Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 3

January 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 3, 2020.

Angiosperma
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 13%23Angiosperma

2021 in heavy metal music
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Consensus that this serves no useful purpose other than to discourage creation, in due course, of the actual article that will exist at that time. ~  mazca  talk 12:54, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * 2021 in heavy metal music → 2020 in heavy metal music (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2021_in_heavy_metal_music&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why this would be a useful redirect. I could see this as an appropriate redirect to 2020s in heavy metal music, but this ain't that. signed,Rosguill talk 23:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion, I don't think redirects should be deleted until we are absolutely sure they are useless. Sometime later this year, the 2021 in heavy metal music will be created with actual use, so deleting it would be kind of pointless. But there is one article that is useless now and should be deleted. New section on next day's log....SirZPthundergod9001 (talk) 11:39, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * One that wishes to make an article can just delete the redirect and add the information. Deleting is unnecessary because it will still be created again by someone.  ~SML  •  TP   —Preceding undated comment added 23:55, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The issue is that in the meantime, readers could be confused by typing in "2021 in heavy metal music" and ending up at an article that is about 2020 in heavy metal music. If they're not reading the title carefully, they may not even realize their error and could end up misinformed. signed,Rosguill talk 00:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. The redirect is misleading because 2021 is not under the scope of the target. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. The others' arguments for deletion are valid per Redirect/Deletion reasons. Glades12 (talk) 10:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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Close Assault Weapon System
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per WP:G7, as the creator of the redirect has voted for deletion in this discussion. signed,Rosguill talk 00:04, 4 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Close Assault Weapon System → Heckler & Koch HK CAWS (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Close_Assault_Weapon_System&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An internal search would suggest that many different weapons developed by different companies have been described as "Close Assault Weapon System". I would suggest deleting per WP:XY, while noting that it's likely that this subject is notable in itself. signed,Rosguill talk 23:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. i believe i was the one who made this redirect but i can see what you mean about it being too ambiguous to point to a speicifc page at this point. Michepman (talk) 23:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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Yellow sae
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per G7 signed,Rosguill talk 00:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Yellow sae → Yellow Sea (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yellow_sae&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I created this redirect over a decade ago, close to when I first started using Wikipedia. It's not eligible for R3, since it's so old (although it would otherwise fit — while as a class, two-letter transpositions like this aren't particularly "implausible" per se, individually they're probably rare, and there are so many as to make filling in the set rather silly). 42 page views since 2016. I'd G7 it if it hadn't stuck around so long. I doubt this needs to be kept. —&#123;&#123;u&#124;Goldenshimmer&#125;&#125; (they/them)｜Talk｜Contributions 23:27, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete author requests deletion. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 06:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I put a G7 template up.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 00:11, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
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Joyce Santana
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Wider North
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  to encourage potential article creation. I will specifically note this in the deletion log just to mitigate any concerns that a previous deletion would be any kind of barrier. ~  mazca  talk 12:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Wider North → Arctic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wider_North&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. An internet search would suggest that "Wider North" term is not synonymous with Arctic, but merely refers to a geopolitical concept associated with the Arctic. I would suggest deletion to encourage article creation, unless a DUE and sourced mention of the term can be added to the current target. signed,Rosguill talk 23:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree on how it should end up....as an article, although it should probably albeit mostly about the 'term. But what is the easiest way to end up[p there. if this gets deleted, could someone just freely create the article without any extra hurdles created by it having been deleted? North8000'' (talk) 16:50, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that the reasoning behind WP:R criterion 10 is that deleting the redirect creates a redlink on article pages that want to link to the concept, which in turn encourages creation because people see the redlink and know that there's an article to be created. signed,Rosguill talk 00:29, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete to encourage article creation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:11, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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Mexicanx
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Transall С.160
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Transall С.160 → Transall C-160 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transall_%D0%A1.160&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The "С" in this redirect is from the Cyrillic Alphabet which makes this redirect implausible. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Doesn't seem to apply for a German/French plane and also uses a period between C and 160 instead of a dash, of which the stylization is mentioned nowhere in the article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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UN/LOCODE:FIOLU
