Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 3

February 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 3, 2020.

Plague of 1636
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 12%23Plague of 1636

Mineral/References
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and target to the #References anchor specifically. — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Mineral/References → Mineral (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mineral/References&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article is not a list of references, and the history that is present at this redirect does not seem to need to be retained. Steel1943 (talk) 07:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Pictogram voting info.svg Note: The URL formerly linked to by this (http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Products/Pglossary/mineral.html) is long dead, but I found an archive from late 2001: . Glades12 (talk) 10:05, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 23:25, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RHARMFUL, which says: if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here"). And boy is this historical; best to keep it as our heritage.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  03:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per J947. I'm fairly certain that this is the oldest redirect that I've personally seen discussed here. signed,Rosguill talk 21:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Should we target Mineral specifically? I don't know how helpful that would be, but it also seems a safe bet that a user searching for this isn't just looking for "Mineral". I only found two other RfDs for terms with "references" built in: both were deleted, though all the redirects therein were outlandish as search terms. --BDD (talk) 22:28, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine to Mineral per above. feminist (talk) 03:03, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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Jammer Moth
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Jammer Moth → Arctiinae (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jammer_Moth&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, not finding any sources that use this term to refer to a group of insects Plantdrew (talk) 21:56, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nobody uses this term to refer to... anything or anyone, it seems. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:33, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bertholdia trigona, the only known species that can jam echolocation by bats. Narky Blert (talk) 10:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * - No longer the only known species: Hawkmoths produce anti-bat ultrasound. There might be room for an article on the subject of the bat–moth arms race. William Avery (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Or if not an article, a section in animal echolocation. I seem to remember that there's a moth which goes into a sort of spiralling freefall if it detects a bat's sonar aimed at it. Narky Blert (talk) 16:00, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - It might be meant to refer to jamming echolocation, but more than one group of moths is now known to do that, and nobody commonly uses the term with that meaning. William Avery (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete (changing vote) per William Avery. Narky Blert (talk) 15:54, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per William Avery. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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T2T
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * T2T → Middle-earth in video games (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T2T&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Not mentioned in the target. See also below. Narky Blert (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Essentially the same situation as T2t below. Hog Farm (talk) 19:53, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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Troll-Men of Haradwraith
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Harad. signed,Rosguill talk 21:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Troll-Men of Haradwraith → Troll (Middle-earth) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Troll-Men_of_Haradwraith&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neither troll-men nor Haradwraith are mentioned at the target article. Hog Farm (talk) 19:38, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Harad which discusses "half-trolls" and "troll-men". I guess "Haradwraith" is a reasonably likely misprisal of "Haradwaith", given that readers have heard of "ringwraiths". Alternatively we could add a short paragraph to Troll (Middle-earth) on the subject with a mention of Harad. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:47, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * What said, completely I'd just add this is about a fictional group of people in a major fictional series, not some minor fictional character like Harry Goatleaf. --Doug Mehus  T · C  16:36, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Harad as per Chiswick Chap. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:46, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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T2t
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * T2t → The Two Towers (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T2t&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of the acronyms with T2t I can turn up refer to this topic. Hog Farm (talk) 19:22, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, sounds like someone's invention. If OR is possible for a redirect. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:02, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. OR is certainly possible for a redirect. See e.g. Manual of Style/Abbreviations Narky Blert (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Narky Blert (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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Utakala Dibas
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Utakala Dibas → Odisha Day (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utakala_Dibas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Created with a spelling error, and the creator requested a speedy deletion diff. But two editors contested it (one as a plausible misspelling, the other believes the reason was invalid). I also declined the deletion, because if there are two editors disagreeing with a speedy deletion, it is not a obvious one and thus it is not a "speedy". I think we should not have every spelling mistake that happens once in a while, and according to the author it is not a common one. So I nominate to delete it
 * ping involved:
 * Nabla (talk) 18:57, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Neutral. My contention of the deletion was back in November, and I don't care much about this whole ordeal anymore. Glades12 (talk) 19:02, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, even having regard to the variegated transliterations from Indian alphabets. A Google exact-match search turned up this redirect, a userpage in en.wikibedia.ru [sic], and a list entry in mangafeeds.com - Read Manga Online Free; and that was it. Narky Blert (talk) 20:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, I never intended to create this redirect page. When I accidentally created this page I forgot to check the spelling, as my auto-spell was on I clicked the "create" button unknowingly. That redirect page doesn't make any sense and should be deleted. It's not even a common misspelling/alternative name but a completely gibberish clumsy error I've made. – Hemant DabralTalk  22:24, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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Battle of the Peak
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy retarget  to Moria (Middle-earth). Nomination withdrawn in favor of retarget.  No point in deletion since there's been a valid retarget point created now. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm (talk) 19:41, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Battle of the Peak → The Lord of the Rings (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_the_Peak&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No Battle of the Peak is discussed at the target article (or anywhere). Hog Farm (talk) 17:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is, I learn, the name of Gandalf's scrap with the Balrog once they've both died and left the pub I mean the Black Chasm of Moria and climbed the mountain outside. We kind of could mention this at Moria (Middle-earth) but do we want to. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:47, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Rough pub, that. Friendly advice: don't ask for a clean glass, or a pint of throwing bitter. Narky Blert (talk) 08:01, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Expand. The target anchor does not exist, but this battle is IMHO an important event in the Lord of the Rings tale, even if we only learn about its conclusion when Gandalf, now the White, rejoins the party of Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli walking through the Riddermark in search of Merry and Pippin. — Tonymec (talk) 00:23, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. The battle between Gandalf and the Balrog is mentioned, but not as the "Battle of the Peak", and IMHO in too little detail, in the second-last paragaph of The Lord of the Rings and in the second paragraph of The Lord of the Rings. — Tonymec (talk) 00:47, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure there's really scope for an article on the topic, but I have written a sentence or two as the landing-site for a Retargeted redirect to Moria (Middle-earth). Perhaps that's the best answer. I've added a link anchor there "Moria (Middle-earth)#Battle of the Peak". Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:41, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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Mistarille
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Mistarille → Mithril (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mistarille&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target article, and the only reference in the English Wikipedia is The Night Angel Trilogy where it appears in the sentence "The sword is made of mistarille." This redirect is not helpful. Hog Farm (talk) 17:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a plausible search term. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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