Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 September 28

September 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 28, 2019.

Yugoslav Milicija
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:17, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Yugoslav Milicija → Militia (Yugoslavia) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yugoslav_Milicija&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is half a WP:FORRED: "milicija" is Croatian while "Yugoslav" is English. I don't see how this is a particularly useful combination; if the redirect were entirely in Croatian, it would be different, but since it is half English, its utility is likely diminished. I thus suggest deletion. ComplexRational (talk) 23:47, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 *  Speedily delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:38, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Why does every redirect need to be speedily deleted outside the criteria? Geolodus (talk) 16:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom as an implausible redirect due to the mixing of two languages. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:08, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per above, not to mention that even if it were entirely in Croatian it would probably fail WP:FORRED anyway. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 04:00, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Croatian was spoken in Yugoslavia, although the state had no official language. Geolodus (talk) 16:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , Yugoslavia had an official language, but none at federal level. Serbo-Croatian was official in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia (with Vojvodina and Kosovo) and Montenegro. Slovene was official in Slovenia, Macedonian was official in Macedonia, Albanian was official in Kosovo, while Hungarian had some special status in Hungarian speaking towns in Vojvodina. However, in Croatia the official language was by the 1974 constitution "Croatian or Serbian". --Koreanovsky (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, that's why I wrote "the state", meaning the upper-level government. Geolodus (talk) 06:13, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hey! Sorry for the late reply! ;) If you say it is outside the criteria of the English Wikipedia, feel free to delete it! There is a reason why I made this redirect. The article was originally named "Yugoslav Militsiya" which is absolutely wrong, since the word "Militsiya" is the Russian transcription for "милиция", the Russian law inforcement until 2011 (If I am not wrong). As you can see, I did it to show that the term "Militsiya" is totally wrong when it comes to Yugoslavia and the Yugoslav Militia (Milicija) since it is not comparable with the Soviet and/or Russian one. Greetings, Koreanovsky (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. I cannot delete it myself as I am not an admin, and even if I were, this redirect doesn't meet any of the speedy deletion criteria. It is best to discuss here in cases like this, especially when different opinions may come into play. ComplexRational (talk) 21:50, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
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ESPN MLB Baseball
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to ESPN Major League Baseball. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:18, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * ESPN MLB Baseball → ESPN Major League Baseball (video game) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ESPN_MLB_Baseball&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I would think that the primary topic is ESPN Major League Baseball, especially since "MLB Baseball" does not seem to be specific shorthand for the video game. If it is being searched in this way, the more intuitive target seems to be the more generic article, so I'm proposing a retarget there. ComplexRational (talk) 23:40, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. I just added a hatnote to ESPN Major League Baseball to avoid potential confusion. - Eureka Lott 23:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 00:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom.  GaɱingFørFuɲ 3 6 5 09:01, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. ESPN MLB should be created though as this version is redundant. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:02, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Heh. Do we need to create Template:R from RAS syndrome? - Eureka Lott 20:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Possible(?): Who knows. Benjaminkirsc (talk) 10:19, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Lede improvement team
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedily Deleted  . By Anthony Appleyard. (non-admin closure) James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 13:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Lede improvement team → Wikipedia:WikiProject Lead Improvement Team (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lede_improvement_team&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely search target (1view/90d) –xenotalk 23:05, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as a relatively recently created cross-namespace redirect to a small WikiProject with just 14 listed participants. The redirect has no significant incoming links, few pageviews, and no useful history. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as the creator I'd be fine with this. &#160; Discant  X  02:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I've tagged for speedy per WP:G7 per the above post. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:22, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Discendo discimus
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Discendo discimus → Docendo discimus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discendo_discimus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading redirect. Both titles in Latin, the target is a disambiguation page for the phrase translating to "By teaching, we learn", the redirect translates to "By learning, we learn" which is rather different and doesn't really pertain to anything on the dab page. Wug·a·po·des​ 20:46, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Redundant in Latin, not a spelling mistake we need to account for with a redirect. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 22:09, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as misleading, per nom. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:04, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Palestine mountain gazelle
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep.  There is consensus that this is an appropriate redirect. Whether the redirect should be mentioned in the lead can be determined on the appropriate talk page. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:38, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Palestine mountain gazelle → Mountain gazelle (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palestine_mountain_gazelle&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target has nothing to do with this redirect. This gazelle is distributed in the whole Middle East and I didn't find any scholar mention of it as Palestine Gazelle Arthistorian1977 (talk) 17:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This is part of the latest disruption by SD to create disruption in articles that have nothing to do with the IP conflict. The mountain gazelle is called the mountain gazelle and there is one article that calls it "Palestine Gazelle" and he is trying to now label that, when IUCN and others don't. We should not be changing articles, and certainly not leads for disruptive purposed. But certainly this is not a redirect that people would use to get to this article. Sir Joseph (talk) 17:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