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="UN/LOCODE:FIOLU">UN/LOCODE:FIOLU → Oulu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UN/LOCODE:FIOLU&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This UN/LOCODE does not exist. The correct code for Oulu is FIOUL Kq-hit (talk) 21:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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Popiel І
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Popiel І">Popiel І → Popiel I (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Popiel_%D0%86&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The second "І" in the title of this redirect is from the Cyrillic Alphabet which makes this redirect implausible. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:24, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Pratt & Whitney Canada РТ6А-67R
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  . (Deleted by 78.26.) (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 17:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pratt & Whitney Canada РТ6А-67R">Pratt & Whitney Canada РТ6А-67R → Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pratt_%26_Whitney_Canada_%D0%A0%D0%A26%D0%90-67R&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The fifth "А" in this redirect, the second "Р" and the fourth "Т" is from the Cyrillic alphabet which makes this redirect implausible. A non-Cyrillic version of this redirect exists at Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-67R. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * DeleteTook me a while to get my head round this. Original author must have used or copied from an article with cyrillic letters and I just set up the re-direct without knowing.--Petebutt (talk) 23:01, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete unlikely search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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А1 and А2
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:25, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="А1 and А2">А1 and А2 → Pluto (New Zealand band) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%901_and_%D0%902&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The "А"s from this redirect are from the Cyrillic Alphabet which makes this redirect implausible. It is not a good to create a non-Cyrillic version of this redirect because it was deleted through RfD at Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_2. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:20, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The "and" isn't even part of the album name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:51, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Women's А Basketball League of Serbia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:25, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → First Women's Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The first "А" from this redirect is from the Cyrillic Alphabet which makes this redirect implausible. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:15, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. I don't see any league called Women's A, no mention in the article as a former name. I can't tell if Cyrillic A is typical for Serbian language.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:54, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Either we translate/transliterate the whole title or leave a WP:FORRED if appropriate. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:16, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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MWCA
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FC2103
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus.  Consensus was not reached in the week prior to the relist, and no one participated in the roughly 12 days after it. (non-admin closure) Glades12 (talk) 14:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * FC2103 → Mavic (UAV) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FC2103&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"FC2103" is not mentioned at the target, and searching online I see many unrelated products that appear to use the same code as a designation. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 21:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Metadata box of photos on Commons automatically links to FC2103 for Mavic Air, like for example here: c:File:Kuulukainen.jpg Joneikifi (talk) 01:36, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Obscure metadata links are not a reason to keep a redirect to a target that has no information about the topic. Actually, that same metadata box also links to DJI which is ambiguous (and ought to be DJI (company)). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:49, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are already redirects to DJI at least for FC1102, L1D-20c, FC300X, PHANTOM VISION FC200, FC300C, FC300S, FC300X, FC300XW, FC330, and FC6310. Clearly other people found it useful to have the metadata links point to something meaningful instead of having to do a web search after landing on a missing article. Perhaps it would be more proper to have a way to handle that directly in Commons instead of linking to Wikipedia, but that is above my pay grade. Also, an official reason for not deleting a redirect: "Someone finds them useful." Joneikifi (talk) 23:25, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * But it isn't useful: there's nothing about "FC2103" at the target. I'd agree with you if the metadata links did point to something meaningful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:21, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

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Roman and Byzantine Greece
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Greece in the Roman era. It seems a target has been found that covers both topics, thus satisfying WP:XY. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Roman and Byzantine Greece → Byzantine Greece (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roman_and_Byzantine_Greece&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY, considering that Roman Greece is a redirect to a different target than the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete, seeing as users should be able to find both potential targets by typing either "Roman Greece" (a redirect to the article, which has a better title) or "Byzantine Greece". Nobody's likely to assume that one article covers both, and presumably both articles contain links to each other—or they will shortly.  P Aculeius (talk) 14:17, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Greece in the Roman era (where "Roman Greece" redirects). The scope of the article is defined as "when Ancient Greece was dominated by the Roman Republic (509 – 27 BC), the Roman Empire (27 BC – AD 395), and the Byzantine Empire (AD 395 – 1453)." Keep in mind that the Byzantines thought of themselves as Romans, not "Byzantines"—that term wasn't coined until the 16th century, over a hundred years after the fall of Constantinople. --BDD (talk) 19:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:34, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per BDD, it's a good point that both are in fact covered in that article. ~ mazca  talk 12:47, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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MS Mardi Gras
