Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 September 14

September 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 14, 2019.

Ernestine (Sesame Street)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Ernestine (Sesame Street) → List of Sesame Street Muppets (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ernestine_(Sesame_Street)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The character Ernestine is no longer mentioned in List of Sesame Street Muppets. Consequently, I recommend that the redirect be deleted. Alternatively, the content related to this character could be restored to the target page if it can be reliably sourced. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I was the one who removed the entry, since there are no longer sources that support her existence. I agree that the redirect can be restored when reliable sources are found. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Sasago Madono
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Sources were provided justifying the redirect. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 22:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Sasago Madono → Sasago Tani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sasago_Madono&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Madono" is not mentioned in the target article, and I wasn't able to find it in the linked jaWiki article either (I searched for まどの　and 窓の). I would suggest deletion unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 18:01, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Madono (真殿) is his maiden name. --Miyuki Meinaka (talk) 23:33, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * He competed as Sasago Madono in the Athletics at the 1917 Far Eastern Championship Games and the Athletics at the 1919 Far Eastern Championship Games, so I think it is a necessary redirect.--Miyuki Meinaka (talk) 23:41, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I see now where it says that in the Japanese article. However, going through the sources for the article, while it's clear that someone named Sasago Madono competed in the above tournaments, there's no actual evidence that I can see that this is the same person as Sasago Tani. signed,Rosguill talk 00:02, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Did Japanese men have "maiden names" 100 years ago? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:56, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. Not universally but it occurred, e.g. due to mukoyōshi (taking the surname of one's father-in-law to carry on his business). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 08:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep given the source I just added to the article, which states: "According to Ishihara Kazuaki (82, Bizen City), a consultant with the Okayama Track Federation doing research on his achievments, Tani was born to the Madono family of Iri Village, Wake District (today Iri Village, Bizen City)." This source cited in the Japanese article also states that his former surname was Madono. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 08:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Nom comment I'm swayed by the sources provided by the IP above and will withdraw this nomination. signed,Rosguill talk 22:31, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Bad Photographs
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Bad Photographs (Katy Perry song) → Prism (Katy Perry album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bad_Photographs_(Katy_Perry_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Bad Photographs (song) → Prism (Katy Perry album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bad_Photographs_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Bad Photographs → Prism (Katy Perry album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bad_Photographs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of 'Bad Photographs' at target page, probably a rumored track title which was no more than that. Redirect no longer serves a purpose. I couldn't find a better target. Richhoncho (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete this wasn't included in the final track listing. By the way, I've merged all of these redirect listings into one thread to avoid duplication. Hope you don't mind. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * According to the Katy Perry Wiki "Bad Photographs" was eventually reworked into "Miss You More", a track on Witness. I don't know if that can be reliably sourced though. PC78 (talk) 09:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikia (what you've linked) is a fansite full of user-generated content,, and thus definitely not a good enough reference. See WP:Reliable sources for more. I'm not convinced better sourcing can be found. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 12:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't believe I suggested that it was a good reference, in fact I think I suggested that it wasn't. I merely posted that link as an FYI because it hints at a potential retarget. There's certainly no need to start citing guidelines. PC78 (talk) 12:22, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * My bad; I somehow got the wrong impression of your comment at first. It now seems clearer after re-reading that what you really meant. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 16:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries. Perry did mention "Bad Photographs" in this LA Times interview but it doesn't seem to be in the context of any forthcoming album. Inclined to say delete as it's pretty trivial and there doesn't seem to be a suitable place for it. PC78 (talk) 05:47, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed; the Prism album hadn't even been announced yet at the time that was published, so it at best was just speculated to be there and never was included after the album's name and release date were given. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 10:37, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Stay the Night (EP)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Stay the Night (Zedd song). Also noting that the nom withdrew and the one delete !vote was struck. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 00:18, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Stay the Night (EP)">Stay the Night (EP) → Cash Only (EP) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stay_the_Night_(EP)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Stay The Night (EP)">Stay The Night (EP) → Cash Only (EP) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stay_The_Night_(EP)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is a song at the target, but no EP, therefore the redirect is misleading Richhoncho (talk) 12:15, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, "Stay the Night" is the title of a song, not an EP. No other plausible targets. PC78 (talk) 13:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Stay the Night (Zedd song), which includes information about a digital EP release of the same name. - Eureka Lott 14:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Good call, I missed that one. Retarget per above. PC78 (talk) 09:19, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. I will redirect as per above now. Thanks guys. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:59, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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NETANYAHU, YONATAN
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="NETANYAHU, YONATAN">NETANYAHU, YONATAN → Yonatan Netanyahu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NETANYAHU,_YONATAN&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

All caps, surname before name, redirect with no page linking to it. Carnby (talk) 16:23, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to Netanyahu, Yonatan. exists for this purpose, and this name order is the default sort method for the target's listing in categories.  Jalen D. Folf   (talk)  20:27, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * If you think Netanyahu, Yonatan would be a useful redirect, simply create it! There is no need to tie it's fate to a completely separate title. In fact, I have done just that. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:20, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RCAPS, the subject has no affinity to this capitalization. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:23, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Changing my vote to Delete per Tavix. My comment still stands for the newly created redirect. Jalen D. Folf   (talk)  21:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, although I would have just moved it to the correct capitalization. Note that the earliest edit history reflects an attempt to create an article, just at the wrong title. bd2412  T 03:14, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, no need for an all caps redirect. PC78 (talk) 09:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * DELETE. Redirects are cheap; but because the search box corrects all-lowercase into mixed case, there is no need for this; and we certainly don't want editors adding bluelinks which SHOUT into ARTICLES. Narky Blert (talk) 20:49, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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