, Ramat Handaiv:, Bovids of the World p 129. This shows that the name is well established and used in a long list of reliable sources. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:50, 12 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep "Palestine mountain gazelle" is a real name for Mountain gazelle (Gazella gazella): The Guardian:, The Davidson Institute of Science Education:, Antelopes: North Africa, the Middle East, and Asia p 100 :
 * Keep without commenting on whether it's an appropriate inclusion in the target's lead, if this is a name that has been used in RS to refer to the animal then a redirect is appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 03:56, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rosguill. It is unclear from the sources whether this is simply an alternate common name for the mountain gazelle or a subspecies (or the two possibilities are being conflated), but in either case a redirect to mountain gazelle is appropriate. Rlendog (talk) 15:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 14:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. In one way, redirects are different from most other content: they don't require scholarly or other expert backing to exist.  All that matters is whether people are likely to use a string to search for something: if the string commonly represents something, it should be a redirect to it.  The provided links demonstrate that "Palestine mountain gazelle" commonly represents the animal covered in the Mountain gazelle article, so regardless of the reliability of the links, this is a good redirect.  Nyttend (talk) 02:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - well-established common name. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 05:59, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

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Fdf.dk
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 13:18, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Fdf.dk → Frivilligt Drenge- og Pige-Forbund (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fdf.dk&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

SPAM The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 14:43, 20 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep as a normal r from domain name. - Eureka Lott 21:28, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Eureka Lott. How is this spam? -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:14, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Other Stuff Exists
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Other Stuff Exists → Wikipedia:Other stuff exists (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Other_Stuff_Exists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely search target (1 view past 90 days) –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 18:08, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as a cross-namespace redirect. Wug·a·po·des​ 19:16, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 *  Speedily delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:38, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Why speedily? -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as a cross-namespace redirect to an essay (not even guideline or policy). The redirect has no significant incoming links, few pageviews, and no useful page history. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Deletion seems like uncontroversial maintenance to me. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 10:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Godot3D
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted  (R3) by User:Ritchie333. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:01, 1 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Godot3D → Godot (game engine) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Godot3D&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Seems implausible, created by a user known for implausible and/or ambiguous redirects that have been discussed here. 12 page views since creation. The SandDoctor Talk 16:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  GaɱingFørFuɲ 3 6 5 09:14, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: as WP:CSD: The editor that created this has some bizarre obsession with creating nonsensical redirects. Let's not waste any more time on this. Toddst1 (talk) 09:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Godot is both 2D and 3D. This title is erroneous. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 10:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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T:motu
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted (CSD R3) by User:Anthony Bradbury.  -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:27, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * T:motu → Template:Masters of the Universe (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T:motu&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous/unnecessary redirect to Template:Masters of the Universe created by a user known for making ambiguous/unnecessary redirects. I would speedy delete as WP:CSD, but don't consider this "recent" enough to satisfy the criteria. The SandDoctor Talk 16:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: as WP:CSD: The editor that created this has some bizarre obsession with creating nonsensical redirects. Let's not waste any more time on this. Toddst1 (talk) 09:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * As the nominator stated, this is not recently created and thus does not meet the criterion. Geolodus (talk) 10:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Speedily delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as an unnecessary cross-namespace redirect. I think this is certainly recent enough for R3. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:27, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Sonic1996
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Sonic1996 → Sonic the Hedgehog (OVA) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sonic1996&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect/ambiguous. I would R3, but this was not a "recent" creation. The SandDoctor Talk 16:15, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Implausible. Sergecross73   msg me  02:19, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sergecross73. There are more Sonic the Hedgehog video games released in 1996 than just one.  GaɱingFørFuɲ 3 6 5 09:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: as WP:CSD: The editor that created this has some bizarre obsession with creating nonsensical redirects. Let's not waste any more time on this. Toddst1 (talk) 09:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:04, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Sonic2006
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The Moaner
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:21, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The Moaner → Black Christmas (1974 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Moaner&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no indication in the article why this redirects here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:55, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Redirects are supposed to be able to justify themselves. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 07:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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List of Wikipedia essays
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Don't revert due solely to no consensus
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:22, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Don't revert due solely to no consensus → Wikipedia:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus" (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Don%27t_revert_due_solely_to_no_consensus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely target (0 views in 90 days) –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 13:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as cross-namespace redirect. Wug·a·po·des​ 19:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedily delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as a cross-namespace redirect to an essay (not even guideline or policy). The redirect has no significant incoming links, few pageviews, and no useful page history. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:31, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete the redirect, and while you're at it, delete the essay too. In the interest of being pleasant, I only point out that they are "problematic", so to speak. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 10:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Academic boosterism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:22, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Academic boosterism → Wikipedia:Avoid academic boosterism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Academic_boosterism&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely target (2 views in last 90 days). –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 12:56, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per RDEL10; should point to actual encyclopedic content rather than projectspace. Wug·a·po·des​ 19:30, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedily delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation, per Wugapodes. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Most common Wikipedia faux pas
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 23:11, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Most common Wikipedia faux pas → Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Most_common_Wikipedia_faux_pas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely search target (16 views in 90 days) –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 12:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Redirects for discussion/Log/2006 August 24 and RKEEP4. This redirect predates MediaWiki and namespaces, and it historically was commonly used, being listed as one of the top 25 most popular pages in Nov 2001 and Oct 2001. There's an incredibly high likelihood that this is linked externally (it's gotten 16 views in 90 days which is actually pretty good for old redirects like this) and deleting it would break an unknown amount of stuff. Keep and tag with R with old history. Wug·a·po·des​ 19:40, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Hm, in that case I withdraw this nomination. Thank you for the insight! –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 22:48, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Previously deleted non-standard foreign names for Wikipedia
<span id="WİKİPEDİA"> <span id="Wikipédien">   <span id="維基大典"> <span id="Википеди">  <span id="ویکیپدیا"> <span id="Википедиja">  <span id="Wîkîpediya"> <span id="WikipÆdia">    <span id="Oiquipedià"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 10%23Previously deleted non-standard foreign names for Wikipedia

