Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 17

April 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 17, 2020.

Love Stinks (album) (obsolete redirect)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . Seems like a non-admin closed and attempted to implement an RM but did not have the permission to WP:G6 the redirect in the way, so they went with this hack. King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Love Stinks (album) (obsolete redirect) → Love Stinks (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_Stinks_(album)_(obsolete_redirect)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This obsolete redirect, created back in 2017, formerly redirected to Love Stinks (album) (to get away from incoming links?), and got only 10 pageviews in 2019, and nothing appears to link to it. Don't know why it should be lying around now. Regards, SONIC  678  23:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Math tag
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to MathML. King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 17:32, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Math tag → Help:Displaying a formula (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Math_tag&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Inappropriate, newly created WP:XNR –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 20:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not meet the strict standards for XNRs. Hog Farm (talk) 20:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Couldn't this be retargeted to MathML, a markup language that uses  tags? – Uanfala (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That seems like a reasonable alternate target. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 00:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Uanfala. Hog Farm (talk) 14:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget. OK, thanks. Retarget (to the alternate target MathML, please). But also really, in Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects,  $$ and $$  are in Tex / LaTex (see the page Help:Displaying a formula). Perhaps some info could be added in the MathML article, as a section or something similar.BoldLuis (talk) 01:41, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * A selfref hatnote linking to the help page can be added to whatever target is chosen. – Uanfala (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget - I agree with the above users. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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Condemic
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Condemic → 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Condemic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can't find any evidence of use of this term by reliable sources, and would thus suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 19:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. No evidence of the use of this term... by any source, not even unreliable. It is the nickname of gamers and users of some sites... and that's about it. --MarioGom (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as no one uses this term for this pandemic. It is likely a joke. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is the first I've heard of the term, and none of the sources that I've seen on here have used it. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  04:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Google doesn't even know what this means. Natureium (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - We can re-evaluate this if/when the term gets considerable usage by reliable sources. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:34, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Found a bunch of usages for obscure musicians and gamers. No evidence of this usage being common.  It's WP:SNOWING. Hog Farm (talk) 14:54, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. J I P  &#124; Talk 16:30, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Snow – There is a clear consensus to delete the redirect. --Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 13:33, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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Too Much (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Too Much (film) → Wish You Were Here (1987 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Too_Much_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article makes no claims that the redirect was a different name for the film in question. Further, there was a wholly different film by the same name that (a) I'm not sure warrants an article, and (b) I don't have the time and inclination to write. —  Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 19:18, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Pawapuro Productions
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 26%23Pawapuro Productions

