it were fixed. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:18, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Rfl
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 9%23Template:Rfl

American Desperado (2014 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:24, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="American Desperado (2014 film)">American Desperado (2014 film) → American Desperado (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_Desperado_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Birdsong (2014 film)">Birdsong (2014 film) → Birdsong (novel) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Birdsong_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Born to Be King (2014 film)">Born to Be King (2014 film) → Peter Capaldi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Born_to_Be_King_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Cocaine Cowboys (2014 film)">Cocaine Cowboys (2014 film) → Cocaine Cowboys (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cocaine_Cowboys_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Count of Monte Cristo (2014 film)">The Count of Monte Cristo (2014 film) → The Count of Monte Cristo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Count of Monte Cristo (2015 film)">The Count of Monte Cristo (2015 film) → The Count of Monte Cristo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dead Island (2014 film)">Dead Island (2014 film) → Dead Island (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dead_Island_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Diamond Dogs (2014 film)">Diamond Dogs (2014 film) → Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diamond_Dogs_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="An Enemy of the People (2014 film)">An Enemy of the People (2014 film) → An Enemy of the People (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_Enemy_of_the_People_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Garden of Last Days (2014 film)">The Garden of Last Days (2014 film) → The Garden of Last Days (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Garden_of_Last_Days_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Happy Prince (2014 film)">The Happy Prince (2014 film) → The Happy Prince and Other Tales (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Happy_Prince_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Incredible Shrinking Man (2015 film)">The Incredible Shrinking Man (2015 film) → The Incredible Shrinking Man (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Incredible_Shrinking_Man_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mai, the Psychic Girl (2014 film)">Mai, the Psychic Girl (2014 film) → Mai, the Psychic Girl (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mai,_the_Psychic_Girl_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Masters of the Universe (2015 film)">Masters of the Universe (2015 film) → Masters of the Universe (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Masters_of_the_Universe_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Miracle Man (2015 film)">The Miracle Man (2015 film) → Morris E. Goodman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Miracle_Man_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Robotech (2015 film)">Robotech (2015 film) → Robotech (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robotech_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Robotech (2016 film)">Robotech (2016 film) → Robotech (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robotech_(2016_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (2014 film)">Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (2014 film) → Lady Vengeance (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sympathy_for_Lady_Vengeance_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (2015 film)">Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (2015 film) → Lady Vengeance (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sympathy_for_Lady_Vengeance_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tender Is the Night (2014 film)">Tender Is the Night (2014 film) → Tender Is the Night (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tender_Is_the_Night_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tender Is the Night (2015 film)">Tender Is the Night (2015 film) → Tender Is the Night (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tender_Is_the_Night_(2015_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Here is a batch of what I like to call "faulty crystal ball" film redirects. As these years have already passed, it's impossible for these films to be released in that year. It's also implausible that someone would type these redirects in the search bar due to the incorrect year disambiguation. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:05, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete all. No such films exist and for many of the above there is no relevant content at the target article, presumably because the mooted film projects have since died a death. Unhelpful crystal ballery since few (if any) appear to have made it beyond the scriptwriting stage. PC78 (talk) 13:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom housekeeping. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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Suicide in Medical Patients: Japanese and American Psychiatrist's Attitudes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:25, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Suicide in Medical Patients: Japanese and American Psychiatrist's Attitudes → Suicide (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suicide_in_Medical_Patients:_Japanese_and_American_Psychiatrist%27s_Attitudes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Suicide in Medical Patients: Japanese and American Psychiatrist’s Attitudes">Suicide in Medical Patients: Japanese and American Psychiatrist’s Attitudes → Suicide (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suicide_in_Medical_Patients:_Japanese_and_American_Psychiatrist%E2%80%99s_Attitudes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This reads like a WP:NOTESSAY-type article that should have been deleted instead of redirected. I can't imagine this being used as a search query. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. This was actually a very old article that was moved to Suicide in medical patients and then to Suicide among medical patients in quick succession before apparently being merged. The article history is at the latter so nothing is lost by deleting these original titles. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 07:29, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Xezbeth. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:23, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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Coffee hour
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Coffee culture. Not much of a consensus, but this option has the momentum. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:58, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Coffee hour → Agape feast (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coffee_hour&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Although it is mentioned in the target as an Eastern Orthodox term, I think this redirect is too surprising and not helpful. In my country (United States) "coffee hour" refers to any event at which coffee is provided. There might be potential for an article but it seems almost DICTDEF to me. Fiamh (talk, contribs) 06:38, 12 October 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. This is a tricky one: many of the mentions of "coffee hour" have agape/religion/church contexts, but several do not, but it's not the sort of precise phrase one could make a disambiguation page about. I think on balance that Search does a better job and this redirect therefore impedes Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:10, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There's potential to discuss this sort of thing at Coffee culture. It currently has a reference with "coffee hour" in the title, but no explicit coverage. --BDD (talk) 13:54, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Coffee culture as with Coffee break (although coffee break redirects to break first, but hatnotes to coffee culture). Coffee culture has a reference to a NYT article about the coffee hour. It seems to be a common label for various events at schools, churches, workplaces, organizations, not specifically Eastern Orthodox.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:34, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Coffee culture and maybe add a hatnote there pointing at the current target. Not a very active user (talk) 14:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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Major consensus narrative
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 5%23Major consensus narrative

Gross movement
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gross motor skill. --BDD (talk) 16:51, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Gross movement → Anatomical terms of motion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gross_movement&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target, and the fact that the target is specifically about terminology makes it especially likely that this will cause confusion or at least inconvenience. The specific subsection to which this points hasn't existed since December 2013. I'm not sure whether Gross motor skills would be an appropriate target or not: it seems to be about a related but narrower topic. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:56, 11 October 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep in order to preserve the page history, and properly document the merge that took place on 30 November 2013. Gross motor skill may be a more useful target for readers, since at least it contextualizes the word "gross". -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Gross motor skills per Black Falcon. Wug·a·po·des​ 02:40, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
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PowerUp Heroes
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Xbox 360 games (M–Z). --BDD (talk) 16:49, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * PowerUp Heroes → List of Xbox 360 games (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PowerUp_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 16:46, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: This video game apparently exists, but I can't find any appropriate (non-primary) sources for a mention at the target . Geolodus (talk) 17:44, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There's an IGN review, but it doesn't contain much actual information on the subject. Geolodus (talk) 17:56, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * A more detailed search has revealed that it actually has independent coverage at GamesRadar+, Engadget, Kotaku and Eurogamer. Retarget to List of Xbox 360 games (M–Z) and add a mention there from one or more of these sources. Geolodus (talk) 13:26, 16 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: Could this Metacritic page count? Batman20X6 (talk) 4:46, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think that Metacritic counts toward notability as it aggregates reviews on essentially all video games (including ones that have no external reviews), but it may be used to describe a game's critical reception. (That is just my impression on the matter.) Geolodus (talk) 13:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep for now. Add entry with WP:VG/RS sourcing. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:38, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep and mention, seems to have received enough coverage in secondary sources to meet the notability guidelines. Not a very active user (talk) 14:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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