Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 September 29

September 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 29, 2019.

Debasement (knighthood)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Debasement (knighthood) → Degradation (knighthood) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Debasement_(knighthood)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was created by an article rename (by me). "Debasement" was just an error. It has never had the meaning claimed here. Leaving the redirect is a potential source of confusion since it suggests that the term has some legitimacy. There are no incoming links in article space. Dan Bloch (talk) 18:52, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:G7. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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Like Nastya Vlog
 Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 7%23Like Nastya Vlog

Finnish National Agency for Education
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:36, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Finnish National Agency for Education → Finnish Government (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finnish_National_Agency_for_Education&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information (not even mentioned) on the subject. Not mentioned in Ministry of Education and Culture (Finland) either so that's not a good retarget. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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The Rest Of Us(album)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The Rest Of Us(album) → The Rest of Us (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Rest_Of_Us(album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from implausible typo. It's always possible for any disambiguated title to be mistyped in a form that drops the space between the topic's name and the disambiguator, but we don't need a comprehensive program of always having a redirect to every disambiguated title from a spacing-error version of the same title, and there's no compelling reason why this album has a unique need for something that most other titles with parentheses in them don't have. Bearcat (talk) 16:31, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. Steel1943  (talk) 21:54, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom/Steel1943. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 13:34, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Kloreen, buryum
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . WP:SNOW -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:49, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Kloreen → Chlorine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kloreen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Buryum → Barium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buryum&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Highly implausible, look like phonetic jokes and are too dissimilar to their targets to be useful in searches. Their creator was indefinitely blocked for creating abusive redirects. ComplexRational (talk) 15:20, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, (speedy) implausible typos. -DePiep (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible, likely joke, redirects. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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LEad
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . WP:SNOW -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:49, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * LEad → Lead (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LEad&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While this misspelling is possible when holding the shift key, this deserves no preferential treatment to billions of other similar typos. The search engine corrects this automatically, and this has no use in linking, so delete. ComplexRational (talk) 15:19, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. You could have an infinite number of such redirects but I don't see that they serve any purpose. PC78 (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, (speedy) implausible typos. -DePiep (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is technically true that people have a slight tendency to accidentally capitalize the second letter in a word sometimes, because the speed of typing meant that they hit the second letter before their little finger was fully off the shift key yet — but that's not a reason why we would need to have a blanket program in place of creating a capitalized-second-letter redirect for every article we have, the search engine automatically accounts for capitalization matters anyway as noted, and there's no reason why "lead" specifically needs special treatment that other titles aren't getting. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as an implausible, possibly joke, redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete seems ridiculous. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 13:36, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Kalcium
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . WP:SNOW -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:49, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Kalcium → Calcium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalcium&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As the misspelling is the initial letter, it seems less likely that this would happen compared to a misspelling elsewhere in the word. For this reason, I'm not sure if this is redirect is really necessary or helpful. ComplexRational (talk) 15:16, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, (speedy) implausible typos. -DePiep (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are a couple of foreign languages whose word for calcium is actually kalcium with a k — but WP:FORRED precludes foreign-language redirects for common terms, and the interlangs will already cover off Swedish or Hungarian speakers looking for kalcium anyway. Bearcat (talk) 16:47, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete not needed. Speedy deletion doesn’t apply here since this was created in January 2008 so it clearly isn’t recent.--67.68.29.177 (talk) 21:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as an implausible, possibly joke, redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Calium
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . WP:SNOW -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:49, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Calium → Calcium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calium&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure where this should point, it could also be a misspelling of kalium (potassium), caliumi (a minor planet), cilium (an organelle), or a bunch of other things. I would suggest deletion for the lack of a clear target. ComplexRational (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, (speedy) implausible typos. -DePiep (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XY. It's very easy to imagine somebody accidentally typing "calium" — but it's impossible to predict which of several different topics they might have really meant. Bearcat (talk) 16:38, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:31, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, as an implausible and ambiguous redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Alliminuim
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . WP:SNOW -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:49, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Alliminuim → Aluminium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alliminuim&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