Dutchland
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  per User:EurekaLott (non-admin closure) Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 13:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Dutchland → Pennsylvania Dutch Country (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dutchland&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could also mean the Netherlands. I suggest disambiguation. Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 17:48, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * We already have a disambiguation page at Dutchland (disambiguation). If you think there's no primary topic for Dutchland, I suggest opening a WP:RM discussion. - Eureka Lott 20:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural close per Eureka. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:34, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Margaret Cirko
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Margaret Cirko → Gerrity's Supermarkets (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Margaret_Cirko&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. An internet search shows that Cirko is known in conjunction with this supermarket chain for intentionally coughing on their merchandise during the current pandemic, which doesn't seem something likely worth mentioning in the article about the supermarkets themselves. I would thus suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 17:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:BLP1E of such a trivial kind that it's not worth adding to the current target or anywhere else. I could rustle up half-a-dozen recent news reports of people in UK who've been jailed for similar offences. This sort of anti-social behaviour was also in the papers 30 years ago when HIV/AIDS was at its height. Narky Blert (talk) 20:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - This doesn't seem appropriate at all. I agree. Deletion is the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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262144
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy retarget  to 100,000 (withdrawn) (non-admin closure) 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * 262144 → 100,000 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=262144&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:28, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep 262,144 gets a mention.--Cavrdg (talk) 13:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - This should specifically go to '100,000', where the number is mentioned. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - There's a sourced mention of it there. The lack of comma does not matter, as commas are not always written in such numbers. Hog Farm (talk) 15:18, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Heptation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Heptation → Hyperoperation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heptation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, and does not seem notable enough. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This seems to be worthless. 14:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC) CoffeeWithMarkets (talk)
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List of List of Attack on Titan episodes (season 1)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . While this discussion was ongoing, an unrelated AfD closed in favor of the deletion of the target of the third redirect, so that redirect is now eligible for G8 deletion regardless of this discussion's content. signed,Rosguill talk 20:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of List of Attack on Titan episodes (season 1)">List of List of Attack on Titan episodes (season 1) → Attack on Titan (season 1) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_List_of_Attack_on_Titan_episodes_(season_1)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of List of submissions to the 88th Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film → List of submissions to the 88th Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_List_of_submissions_to_the_88th_Academy_Awards_for_Best_Foreign_Language_Film&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of list of roads in Shenzhen → Lists of roads in Shenzhen (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_list_of_roads_in_Shenzhen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While it is plausible to search "list of lists of X," I don't know how plausible it is for someone to search "list of list of X," which may be why these redirects were left over from moves to the correctly formatted titles. Maybe delete these three unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC  678  04:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete first 2 as unambiguously created in error. Weak keep third because the target is a list of lists, or would be if all bar one weren't redlinks. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that we should delete the first two of these and keep the third. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete first 2 as above. Delete the third so we don't set a precedent of List of lists of AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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Aboriginal identity
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Aborigine. signed,Rosguill talk 20:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Aboriginal identity → Australian Aboriginal identity (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aboriginal_identity&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirects to Australian Aboriginal identity, which I discovered when linking to it from an article on a Canadian Aboriginal artist. Clearly Aboriginal is not a term that is exclusively Australian. I'm not familiar with the best method for fixing this, so I thought to post here. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The term can also be used in the context of Taiwanese indigenous peoples and maybe others. Though acknowledging that "Aboriginal" is probably most common in an Australian context, it's still an ambiguous enough term to be reasonable to convert to a WP:DAB ( incoming links will need to be fixed ). ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 04:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * DAB sounds good. FWIW, "Aboriginal" is in common use in Canada, running about par with "Indigenous". Wikipedia says "Indigenous Canadians, also known as Aboriginal Canadians, are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of Canada."ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:18, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * All mainspace incoming links have now been modified. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 04:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate - This is absolutely a reasonable thing for people to search, and the fact that the term is applied in different contexts can be explored in a short article. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to disambiguation page Aborigine, recently cleaned up. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to DAB page Aborigine per Shhhnotsoloud. No need for another DAB page with to-and-fro links when the existing DAB page is less than a screenful long. Narky Blert (talk) 20:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget - Yes, this should go to the general disambiguation 'aborigine'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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Most Serene Republic of Vermont
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Most Serene Republic of Vermont → Vermont Republic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Most_Serene_Republic_of_Vermont&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Most Serene Rpublic of Vermont → Vermont Republic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Most_Serene_Rpublic_of_Vermont&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Most Serene Commonwealth of Massachusetts → Massachusetts (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Most_Serene_Commonwealth_of_Massachusetts&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Most Serene Republic of New Connecticut → Vermont Republic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Most_Serene_Republic_of_New_Connecticut&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can't seem to find any sources that refer to the Republic of Vermont by this name, and nothing seems to link to these redirects. Not sure what we should do with them. Regards, SONIC  678  03:58, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: The only place I can see this mentioned online is once on Paradox forums (strategy games) - not GBooks or Scholar or anywhere else. If at one time the Vermont_Republic was a Most Serene Republic then it needs to be properly sourced and mentioned at both articles. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 04:05, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Two other similar redirects with the same lack of evidence are Most Serene Republic of New Connecticut and Most Serene Commonwealth of Massachusetts - these also need deletion. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 08:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Got it. Adding those to the discussion as well. Working on it... Regards, SONIC  678  16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ...did it. Regards, SONIC  678  16:36, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete all I consider it impossible that any of these formulas would ever have been used without there being Google-indexed sources today informing us of it (an anonymous gamer forum writer asking, "Did you know that ...?" isn't a reliable source). There are none to be found. These redirects serve no valid purpose. Largoplazo (talk) 17:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I haven't used this name before! In all seriousness, I couldn't find any reliable sources (or sources at all) to indicate that the Republic of Vermont ever went by that name. Vermont (talk) 04:42, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all Having lived all over Connecticut and Massachusetts for the last 31 years, I've never heard them called as such. — groll tech  ( talk ) 16:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all - I'm wondering if these might be made by a non-native English speaker by accident. At any rate, these absolutely should be gotten rid of. I'm expecting a WP:SNOW situation. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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IPhone 9 Plus
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


 * IPhone 9 Plus → IPhone SE (2nd generation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IPhone_9_Plus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete The rumored budget 5.5-inch iPhone never materialized. Our article on the iPhone SE 2 does not contain any information about that rumored device, nor should it. feminist Wear a mask to protect everyone 03:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete While some rumors indicate that it might be released, we shouldn't report it because its still unannounced, as per WP:CRYSTALBALL. ITSQUIETUPTOWN   talk • contribs 04:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: It should still be kept because even though it never materialized, it is still useful. Many things that never materialized are still being kept as redirects, for anybody who wants to know what happened to them. -◊ <b style="color:#095">PRAHLAD</b> <sup style="color:#707">Balaji 16:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Prahlad balaji, See WP:CRYSTALBALL: Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. ITSQUIETUPTOWN   talk • contribs 04:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. This redirect can be recreated once this is announced. There has been plenty of precedence over the years here at RFD where a redirect for unannounced model of iPhone will have consensus to delete, considering readers will find no information about the redirect at its target. Steel1943  (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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