Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15

August 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 15, 2020.

Streets of Houston
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Houston. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm Bacon 14:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Streets of Houston → George R. Brown Convention Center (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Streets_of_Houston&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not clear what the purpose of this redirect is. The article mentions the Grand Prix of Houston, which could plausibly be nicknamed "Streets of Houston", but if so then Grand Prix of Houston is a better target (and doesn't mention it as a nickname). Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 18:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Streets of Houston is the name of the circuit not the name of the event. The article Grand Prix of Houston is about the event. Streets of Houston should adress its location. --Mark McWire (talk) 21:56, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Houston (or any other similar target anyone can find), similar to, , streets of St. Louis, , etc. Based on usage in reliable sources , the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT of the phrase "streets of Houston" is streets in general, not the race course specifically. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd support this suggestion, and we can add a hatnote pointing to Grand Prix of Houston as well. signed,Rosguill talk 18:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Houston per IP with a hatnote pointing to the Grand Prix article. CycloneYoris talk! 08:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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Reasonable Woman
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 22%23Reasonable Woman

Loony Toons
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  per SNOW. (non-admin closure)  — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Loony Toons → Looney Tunes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loony_Toons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect. Seventyfiveyears at 12:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, this thing has been helpful to many people since February 2005, and doesn't seem to be in the way of anything. Also "Looney" and "Loony" are pretty much pronounced the same, so it's a plausible alternative spelling. Regards, SONIC  678  13:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * But what about Toons? --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s a phonetically plausible misspelling, it’s literally also a shortened form of "Cartoons". CycloneYoris talk! 17:35, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Reasonable error, not harmful in any way. Hog Farm Bacon 16:15, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * keep plausible misspellings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:47, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per everyone above. Clearly not implausible. CycloneYoris talk! 05:03, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The only plausible misspelling of the article title is Loony Tunes. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This is not true. Toons is common shortening of "Cartoons".  There are several examples on the dab page. -2pou (talk) 22:11, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible misspelling. In fact, I think this is how I remember the name. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 18:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and tag as R from misspelling. Successor Tiny Toon Adventures provides additional support for plausible misspelling. —Ost (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep For at least the "Toons" part, I'm in the same boat as, and I never paid enough attention as a kid to realize it was a double entendre. Perhaps because of the reasoning  contributed to some bias in my memory later in life.  As for Loony, that seems like a pretty plausible error as well given that it is the more common general spelling. -2pou (talk) 22:19, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Heroes (TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:04, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Category:Heroes (TV series)">[[Category:Heroes (TV series)]] → Category:Heroes (American TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Heroes_(TV_series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Category:Heroes (TV show)">[[Category:Heroes (TV show)]] → Category:Heroes (American TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Heroes_(TV_show)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure if this is the correct venue to nominate category redirects. There are 3 "Heroes" television series with articles. This redirect should be deleted as it shouldn't point any of them. Gonnym (talk) 10:04, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The redirects are artifacts of the category moves, and are of no value. BD2412  T 21:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We usually delete categories after the page move and this is the correct venue to nominate any redirects. Namespace don't matter. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 09:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per points made above. -2pou (talk) 22:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete both per above. It could also refer to the unrelated South Korean or Chilean TV shows. Regards, SONIC  678  23:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hősök
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:03, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hősök">Hősök → Heroes (American TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H%C5%91s%C3%B6k&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No idea what "Hősök" is as it isn't mentioned in the article. Gonnym (talk) 10:01, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN, this is the Hungarian word for "heroes," and this TV series doesn't have a connection to Hungarian. Regards, SONIC  678  13:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per above, closest target is Hősök tere but it's a partial title match. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:25, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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Heroes(TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:03, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Heroes(TV series)">Heroes(TV series) → Heroes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heroes(TV_series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Heroes(TV Series)">Heroes(TV Series) → Heroes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heroes(TV_Series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Heros(tv show)">Heros(tv show) → Heroes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heros(tv_show)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