At least three spelling errors makes this seem highly implausible, even when mashing keys. Relisting individually because its batch RfD was closed as no consensus. ComplexRational (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, (speedy) implausible typos. -DePiep (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is not necessary for us to preemptively anticipate every single spelling or typing error that any reader in the world might ever possibly make; we certainly keep redirects from spelling errors that are documentably common in the real world, but we do not keep redirects from invented spelling errors just because somebody imagines that they might be possible. Bearcat (talk) 16:36, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:31, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, as an implausible typo. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Asstatine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . WP:SNOW -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Asstatine → Astatine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asstatine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Possibly a joke or vandalism, especially considering that the creator was blocked indefinitely for creating abusive redirects. There were several delete !votes for this one at the batch RfD, but the batch was closed as no consensus, so relisting and again suggesting deletion. ComplexRational (talk) 15:08, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, implausible typos (speedy WP:R3). -DePiep (talk) 15:16, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible typo, and likely intended as a joke. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:08, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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United Laboratories
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Anyone is welcome to overwrite the redirect with an article. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * United Laboratories → Jose Yao Campos (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Laboratories&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The well-known United Laboratories pharmaceutical company should have an article on its own instead of being a mere redirect to its founder. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:52, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Then what do you want? Redirect that had stub potential are treated that way. E.g. Bond Corporation, a former listed company is redirected to Alan Bond. Redirects for discussion is not a place to request creation, nor i don't see any need to delete the redirect. Matthew hk (talk) 13:28, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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🅱️
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to ABO blood group system. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 14:24, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="🅱️">🅱️ → Internet meme (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%9F%85%B1%EF%B8%8F&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Current target doesn't make sense. Could be retargetted to ABO blood group system, as that's where 🅰️ and 🅾️ currently point to. Not a very active user (talk) 10:43, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support retarget. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:22, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Personally, I think retargeting would be the best option, based on this link, which seems to give some context. Blood type was its original use. Master of Time   ( talk ) 12:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The link also states that it is an Internet meme now. Maybe a hatnote pointing to the original target (and a mention of 🅱️ there) can be added at the new one. Geolodus (talk) 14:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Retarget to ABO blood group system (1st choice) or Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement. I think either of those contain more relevant content than the current target. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:45, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Tacoma
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 7%23Tacoma

Manual of Style:Ireland-related articles
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:55, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Manual of Style:Ireland-related articles → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manual_of_Style:Ireland-related_articles&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pseudo-namespace cross-namespace redirect; unused (1 view in 90 days). –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 06:17, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unnecessary pseudo-namespace redirect. MOS:IRELAND serves much better as a shortcut. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 13:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:PCP
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:PCP → Template:WikiProject Pokémon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PCP&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused. It does not follow standard convention for redirects of wikiproject banners Magioladitis (talk) 07:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep That redirect resulted from a page move when the Pokemon Collaborative Project was renamed to WikiProject Pokemon. Even if the transclusions were all updated to the current name, there are still references to the old name linked in several discussions from before the move. Fun  Pika  02:22, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as an unused (no significant links [including the ones noted by FunPika... though I'd be willing to pipe them if needed], virtually no pageviews), non-standard project banner redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:08, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete implausible redirect. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:33, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Innisfail Evening Advocate
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Football.london
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . No further comments after the relist, and no consensus prior to the relist. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 13:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Football.london → List of Reach plc titles (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Football.london&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

SPAM The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 14:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


 * This is a news source without a page/section in article space, so no way for reader to judge veracity/authority of its news articles. I would argue that redirecting allows reader to distinguish between credible news sources, and someone's hobby website. Bogger (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep One of the main football websites serving London, currently lacks significant independent sources to expand it into its own article, but it could be conceivably expanded into a full article in the future should there be be enough source. A redirect seems the best option per WP:CHEAP. Hzh (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I consider this redirect WP:POINTLESS. Also, it's currently being redirected to a list on a page which is poorly constructed and doesn't really explain anything to the reader. Doesn't appear to be helping wikipedia what so ever. Govvy (talk) 16:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Someone searching this is going to learn that it is a digital brand owned by Reach plc under the Live brand, along with the sister sites listed. That's certainly better than nothing. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Govvy - are we really going to list every sizeable website in the world as a redirect to their parent media company? GiantSnowman 07:54, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as R to list entry. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:25, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

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Auditor of the College Historical Society
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 13:19, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Auditor of the College Historical Society → College Historical Society (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Auditor_of_the_College_Historical_Society&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

