Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 21

February 21
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 21, 2020.

League of Legends characters
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Sona Buvelle → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sona_Buvelle&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Shauna Vayne → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shauna_Vayne&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Akali Tethi → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akali_Tethi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Orianna Reveck → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orianna_Reveck&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Konte Riven → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Konte_Riven&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Konte riven → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Konte_riven&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Fiora Laurent → League of Legends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fiora_Laurent&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of these are mentioned at the target, delete unless an appropriate sourced mention is added to the target signed,Rosguill talk 21:49, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete There are far too many minor League of Legends characters for them all to be listed at the target (and we don't have a List of League of Legends characters either). Some characters get a trivial mention at their voice actors' pages, but none of the ones in this nomination are mentioned anywhere in English Wikipedia. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Since is nominated here, I also added . In order to avoid a trainwreck, for the moment I'm not adding any of the other two hundred unmentioned fictional character/fictional placename redirects also pointing to the same target. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:11, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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The Great Weapon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * The Great Weapon → Death Star (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Great_Weapon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unbelievably vague and no indication that the target is ever referred to as such. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 18:16, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing. A redirect to Diablo (video game) (see this and this) would be too much in-universe preference.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  20:57, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. I see more references to Great sword and similar class weapons in fantasy RPGs, but nothing that refers to "The Great Weapon" as if it were He Who Must Not Be Named. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:27, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Nuclear weapon is likely the primary topic for this primary redirect here, so I'd weak support retargeting there with rcats R from incorrect name, R to related topic, and R without mention, if others want to do that, but otherwise deletion is probably best. Doug Mehus T · C  23:01, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong delete there are many real world weapons so called elliptically, and not just swords. -- 65.94.171.6 (talk) 06:12, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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User:NatGertler/God hates figs
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . By  per U1, G7, and this discussion at RfD. (Closing comment: I was so pleased earlier today when I saw Athaenara had taken back the mop.  for all the thankless and endless mopping that you do.)  (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  01:15, 22 February 2020 (UTC)


 * User:NatGertler/God hates figs → Westboro Baptist Church (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:NatGertler/God_hates_figs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Similar to the other redirects nominated by, which were deleted en masse in a WP:SNOW early closure upon readily apparent consensus, this cross-namespace redirect from User: namespace is an implausible search term and redirect, as demonstrated by its 0 pageviews in the preceding twelve month period, to yesterday, prior to its nomination. We already have God hates figs; there's no need for useless exact duplicates of existing redirects that cross namespaces. There is no history to preserve whatsoever in fact, either, as demonstrated by a bot fixing a double redirect in 2011 following the redirect's creation earlier that same year. Doug Mehus T · C  18:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as housekeeping, leftover from redirect creation. already created the article back then in mainspace in 2011, and that was turned into a redirect by Articles for deletion/God hates figs.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as housekeeping, remnant of a page move, not a merge, so no WP:ATT issues. Hog Farm (talk) 21:48, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and Delete; I was probably so used to clicking the make-a-redirect-when-you-move button that I did so when I shouldn't have, when moving this new article into article space. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for chiming in. Yeah, God hates figs is in article space, so this isn't needed. I've requested speedy deletion per WP:CSD/WP:CSD due to your involvement. Given that some of the content from God hates figs was probably merged into Westboro Baptist Church, we should probably take that as R from merge, so it isn't inadvertently deleted. Doug Mehus T · C  22:56, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Octuptarra droid
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:32, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Octuptarra droid → Droid (Star Wars) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Octuptarra_droid&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Octuptarra Droid → Droid (Star Wars) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Octuptarra_Droid&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This specific fictional element is not mentioned in any Wikipedia article, so these redirects are of no benefit to a potential reader. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 18:05, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only mention of "Octuptarra" in WP is in these two redirects. Narky Blert (talk) 14:35, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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Smirch
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 28%23Smirch