typo - no space between title and dab. Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep as a plausible typo. There's no technical reason to be deleting those redirects. Seventyfiveyears at 14:43, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom, the correctly formatted counterparts of the first two already exist, while that for the third one doesn't. Regards, SONIC  678  23:11, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:RDAB. Steel1943  (talk) 02:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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Heroes (TV serial)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Heroes (TV serial)">Heroes (TV serial) → Heroes (American TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heroes_(TV_serial)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The series was never a "TV serial", nor are any other entries at Heroes refereed to as such. Gonnym (talk) 09:53, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Question Why was it never a TV serial? It was literally told in a "sequential episode-by-episode fashion."  Anecdotally, I agree that it wasn't referred to as a serial, but it was definitely serial storytelling.  A lot of TV became more serialized around this time, but you don't hear the term very much.  A 24 (TV serial) wouldn't be too WP:ASTONISHing if it existed. It doesn't look like it's used very much, though, so I'm not going be hard over on arguing WP:RHARMFUL. -2pou (talk) 22:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Each episode continues from the last - there is a "Previously" sequence at the start of each episode (except Chapter One). You need to watch from the start in order to follow the plot, it's not like Wagon Train which may be watched in almost any order. It's a serial, no doubt. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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Khazahstan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Tbh this one seems both plausible and harmless, but I'm not going to belabor the point. signed,Rosguill talk 16:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Khazahstan → Kazakhstan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khazahstan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Double misspelling. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 09:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as an implausible typo. Seventyfiveyears  at 00:45, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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10001
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Midtown Manhattan. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * 10001 → Timeline of the far future (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=10001&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A Google search shows that 10001 is used far more to refer to a ZIP code in Manhattan. It definitely shouldn't redirect to a year-related meaning, and since ZIP codes are generally redlinked, I think deletion is the best approach. <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 04:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Midtown Manhattan where the primary topic is mentioned. There are a few other examples of Manhattan ZIP codes, including 10048 and 10118. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix since the ZIP code is mentioned in that article. -- <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 22:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget over deletion; no preference regarding retarget here vs. retarget elsewhere. This is a decently notable ZIP code, being the first in a 10000-block for a major metro area. (20001 and 90001 are the others; one of the two is blue.) HotdogPi 22:16, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Middle-earth roads
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Geography of Middle-earth. signed,Rosguill talk 16:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Middle-earth roads → Middle-earth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Middle-earth_roads&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no content about roads in Middle-earth at the target article, nor do I believe there is any anywhere on enwiki. Hog Farm Bacon 03:57, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Geography of Middle-earth. Roads are labeled there in a map of the Shire, and that is where any content about roads would go. Goustien (talk) 19:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Geography of Middle-earth per Goustien above. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:33, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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Carchost
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:02, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Carchost → Middle-earth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carchost&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Enwiki has no content on this subject. Hog Farm Bacon 03:55, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Firienfeld
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy retarget  to Rohan (Middle-earth). Withdrawn (non-admin closure) Hog Farm Bacon 22:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Firienfeld → Gondor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firienfeld&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Enwiki has no content about Firienfeld. Hog Farm Bacon 03:50, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, I've added it to Rohan (Middle-earth), existing citation. It could also go in Gondor geographically. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Marmaduke Brandybuck
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm Bacon 22:31, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Marmaduke Brandybuck → Merry Brandybuck (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marmaduke_Brandybuck&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target article. It's an early draft name of the character, but probably out of scope of the article, and it's not likely people are constantly searching for this. Hog Farm Bacon 02:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, on principle, as all similar synonym redirects should be kept please. They are readily cited and where necessary - please don't create a flood of busy-work - can be added to the target articles. I've added and cited this one per WP:BELT-AND-BRACES or something, but the point I'd like to establish is that since redirects are cheap, and this type is verifiably correct even if used only by a small minority, they should not be deleted. Very likely there are other classes of Middle-earth redirect that also deserve to stay. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:09, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Xinxi County
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:01, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Xinxi County → Niigata Prefecture (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xinxi_County&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target is not a county and is not called Xinxi in English nor in Japanese. The ancient Runan Commandery had an administrative division by this name which may be notable per WP:GEOLAND, so delete per WP:R. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:06, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Middle-earth obscurities
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Angamando → Morgoth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Angamando&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Harathor → Húrin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harathor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nelennas → Lothlórien (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nelennas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * River Teiglin → Middle-earth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=River_Teiglin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Teiglin → Middle-earth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Teiglin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Swanfleet river → Middle-earth (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Swanfleet_river&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Enwiki has no content about these subjects. Hog Farm Bacon 01:57, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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