IRRELEVANT The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 14:09, 18 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. The Auditor of the College Historical Society is relevant to the governance of the College Historical Society. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 02:38, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Tavix. The one-word deletion rationale does not make sense without more context. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Octyldodecanol
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 * The result of the discussion was moot/withdrawn. The redirect has been replaced with an article.   ChemNerd (talk) 12:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Octyldodecanol → Alcohol (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Octyldodecanol&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The chemical compound octyldodecanol is not mentioned at alcohol. Out of the literally millions of chemical compounds classified as alcohols, there is no reason to single out just this one to be redirected to the page about this class of chemicals. ChemNerd (talk) 17:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment seems to be related to some cosmetic products? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * replace with article. The redirect as it is is useless. I am happy to write a stub class article for this. Can I replace the redirect? Please let me know when I can do that. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:59, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * If an article is written to replace the redirect, that is fine with me. This RFD can be considered withdrawn in that case.  ChemNerd (talk) 20:22, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * OK I have replaced with an article. I will let someone else close this and remove the redirect. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
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The Montreal Screwjob (Dark Side of the Ring)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:49, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Montreal Screwjob (Dark Side of the Ring)">The Montreal Screwjob (Dark Side of the Ring) → Dark Side of the Ring (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Montreal_Screwjob_(Dark_Side_of_the_Ring)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

unnecessary redirect, there is already a link to Dark Side of the Ring in the Montreal Screwjob article Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's common to redirect episode names to the series they're from, this does not break any kind of rule so I don't see how deleting these are helpful to anyone.★Trekker (talk) 10:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Keep Trekker is right, and I've tagged this with R to TV episode list entry. In practice, I don't know how useful this will be for readers, since the target article has minimal information about the episodes, but this is a pretty standard use of redirects. --BDD (talk) 15:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Montreal Screwjob (WWE Confidential)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:49, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Montreal Screwjob (WWE Confidential)">Montreal Screwjob (WWE Confidential) → WWE Confidential (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montreal_Screwjob_(WWE_Confidential)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

unnecessary redirect, there is already a link to WWE Confidential in the Montreal Screwjob article. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's common to redirect episode names to the series they're from, this does not break any kind of rule so I don't see how deleting these are helpful to anyone.★Trekker (talk) 10:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Weak delete. Though "Montreal Screwjob" is mentioned in the article, specifically the subject at Montreal Screwjob, the subject pertaining to an episode of the target article's subject called "Montreal Screwjob" is not mentioned in the target article. At the present time, readers attempting to find information about the episode will probably be disappointed. Steel1943  (talk) 17:41, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Weak delete per Steel1943. A formal episode list would probably change my mind, assuming "Montreal Screwjob" or something very similar is an actual episode title. --BDD (talk) 15:18, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart: WWE's Greatest Rivalries
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . No prejudice against recreation as an article or to somewhere it's mentioned. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:47, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart: WWE's Greatest Rivalries → Montreal Screwjob (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shawn_Michaels_vs_Bret_Hart:_WWE%27s_Greatest_Rivalries&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