Lantsong and Lanfung
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Lantsong → Nanchang (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lantsong&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lanfung → Nanfeng County (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lanfung&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not clear what the relation to the target is: not mentioned at the target, and an internet search didn't turn up anything meaningful. Delete if a justification cannot be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 11:45, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Ok then, why not delete? Ȝeſtikl (talk) 11:28, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
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Clin d'œil
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:29, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Clin d'œil">Clin d'œil → The Island of Doctor Moreau (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clin_d%27%C5%93il&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, I can't figure out what the relation is. An internet search returns myriad unrelated results. If a justification cannot be provided, then I suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 11:41, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment I heard that this is the last word by Moreau, but I do not know which Moreau? --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:07, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

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192.168.10.1
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:25, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * 192.168.10.1 → Private network (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=192.168.10.1&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 192.168.4.20 → Private network (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=192.168.4.20&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 192.168.69.69 → Private network (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=192.168.69.69&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No special significance, at least two of these seem to be obvious jokes. Note that I'm not nominating 192.168.0.3, as that one seems to have some actual significance signed,Rosguill talk 11:33, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * My apologies, most likely I had been pretty bored that day and thought that a little bit of prank would be harmless. For 192.168.10.1 though, I vote for keep since it is also a common choice for NAT router manufacturers for the default gateway's IP address as well. --Luke1337 (talk) 14:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and trout per Luke1337. Maybe keep the first one. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:00, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all as unlikely search terms. There are 65,536 IP addresses of the form 192.168.x.x and only a couple of them (e.g. 192.168.0.1) are significant. Of course others are used but Wikipedia is not a directory where company phone numbers redirect to the articles about each company, and similarly there is no reason to pick a couple of IPs for redirects. I would add 192.0.34.166 and 192.168.1.11 along with 192.168.10.1 which has no special significance—someone searching Wikipedia for that IP will not find anything useful at private network. Johnuniq (talk) 02:01, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all as well as 192.168.0.3, 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1, and 192.168.1.11. These are rarely used and we have a search engine for a reason. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 11:55, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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SteamID
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * SteamID → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SteamID&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Steamid → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steamid&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned on target page. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 11:08, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep It's the username to identify a steam user so a useful search term. Tag as R without mention. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete These redirects strike me as someone trying to find technical information concerning Steam IDs (e.g. appropriate names, changing passwords, etc.) that we obviously can't provide here at Wikipedia. My question is this: Why is someone trying to find Steam IDs or information on them on Wikipedia? I don't think there's a policy-compliant answer to that question. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 04:59, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: Redirects are supposed lead the readers to knowledge, not confusion. SteamID is not alternative title for Steam, but rather a subtopic of it, on which the article has no information. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 10:40, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Valve Cyber Café Program
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Valve Cyber Café Program">Valve Cyber Café Program → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valve_Cyber_Caf%C3%A9_Program&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Valve Cyber Cafe Program → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valve_Cyber_Cafe_Program&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned on target page. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 11:07, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: I do remember this doomed program, but if this article has no information on it, I don't think keeping this emotional memento does anyone any good. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 08:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Naissancee
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Naissancee → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naissancee&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * NaissanceE → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NaissanceE&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A game released on Steam, just like 300,000+ others. The topic has nothing to do with Steam and a redirect there is misleading. Also not mentioned on the target page. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 11:04, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:COSTLY and per RDEL10. Wug·a·po·des​ 20:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: This redirect, as WP:RDEL:#5 puts it, makes no sense. Redirecting the title of a video game to the title of its distribution platform is like redirecting the name of famous person to Shoe on the pretext that said person wore shoes. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 10:45, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Steam (company)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Steam (disambiguation). —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Steam (company)">Steam (company) → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steam_(company)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search target; Steam is not a company. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 10:59, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Champion below Wug·a·po·des​ 15:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC) Not everyone knows that steam is not a company; useful search term for people unfamiliar with the software or business organization. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:03, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Steam_(disambiguation), or if you prefer, simply to the dab without the section, to address ' concerns. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to : User:Champion's idea sounds great to me. There are actual companies out there that are called "Steam", and Valve, Inc. or its Steam service, are not among them. On the whole, I don't think it is a good idea to make things easier for the misguided people at the cost of confusing the informed ones. In fact, I usually find that it is easier to correct mistakes when the accuracy is maintained in everything else. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 11:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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Steam (software
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:28, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Steam (software">Steam (software → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steam_(software&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search target with missing parenthesis on disambiguator. A version with all parentheses present exists making this redirect redundant. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 10:59, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:COSTLY. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedily delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: It is clearly something broken and irreparable. Think of deleting it as uncontroversial maintenance. <span style="font-family: 'Ink Free', sans-serif;">flowing dreams (talk page) 10:47, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Steam (Software)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:29, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Steam (Software)">Steam (Software) → Steam (service) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steam_(Software)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search target with upper-case disambiguator. The same redirect with a properly cased disambiguator already exists. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 10:51, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Not everyone knows our disambiguation MOS so it aids linking and searching. Tag with R from alternative disambiguation or R from alternative capitalization. Wug·a·po·des​ 20:51, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , as presented in my nom, the same redirect already exists where the disambiguator is in lower-case. A search using Wikipedia's search system will yield the exact same result with and without the redirect. From the comments below I now know to link to WP:RDAB for such discussions. Regards, Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 14:43, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. We have around 6,000 Category:Redirects from miscapitalisations. Most if not all are plausible search terms (we don't require redirects to be likely search terms, nor should we, as we have thousands of articles that no one ever searches for); many, including this one, are also frequently linked to from other articles. Also, it's polite to notify the creator of a redirect, and any other major contributors, when nominating it for deletion. See WP:RFD. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:11, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , note that the category you linked applies to redirects where the title has an alternative capitalisation, not the disambiguator. From the comments below I now know to link to WP:RDAB for such discussions. As for the creator ping, I usually have this enabled in Twinkle and believed that it does this automatically for me. It does not seem to be the case, however, and I double-check that it does so in the future. Regards, Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 14:43, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a textbook WP:RDAB scenario since the disambiguator is unnecessarily capitalized. Steel1943  (talk) 22:21, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Steel1943 (WP:RDAB), as a redirect from an unlikely (and incorrect) capitalization of an alternative disambiguated form of the title. The few links noted by A&H have been fixed. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * They haven't been "fixed" as, per an established guideline that editors who wish to contribute usefully at RfD really ought to know about, they weren't broken. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:05, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Putting aside the semantics of "fixed" versus "broken", the fact is that none of the reasons listed at WP:NOTBROKEN to not bypass a redirect apply in this case. However, the guideline does call for "[s]pelling errors and other mistakes [to] be corrected", and a miscapitalization falls under "other mistakes". I am well aware that it is generally inappropriate to edit articles solely for the purpose of bypassing a redirect, so all of my edits included other, more substantive changes. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:57, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
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Dry rice
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Rice. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 13:17, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Dry rice → Upland rice (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dry_rice&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading, as dry rice in English generally just means uncooked rice. I would suggest either deletion or redirecting to Rice. signed,Rosguill talk 10:41, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to rice per nom. Wug·a·po·des​ 20:52, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * retarget for now. Would have been useful to link at Grain drying had that article have a dedicated section for drying rice. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:10, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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National Awami League
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:42, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * National Awami League → National Awami Party (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Awami_League&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