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Mardi Gras (ship), the target of redirect Mardi-Gras (ship). (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * MS Mardi Gras → Mardi Gras (2020 ship) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MS_Mardi_Gras&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not seeing any indication that MS is used as a designation for this ship. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 22:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Slight usage mostly in non RS foreign language sources. However more usage for the first Mardi Gras which is covered in our article on RMS Empress of Canada (1960). Once the naming of the new Madi Gras is either confirmed at launch or by christening ceremony then we should have a ship index page which this redirect should go to. Ambivalent about where the redirect should go to at present, on one hand anyone typing it into search box is probably looking for the new Mardi Gras, on the other the Empress of Canada is the right article. Suppose the best answer is to create the SI page now and redirect there Lyndaship (talk) 08:36, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think we should have a ship index now. could you oblige by converting Mardi-Gras (ship)? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok its created but under the name Mardi Gras (ship), none of the ships have a hyphen in their names, MS Mardi Gras redirect still needs to be pointed to the SI page Lyndaship (talk) 16:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * , no objection to that suggestion on my part. signed,Rosguill talk 00:05, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to (ship) set index, even if it's not an accurate name. The 1972 one is RMS Mardi Gras, so that's pretty close. I see an MS Mardi Gras in a research book excerpt https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-349-17115-6_5 however, I suspect it is a fictional case study as it is not tied to any real ships with the name, and it isn't the 1972 version because of its destinations in the text not matching the ones in the article. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Mardi Gras (ship), with thanks to . Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127Н
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:24, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127Н">Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127Н → Pratt & Whitney Canada PW100 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pratt_%26_Whitney_Canada_PW127%D0%9D&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The last "Н" in this redirect is from the Cyrillic alphabet which makes this an implausible redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * PW127H What are you talking about??????????? Where the hell did you get that as cyrillic???--Petebutt (talk) 15:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The Н from Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127Н is, which redirects to Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127H with an H  . Thus the first Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127Н (U+041D) is implausible and should not be present.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 17:20, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not least because Cyrillic 'Н' transliterates as Latin 'N'. Narky Blert (talk) 17:40, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No affinity to Cyrillic for a Canadian-built engine. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:05, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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Bоtir Qоraev
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:23, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Bоtir Qоraev">Bоtir Qоraev → Botir Qoraev (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B%D0%BEtir_Q%D0%BEraev&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

User:Pkbwcgs tagged this as being at RfD, but seems not to have added it here. The letters after the B and the Q are O (Cyrillic). 94.21.10.204 (talk) 15:23, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's strange, it was added here. Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:31, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems to have been removed by this edit by User:Ss112. Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:33, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, we must have saved the page at the same time.  Ss  112   15:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You both beat me to it. Meta-edit-conflict! 94.21.10.204 (talk) 15:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete I originally nominated this for deletion but it was removed by accident by another user. Thanks to 94.21.10.204 for adding it back. As per my rationale for previous nomination, the "о" is Cyrillic which make this an implausible redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:39, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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Tiffany (South Korean singer)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 01:55, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Tiffany (Korean entertainer)">Tiffany (Korean entertainer) → Tiffany Young (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiffany_(Korean_entertainer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tiffany (Korean singer)">Tiffany (Korean singer) → Tiffany Young (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiffany_(Korean_singer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tiffany (korean singer)">Tiffany (korean singer) → Tiffany Young (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiffany_(korean_singer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tiffany (South Korean singer)">Tiffany (South Korean singer) → Tiffany Young (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiffany_(South_Korean_singer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article's subject is an American citizen. Just because she is Asian, sang in a K-pop group and is currently based in South Korea (as far as I can tell) doesn't mean she's South Korean! If this is closed as delete, then Tiffany (Korean entertainer), Tiffany (korean singer) and Tiffany (Korean singer) should also be deleted. Vaporgaze (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Strong keep Tiffany (Korean singer) and such as nationality is certainly not the only possibly way to interpret the bare adjective "Korean", particularly in light of the fact that many articles on entertainers are disambiguated by language or ethnicity (e.g. Special:Search/intitle:"Tamil actor"). Weak keep Tiffany (South Korean singer) as a long-standing R from move and R from incorrect disambiguation which continues to get large numbers of page views, and which fails to generate much confusion as the target article explains her nationality in its first sentence. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep. Redirects aren't meant to be accurate per se. They're only just supposed to make sense and be a possible search term. If you are doing a group nomination, then nominate the other redirects to as well as their respected creators (second part optional but polite). We don't delete redirects just because another redirect was deleted. &#8211;  MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 23:30, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The only reason I didn't do a group nom is because I have no idea how to do one, or if it's even possible in Twinkle.--Vaporgaze (talk) 11:23, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 13:40, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 13:44, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The way you do it is by using Twinkle to nominate each one with a placeholder explanation, and then you just manually merge the noms. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 13:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...or you just (gasp) do the entire thing manually without those fancy gadgets. Glades12 (talk) 14:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Fun fact: I uninstalled XFDCloser in order to slow down the time it takes for me to close a discussion as that would force me to have to think more about how I closed it. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:18, 5 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. plausible redirects regardless political correctness. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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Learjet Bombardier
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Order of а modulation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:23, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Order of а modulation">Order of а modulation → Modulation order (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Order_of_%D0%B0_modulation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The first "a" in this redirect is from the Cyrillic Alphabet so this is an implausible redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:15, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Narky Blert (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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First А Women's Basketball League of Montenegro
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per G7 Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="First А Women's Basketball League of Montenegro">First А Women's Basketball League of Montenegro → First A Women's Basketball League of Montenegro (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_%D0%90_Women%27s_Basketball_League_of_Montenegro&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The first "a" is from the Cyrillic alphabet so this is an implausible redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:11, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This was created by me as an automatic part of a page move - the article used a doppelganger character originally and I moved it to use the standard one. There's no need for this redirect or any of the others that will have been created at the same time as I tided up similar oddities. &rsaquo; Mortee  talk 14:15, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete – G6 (uncontroversial housekeeping, as it served its purpose) and G7 seem to apply. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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KIPPERS
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2009-10 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="2009-10 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">2009-10 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → 2009–10 Women's A Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2009-10_Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2010-11 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">2010-11 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → 2010-11 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010-11_Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2011-12 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">2011-12 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → 2011–12 Women's A Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011-12_Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2009–10 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">2009–10 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → 2009–10 Women's A Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2009%E2%80%9310_Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2011–12 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">2011–12 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → 2011–12 Women's A Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011%E2%80%9312_Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2010–11 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia">2010–11 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia → 2010–11 Women's A Basketball League of Serbia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010%E2%80%9311_Women%27s_%D0%90_Basketball_League_of_Serbia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The first "А" from these redirects is from the Cyrillic alphabet so these redirects are implausible. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:37, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have added 2009–10 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia, 2011–12 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia, and 2010–11 Women's А Basketball League of Serbia to this discussion. Steel1943  (talk) 19:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: These can be deleted without cost. Two of the redirects were directly created by me as an automatic part of moving articles with a Cyrillic letter to better places not involving doppelganger characters. However they came about, there's no need for the redirects to hang around. &rsaquo; Mortee  talk 23:54, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete – G6 (uncontroversial housekeeping, as it served its purpose) and G7 seem to apply. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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Mуspace