it looks like this is the title of a book or film, but there is nothing about it in the Montreal Screwjob article. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:10, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There should be. It's the name of a documentary film which focuses on Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and the Monstreal Screwjob. Also, just so you know, I'm planing on turning most these redirects into articles one day.★Trekker (talk) 10:17, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom. I appreciate Trekker's gusto, but in the meantime, the redirect will just mislead readers. --BDD (talk) 15:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Geirrendour
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Geirrendour → List of Germanic deities (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geirrendour&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A purported name of a Norse giant listed in some old reference works as a father of the nine waves. But the name is spurious and presumably either invented or grounded in some misunderstanding. It looks kind of like a corrupt version of Geirröðr although that isn't the father of the waves. In any case, a long time ago I turned this into a redirect to a page which included pseudo-entities like this. But it no longer includes Geirrendour so the redirect is no longer fitting and should probably be deleted. Haukur (talk) 22:45, 13 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete useless as a redirect and as an article. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:09, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
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DSFL
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:40, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * DSFL → DIY Space for London (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DSFL&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An internet search would not suggest that this initialism primarily refers to the current target. I would suggest either redirecting to Ford Motor Company, as their Driving Skills for Life program is the top Google result for DSFL, disambiguation, or deletion (as none of the potential targets appear to be strongly associated with this initialism in usage in RS). signed,Rosguill talk 21:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * obviously, being the user who created this redirect, i don't agree with this change. in incognito mode, for me, the venue is the top hit. Playground Twist (talk) 21:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Alas, even in incognito mode, Google has made an effort to localize results in a way that makes it less reliable an instrument for these purposes. The Ford program dominates results in incognito mode for me; I'm in the US, and bet you're in the UK... --BDD (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate I don't see a really easy way to weigh the relative importance or notability of the two topics raised here. Since the Ford program just gets a mention in a much larger article, we can't really rely on page views. I just created Driving Skills for Life, so maybe after some time with a disambiguation page, we can reassess. --BDD (talk) 15:14, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Template:AnimationProject
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:AnimationProject → Template:WikiProject Animation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:AnimationProject&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. It is an unambiguous redirect in the "Template:" namespace causing no harm with existing. Steel1943  (talk) 06:53, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete implausible redirect. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:35, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as an unused (no significant links, virtually no pageviews), non-standard project banner redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:22, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Animation Project
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Animation Project → Template:WikiProject Animation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Animation_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. It is an unambiguous redirect in the "Template:" namespace causing no harm with existing. Steel1943  (talk) 06:53, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete implausible redirect. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:35, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as an unused (no significant links, virtually no pageviews), non-standard project banner redirect. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:22, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template talk:ChristianityWikiProject/sandbox
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:42, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Template talk:ChristianityWikiProject/sandbox">Template talk:ChristianityWikiProject/sandbox → Template talk:WikiProject Christianity/sandbox (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:ChristianityWikiProject/sandbox&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

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 * Keep. R from move template page subpage/redirect. The redirect's parent page should be nominated, not this one (though I would state "keep" to that page as well.) Steel1943  (talk) 06:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete. No need to keep an unused redirect to a template sandbox talk page. PC78 (talk) 15:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete implausible redirect. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:36, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per PC78, though I am confused why the talk page is nominated instead of the parent page. The redirect is unnecessary, unused (no significant incoming links, virtually no pageviews), and contains no useful page history (the move is recorded at the target page). -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * ...And recreated by to target Template talk:WikiProject Christianity, most likely because Template:ChristianityWikiProject/sandbox exists... (Pinging BDD, the discussion closer, just so they are aware.)  Steel1943  (talk) 18:20, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. I gave it a WP:G4 but don't know if the bot will just recreate it again. I didn't see a way to exclude a specific page from its watch, but I hate to salt something that no human is likely to bother with. --BDD (talk) 20:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It's back. But, then again, I wouldn't think the new redirect would be eligible for WP:G4 since the target is different... Steel1943  (talk) 21:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Medstat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:44, 13 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Medstat → Truven Health Analytics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medstat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, I would suggest deletion unless an appropriate justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 07:33, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * On the discussion page, I provided articles that shows the path by which Medstat was purchased by Thomson Reuters to become Thomson Medstat, and then sold to become Truven Health Analytics, which then was aquired by IBM to become IBM Watson Health. So, rather than put an article on the Medstat page, I just used a redirect. Hoshisabi (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:44, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * @Rosguill: Any thoughts in relation to Hoshisabi's comment? Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I did another internet search to see if I could verify Hoshisabi's claim, and I'm now under the impression that there are in fact many different medical companies named Medstat, , . Of these first three that I found, it's not clear that any of them have ever had any affiliation with Thomson Reuters, Truven Health Analytics or IBM Watson Health. As such, I don't think a redirect is appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 01:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Good example of the danger of redirects without mention. --BDD (talk) 15:04, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Hamari Adhuri Kahani ( song)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:57, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hamari Adhuri Kahani ( song)">Hamari Adhuri Kahani ( song) → Hamari Adhuri Kahani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hamari_Adhuri_Kahani_(_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a good redirect. We already have Hamari Adhuri Kahani (song). -- CptViraj (📧) 03:47, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedly delete per nom. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:36, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, as an implausible search term (unnecessary disambiguation with a typo). The aborted article in the page's history is inferior to the version available here, consisting primarily of a long quote from a single source, and therefore not useful for retention. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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