Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 September 8

September 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 8, 2019.

Nu-goth
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  MBisanz  talk 03:52, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Nu-goth → Gothic rock (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gothic_rock&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Article it links to has no reference to this term, does not seem to be interchangeable so it should not be interpreted this way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * It is used by mainstream sources like Fuse and Billboard . These redirects were created because we had sources using the terms on highly visible articles and we were linking to these articles. I was going to add to the articles have been working on other things. Dartslilly (talk) 20:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Billboard seems to label as not even being a music genre, and Fuse does not go into description of the term or what it means. And so far you have not connected them to the genre you are linking to as there is no information about the genre there. If it is even a music genre, as the sources seem to conflict here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete not clear whether it's a fashion / subculture, like pastel goth, or a music genre as it is not explained in either of those articles. Can be revisited if such a list is made in those articles. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I am neutral to deletion. AngusWOOF is correct in his summary. There was edit warring over the inclusion of obscure genres on a highly visible article. The redirects were created to avoid that, because it was expected at the time that more sources would become available to create the separate article. That hasn't happened and my last read of consensus at the article is against inclusion of unestablished genres. Dartslilly (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
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Pop-trap
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Template:AutomobileWatch
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:AutomobileWatch → Template:WikiProject Automobiles (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:AutomobileWatch&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 19:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Library
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Template:Libraries and library science.  MBisanz  talk 03:51, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Library → Template:WikiProject Libraries (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Library&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Template:Libraries and library science. Steel1943  (talk) 22:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Health
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Health → Template:WikiProject Health and fitness (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Health&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 19:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:England
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Template:England topics.  MBisanz  talk 03:51, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:England → Template:WikiProject England (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:England&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 19:18, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Template:England topics. Steel1943  (talk) 22:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Csbir
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Csbir → Template:WikiProject Countering systemic bias (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Csbir&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 19:17, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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.pjp
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Never mind, did some more searching and found some examples of it being used. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 19:04, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * .pjp → JPEG (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.pjp&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This doesn't appear to actually be a file extension for JPEGs. I would suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 19:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Oporto
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Oporto → Template:WikiProject Porto (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Oporto&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Fir Tree (version 2)
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 * The result of the discussion was moved to Fir (tree) without leaving a redirect  . Redirect suppressed per WP:G6 as an obviously unlikely search term. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 21:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Fir Tree (version 2)">Fir Tree (version 2) → Fir Tree (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fir_Tree_(version_2)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect to a DAB page with no relevant entry. An intitle search turned up no plausible target. Delete. Narky Blert (talk) 16:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, quick look into the page history provides no plausible targets either 46.132.189.159 (talk) 17:29, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, housekeeping leftovers after some page moves. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Since the page history is non-trivial I have requested a history merge with Fir Tree. Happy to delete once done. PC78 (talk) 02:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Now done, there is only a single revision remaining about fir trees but this content was not merged anywhere (despite the edit summary). PC78 (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * History merge then speedy delete per R3 and G6.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 09:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging for his input, since he performed the move that led to the current name. - Eureka Lott 14:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There really isn't anything worth histmerging. It was originally created in 2009 to be about the trees, but the Fir topic has been around since 2003 and the disambiguation since 2005. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:06, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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112 (atomic number)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . I found 110 (element) but that seems to be a unique use of that format. There do not seem to be any others of the format "x (atomic number)". So zap it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:44, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="112 (atomic number)">112 (atomic number) → Copernicium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=112_(atomic_number)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: This is a very obscure way to redirect to an element; the atomic number is not a disambiguator. It has no incoming links, and only 23 hits in the last year, so it is evidently not very useful. I should also note that the creator was blocked as a sockpuppet; given that no further edits were made, WP:G5 may also apply. ComplexRational (talk) 14:20, 8 September 2019 (UT
 * Speedy delete per G5. The sockmaster was blocked in February 2010, while this redirect was created in May 2018. There are redirects of the form "Atomic number Z" for H-Ne, Au, and Pb, and "Element Z" redirects for all Z up to 184, but this is unique. This redirect receives |Atomic_number_79|Element_112 far fewer pageviews than Atomic number 79 (for Au, no analog for Cn) or Element 112, so even if G5 does not apply, this should still be deleted. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:46, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:AncientEgyptBanner
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:AncientEgyptBanner → Template:WikiProject Ancient Egypt (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:AncientEgyptBanner&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 10:57, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Intrel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Intrel → Template:WikiProject International relations (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Intrel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Tolkien-project
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Tolkien-project → Template:WikiProject Middle-earth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Tolkien-project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Soviet
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Template:Sailing
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Sailing → Template:WikiProject Sailing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sailing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:33, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:CPGI Award
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:CPGI Award → Template:WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia Award (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:CPGI_Award&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:33, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Businessman
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Template:Businessman → Template:WikiProject Business (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Businessman&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused for many years. It does not follow the standard naming convention for redirects of wikiproject banners. Magioladitis (talk) 07:32, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Various Kingdom of Loathing-related redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  all except for NS13, which will be retargeted to Yishun MRT station as an alternative to deletion. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


 * <span id="Prima Vera Angelhair (Radio KoL DJ)">Prima Vera Angelhair (Radio KoL DJ) → Kingdom of Loathing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prima_Vera_Angelhair_(Radio_KoL_DJ)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Shorebot → Kingdom of Loathing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shorebot&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * NS13 → Kingdom of Loathing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NS13&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Megrimlock → Kingdom of Loathing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Megrimlock&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of the terms appear in the target page. I propose to delete them all. 46.132.189.159 (talk) 07:22, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, leftover neologisms from the community not explained and not notable enough for articles. Retarget NS13 to Yishun MRT station AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all, even within Kingdom of Loathing, rather historical terms nowadays (or a year ago when I last cared). NS13 is probably the most important of the terms from an in-community of KoL perspective. I oppose the proposed retargeting, as this doesn't seem a common way to refer to MRT stations (and we don't have redirects for any of the other NSx that I checked). —Kusma (t·c) 20:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , are there others? They could be disambiguated? I was thinking of that first, but only Yishun showed up. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think NS4 is the only dab page listing one of these MRT stations. Some Googling reveals that the abbreviation is indeed used (and I know not enough about Singapore to say how common it is, so I struck part of my comment), but I am still not convinced this is super useful. —Kusma (t·c) 19:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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Lord Althorp
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