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:21, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mуspace">Mуspace → Myspace (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M%D1%83space&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The "у" in this redirect is from the Cyrillic Alphabet so this redirect is implausible. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:30, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Narky Blert (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Sсоffin, Williаm (1654/5-1732)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:21, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Sсоffin, Williаm (1654/5-1732)">Sсоffin, Williаm (1654/5-1732) → William Scoffin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S%D1%81%D0%BEffin,_Willi%D0%B0m_(1654/5-1732)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Sсоffin, Williаm (1654/5–1732)">Sсоffin, Williаm (1654/5–1732) → William Scoffin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S%D1%81%D0%BEffin,_Willi%D0%B0m_(1654/5%E2%80%931732)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The "с" in this redirect is from the Cyrillic Alphabet so this is an implausible redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Strong delete per nominator. Also adding (the ndash version with the same Es (Cyrillic) letter). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 14:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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I Dare You to Love
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:20, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I Dare You to Love → Kelly Clarkson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=I_Dare_You_to_Love&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. There is no mention of this title at the target article, and it appears to be entirely speculative based on fan posts on pop music forums.  Ss  112   10:21, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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Pаleszuk
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:41, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pаleszuk">Pаleszuk → Poleshuks (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P%D0%B0leszuk&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The second letter of this redirect is from the Cyrillic alphabet so it is an implausible redirect. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:16, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per nom. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment In such situations you have to make sure that correctly spelled redirect exists. I created it for you. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "" is not mentioned at the target. There's a brief mention on the talk page. It would appear to be WP:FORRED, so there is no need for it. 94.21.10.204 (talk) 02:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rationale has been provided. Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Only a Man's World
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Mаin Page
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mаin Page">Mаin Page → Main Page (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M%D0%B0in_Page&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - The second letter of this redirect is from the Cyrillic alphabet so this term is unlikely to be searched up. This page was created by a vandalism-only account which was blocked indefinitely in 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pkbwcgs (talk • contribs) 10:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete – G3 (creation was vandalism and no revisions are "good") and G6 (uncontroversial maintenance if not vandalism) seem to apply. ComplexRational (talk) 15:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete but make sure to salt it, or someone might try cloning the Main Page again. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 19:39, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * In that case, would it be possible to prevent spoofing with the blacklist instead? There are many other ways to attempt to clone the main page; it would seem regex will catch them all more efficiently than we can identify and salt every possible permutation. ComplexRational (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)


 * delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:26, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * (Speedy) delete per CSD G3, G5, and maybe G6. 14.207.205.207 (talk) 03:49, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
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Kaa (Oriya fim)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 02:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Kaa (Oriya fim)">Kaa (Oriya fim) → Kaa (1965 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kaa_(Oriya_fim)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete unlikely search term (misspelling of "film"). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:11, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Deete per nom, unikey misspeing, no use in searching. Narky Blert (talk) 17:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. (Note: this is the original location of Kaa (1965 film), but it was only at this title for about three days in 2015.) - Eureka Lott 16:35, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:26, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 15:49, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2">Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2 → List of Nintendo Switch games (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Quest_Heroes_1_%26_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Even as a redirect to a list article, this redirect is WP:XY since both of the titles referenced in this redirect have both been released on multiple platforms. Steel1943 (talk) 06:17, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: While the individual games have been released on multiple platforms, this redirect article refers to the game compilation "Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2", which has only been released on Nintendo Switch. Kidburla (talk) 10:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kidburla. The phrase refers to a specific release of the combined titles. (not watching, please )  czar  06:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep the particular title is specially referring to a singular collection only released on the Switch.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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