We have articles for the Awami League and the National Awami Party. However, neither of these parties appears to be called the "National Awami League", at least based on the article contents. If I'm correct that this is a misnomer that could equally refer to either party, I would suggest that we delete this redirect and let the internal search engine do its work. signed,Rosguill talk 10:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably a good candidate to delete per WP:XY. We could probably redirect it to the more trafficked of the two pages and add a hatnote since I could imagine this being confusing for readers unfamiliar with the difference. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:06, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , the creator of the redirect, is the only editor who has written the name National Awami League. Perhaps they can say what sources use the name and explain why it should redirect to National Awami Party. The sources cited in B. M. Kutty (the only article where National Awami League is used) speak of the Pakistan Awami League and the National Awami Party (NAP), never of a National Awami League. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:18, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom/WP:XY. --BDD (talk) 20:29, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
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Portal:Pondicherry
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:Pondicherry → Portal:India (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Pondicherry&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused redirect to an excessively broad target. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:24, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Ministry of Science and Computerisation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Ministry of Science and Computerisation → Ministry of Science and Higher Education (Poland) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ministry_of_Science_and_Computerisation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, does not seem to be an alternate name in English, or a translation of the Polish name. I would suggest deletion unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 10:23, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There is Ministry of Administration and Digitization (Poland). While computerisation can be an alternative for digitization, that ministry does not deal with science. So, it's say Delete. - Darwinek (talk) 15:41, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Baroque bridge
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Baroque bridge → Náměšť nad Oslavou bridge (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baroque_bridge&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This title is too vague to redirect to one specific article - it could refer to any bridge in the world that is built in the baroque style Melcous (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete There are thousands of Baroque bridges in the world. The title is too vague to redirect only to one specific bridge. At best, it could be a disambig page.--Darwinek (talk) 15:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I was thinking of suggesting Baroque architecture as a target but there is not even one mention of bridges within that article. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:03, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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LrrG
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . per Toddst1 — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:15, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * LrrG → Lego Rock Raiders (video game) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LrrG&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too ambiguous and not mentioned in target. Most likely not a useful search term. The SandDoctor Talk 07:40, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. This abbreviation is not connected to the game in any way and serves no use to the reader. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; )


 * Speedy delete as WP:CSD: The editor that created this has some bizarre obsession with creating nonsensical redirects. Let's not waste any more time on this.  Toddst1 (talk) 12:47, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Groundcontrol02
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by RHaworth  . Per WP:CSD. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 16:10, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Groundcontrol02 → Ground Control II: Operation Exodus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groundcontrol02&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous redirect (too generic?) and not mentioned in target. The SandDoctor Talk 07:39, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as WP:CSD: The editor that created this has some bizarre obsession with creating nonsensical redirects.  Let's not waste any more time on this.  Toddst1 (talk) 12:46, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Groundcontrol01b
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by RHaworth  . Per WP:CSD. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 16:11, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Groundcontrol01b → Ground Control: Dark Conspiracy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groundcontrol01b&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in current target (Ground Control: Dark Conspiracy). The SandDoctor Talk 07:37, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as WP:CSD: The editor that created this has some bizarre obsession with creating nonsensical redirects.  Let's not waste any more time on this.  Toddst1 (talk) 12:46, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Yoshio Ishizaka
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 * The result of the discussion was restore article  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 06:02, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Yoshio Ishizaka → Toyota (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yoshio_Ishizaka&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. I would suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 07:21, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