Meteorogical College
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . I'm not acting on the proposed rename of the target article, but no prejudice against someone else doing so. --BDD (talk) 20:29, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Meteorogical College → Meteorological College (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meteorogical_College&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I saw a notification that this page was speedy deleted by. I reverted the deletion because no speedy criterion was specified, and presuming Tom Morris meant this to be WP:R3 deletion, it fails the "recently created" stipulation (has existed for 12 years). That bit of bureaucratic nonsense out of the way, the redirect does not seem useful seeing as it has one hit in the past 30 days, but I'd like to hear from some editors familiar with Japanese as to whether it's a plausible error. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:57, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I deleted it because it was listed at WP:CSD. Good catch on that though, and my mistake for missing that. Support delete. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:02, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete the redirect and rename the target article to Meteorological College (Japan) as woefully vague, ambiguous, and likely to cause confusion. Ideally, no trailing redirect should be left for the correct spelling, but if it is, then it should be as a redirect to the correct name so it can be converted to a disambiguation page which disambiguates similarly named meteorological colleges. Doug Mehus T · C  16:34, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I would support that if there were a competing primary topic for "Meteorological College". I admit I was surprised to find a specific named institution at that title, but that's its name, and we don't disambiguate titles that are not ambiguous with other Wikipedia titles. There's List of meteorology institutions, maybe. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * True, though the list of colleges you identified may provide enough ambiguity to warrant a rename. It's hard to say. Doug Mehus T · C  18:47, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete the redirect and rename the target article to Japan Meteorological Agency Meteorological College or JMA Meteorological College as this is not a national institution but a specific JMA annexes. I proposed that at Requested_moves/Current_discussions Pierre cb (talk) 20:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete the redirect but oppose to the renaming as we usually don’t embed geographic information to the article title unless ambiguous. —- Taku (talk) 20:52, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, we can redirect Meteorological College to List of meteorology institutions and move the current article to Meteorological College at Japan Meteorological Agency. —- Taku (talk) 20:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Atmospheric research
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 29%23Atmospheric research

Video game enthusiast
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus.  --BDD (talk) 20:23, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Video game enthusiast → Gamer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_game_enthusiast&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Video game enthusiasts → Gamer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_game_enthusiasts&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The word "enthusiast" is ambiguous/vague; in these redirects, it doesn't necessarily refer to a gamer, but could also refer to video game collectors. Also, video game collectors don't necessarily play video games themselves. Since these redirects don't exclusively refer to either subject and are not an official title for either subject ("oppose creating a disambiguation page"), they should be deleted to allow Wikipedia's search function to help readers determine what subject they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 17:38, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep I do see the term used in media. Sports fan redirects to Fan (person), and the section pertaining to gaming in the Fan page is just a link to Gamer. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:04, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no specific connection between video games and enthusiasm. A selection of a few out of many possible redlinks which I do not propose creating: baseball enthusiast, cricket enthusiast, music enthusiast, food enthusiast, and wine enthusiast. Narky Blert (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:R, WP:XY, and the above arguments. A disambiguation isn't likely necessary if we don't have any plausible targets at this titling scheme. Doug Mehus T · C  20:16, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't see why having it is worse than not having it. It still serves the function of informing people of related articles. I don't see your reasons given among the "reasons for deleting", and it's both useful and aids searches. ··gracefool &#128172; 00:56, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't aid searches if the redirect is not targeting the article the reader is intending to locate. There still hasn't been any evidence presented that exclusively connects the redirects to the target. Steel1943  (talk) 04:13, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:48, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Www.godlovesfags.com
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:30, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Www.godlovesfags.com → Westboro Baptist Church (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Www.godlovesfags.com&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another WBC redirect, I missed this one yesterday. Not mentioned in the article, most definitely not a slogan of the organization, and 24 pageviews. The big bundled discussion has already been snow closed, so I can't add it there. Historic redirect (from 2004), so I wouldn't consider CSD to be applicable here. Hog Farm (talk) 14:14, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this one. Not mentioned in the target. We probably will have to leave the "www.godhatesamerica.com" one, if it exists as a redirect, as it's prominently named in the target. This, though, due to a lack of a mention and low pageviews, it's a delete. Sorry for requesting early closure per WP:SNOW, though, preventing you from adding this one. ;-) Doug Mehus T · C  14:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This looks like a parody of WBC's notorious "God Hates Fags" slogan and of their website godhatesfags.com. Narky Blert (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, it's an unlikely search item, and really not associated with WBC.  PK  T (alk)  20:16, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Vagina entry
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 28%23Vagina entry

Yup yup yup
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 28%23Yup yup yup

Director of Missions
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:27, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Director of Missions → Southern Baptist Convention (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Director_of_Missions&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Disambiguate or delete per WP:XY. This SBC is not the only organization to have directors of missions. I'm leaning disambiguate, but this role does not seem to be discussed at the various denominational pages, including the target one. Hog Farm (talk) 02:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, if possible, or delete per nom. Doug Mehus T · C  02:50, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned anywhere in WP (including the target article), so nothing to disambiguate. Ambiguous with NASA's job title Director of Mission Operations (see Paul Hill (flight director)). Let the search tool do its work. Narky Blert (talk) 14:43, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:41, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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