His main claim to fame is writing some books about the Toyota way https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3AYoshio+Ishizaka&s=relevancerank&text=Yoshio+Ishizaka&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1. He has also been a Toyota employee since 1965. As such, I also think we should delete the redirect to Toyota.  Stepho  talk 08:58, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete might be good to consider adding his books to Further reading for either Toyota or Toyota Production System although the book is more about sales/marketing. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:18, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Toyota Way is probably the most relevant article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Restore article per WP:BLAR. This is invalid as a redirect due to a lack of mention. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:49, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 02:44, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Restore article as first choice per Tavix. Second choice is to retarget to Toyota Way. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:10, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Decision 2000
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 7%23Decision 2000

1800 Scenario
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:32, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * 1800 Scenario → United States presidential election (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1800_Scenario&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 1824 Scenario → United States presidential election (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1824_Scenario&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 1824 scenario → United States presidential election (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1824_scenario&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what these are supposed to mean. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:38, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't know that any of these terms are legitimate references to anything. I would imagine more appropriate articles would be US elections, not just the concept in general. Regardless, they should not all redirect to the same place if they exist at all. If there are more of these that vary by year and/or letter case, I think we should speedy delete those if this discussion results in deletion of these particular ones. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 22:00, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete as R3, these are the vaguest redirects I have seen. Completely implausible. James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 23:00, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Washington (city)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:41, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Washington (city)">Washington (city) → Washington, D.C. (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Washington_(city)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Washington as this is ambiguous. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 01:41, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom's suggestion as R from incomplete disambiguation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:33, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Washington, D.C. is by far the largest city of its name, and already has an appropriate hatnote. - Eureka Lott 16:31, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Eureka Lott. Clearly WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT with 3.3 million annual views. For comparison, it gets 10 to 100 times more views than any other Washington-named city as can be seen in the following comparisons: |Washington,_Alabama|Washington,_Arkansas|Washington,_California|Washington,_Connecticut|Washington,_Georgia|Washington,_Illinois|Washington,_Indiana|Washington,_Iowa|Washington,_Kansas first 9 cities at Washington#Cities_and_communities, |Washington,_Connecticut|Washington,_Georgia|Washington,_Kentucky|Washington,_Louisiana|Washington,_Maine|Washington,_Massachusetts|Washington,_Michigan|Washington,_Mississippi|Washington,_Missouri next seven compared against running top 3 trafficked articles, |Washington,_Connecticut|Washington,_Georgia|Washington,_Missouri|Washington,_Nebraska|Washington,_New_Hampshire|Washington,_New_Jersey|Washington,_New_York|Washington,_North_Carolina|Washington,_Oklahoma next six compared against running top 4 trafficked articles, |Washington,_Connecticut|Washington,_Georgia|Washington,_Missouri|Washington,_North_Carolina|Washington,_Pennsylvania|Washington,_Utah|Washington,_Vermont|Washington,_Virginia|Washington,_West_Virginia next five compared against running top 5. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:34, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep It's very likely that the specific Washington city the user is searching for is going to be Washington, D.C. I'd normally support the nomination as proposed, but searching for DC is by far the most likely intention with this redirect. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 22:02, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible search term, no incoming mainspace links, no significant edit history. There is no PTOPIC for such a term since Washington (city) is neither the city's proper name nor a natural English phrase that published sources would use. Most sources would just say Washington, Washington, D.C., District of Columbia, etc. Likewise, readers are unlikely to type (city) in the search bar. Presumably the page creator felt a need for an equivalent to Washington (state); however, there was no need since Washington, D.C. is naturally disambiguated. While redirects are cheap, this one seems like a solution in search of a problem. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 10:37, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: but redirect to Washington instead of what nom suggested. Toddst1 (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Are you joking? What else could someone possibly want when they link or search for "Washington (city)"? Red   Slash  03:46, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That's rather the point of Washington. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Even taking into account some jurisdictions' tendency to call any populated place "city", it would be quite a stretch to call many of those places cities. --BDD (talk) 15:02, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Do not delete. All and all, deleting makes no sense since the redirect is at minimum a R from incomplete disambiguation. Steel1943  (talk) 13:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep we usually don't have primary topics for qualified titles but there has been consensus recently to sometimes allow it furthermore this is usually less of a problem with redirects. The other cities are much smaller than the national capital.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 11:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Eureka Lott and Wugapodes. --BDD (talk) 20:21, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
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