Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 30

January 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 30, 2020.

Cipolin
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Cipollino marble. There is consensus here to retargeting Cipolin to Cipollino marble would be beneficial to readers/patrons/users. I have added the rcats R from incomplete name R from incorrect name (redundant when used with the incomplete name sub-category rcat) and R for convenience, but feel free to correct or add any additional ones,, , , or nominator. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  12:53, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Cipolin → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cipolin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Doesn't seem to This may be an alternative name for the subject at Cipollino marble. either. The nominated redirect has incoming links, so I would imagine that there is a subject somewhere out there to target this redirect, but in lieu of that, it may need to be deleted per WP:REDLINK. Steel1943 (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...Hmm, this may indeed be an alternative name for the subject at Cipollino marble, but I'm not completely sure; in effect, I've updated my nomination statement. Steel1943  (talk) 23:03, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's the French term for Marmo cipollino. Vexations (talk) 23:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, retarget to Cipollino marble is the right way to go. That article was only created in 2011, and the redirect dates to 2006, so at that time the generic "marble" was the best target. The term is occasionally in use in English sources, e.g. here a few times or here or here, clearly referring to a kind of marble. The fact that cipolin and cipollino are the French and Italian names for the same or very similar things can be seen here or here, or in this recent gem dictionary. Fram (talk) 08:06, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to cipollino marble. The first five Google hits were English dictionary definitions, several of which (e.g this), from Collins Dictionary, equate it with cipollino. Narky Blert (talk) 10:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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Redirects to Marble
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget Nero Marquina to Nero Marquina marble, no consensus for White marble, delete rest   . signed,Rosguill talk 22:26, 7 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Brown Marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brown_Marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Coral Red Marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coral_Red_Marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Emperador Dark Marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emperador_Dark_Marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nero Marquina → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nero_Marquina&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: ' ]  Retarget ✅ by --'Doug Mehus  T · C '' 12:34, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Orange Marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orange_Marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tiger Skin Marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiger_Skin_Marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * White marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: ' ]   Keep ✅ by --Doug Mehus  T · C  12:44, 6 February 2020 (UTC) ❌ overruled, this one gets a no consensus' signed,Rosguill'' talk 23:11, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Wood Vein Marble → Marble (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wood_Vein_Marble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Potential variations of the target page's subject that are not mentioned in the target article. Probably best to delete these, considering that some of these could be search terms for readers trying to find Marble (toy). Steel1943 (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...But retarget Nero Marquina to Nero Marquina marble per below. (I didn't think that a subject for it existed since Nero Marquina was created by the same editor who created most of the other redirects in this nomination.) Steel1943  (talk) 12:46, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment On balance, I tend to concur with that deletion is likely best here. What's our policy guidance on redirects described by various adjectives (i.e., colour combinations)? Seemingly, the potential colour combinations are endless, so where to draw on the line on what's useful. Do we just look at pageviews for each and, if less than 5 pageviews per month, delete? Doug Mehus  T · C  22:30, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Redirects not mentioned in the target are useless. Colour adjectives are fine if they define something specific, but listing every possible colour of a natural substance opens the floodgates (why no redirects from 'red marble', 'pink marble' or 'blue marble', all known colours). Narky Blert (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all except White marble as highly used. The confusion with marble (toy) makes me recommend deletion in most cases but White marble is used enough to be useful. The hatnote can suffice in the latter case.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  01:56, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...The page views for White marble seem to stem from the fact that it has a good number of incoming links in the "(article)" namespace. To me, that hints one of two things: Either the adjective "white" is unnecessary to link and thus erroneously included in these links, or the term "white marble" represents an encyclopedic subject separate and independently notable from Marble which rationalizes it being deleted per WP:REDLINK to allow article creation at that title. Bottom line is if anyone searching that term is expecting to find information about the subject "white marble", the redirect in its current form is unhelpful with helping readers find that information since it doesn't exist at Marble. Steel1943  (talk) 02:54, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget Nero Marquina to Nero Marquina marble. Even if this hadn't existed as an article, I don't understand the need to delete this. It clearly isn't the name of a toy, and if I, as a reader, would read about "nero marquina" without knowing what it is, would get redirected to "marble", then surely I would at least know that it is a type of marble? Having such a redirect is better than not having it. The other ones have marble in the title, so these are rather unnecessary or at worst confusing: but "nero marquina" has no indication what it could be. Fram (talk) 08:13, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...Yes, when I stated "...some of these could be search terms for readers trying to find Marble (toy)...", Nero Marquina was the redirect I nominated which was meant to be excluded from that part of my nomination statement. Steel1943  (talk) 12:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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Elven-king
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Elvenking. Per the unanimous, albeit light, consensus between . Thought light consensus, it's a very plausible alternative spelling and, because the new target is the dab page, the reader/user/patron will not be confused. I'll add R from misspelling; feel free to add any other equally specific rcats post-close. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  14:25, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Elven-king → Thranduil (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elven-king&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yes, this is this fictional character's title. However, this title can refer to multiple fictional characters (the title is not even exclusive to Thranduil in Middle-earth, there are a couple other elves referred to as the "elven-king"). There are also several poems (Erlkönig for one) and a band (Elvenking (band) with either this name or one the translates closely. Proposing retarget to Elvenking, since this redirect could refer to many things besides just Thranduil. Hog Farm (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. "Der Erlkönig" is not only a famous poem by Goethe, but also an extremely famous lied by Schubert; one of his best-known half-dozen at least. It's most often translated as "The Elf King" (actually mistranslated - it's "The Alder King"), but with 200 years of translation, who can tell what variants have been used? There's also the band. This is simply too ambiguous to be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Narky Blert (talk) 22:47, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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Fake minerals
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:35, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Fake minerals → Gemstone (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fake_minerals&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This phrase could also potentially refer to subjects pertaining to Mineral, a higher-level topic for Gemstone. This phrase/redirect, which seems to not have affinity to any specific subject, would be better off deleted due to misleading readers wherever they may go if forwarded to a specific article. Steel1943 (talk) 21:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The best-known fake mineral may be fool's gold; but it's only fake if it's used with intent to deceive. Paste gems are also fakes, in a loose sense of that word. This redirect is just too ambiguous. Narky Blert (talk) 23:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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Shawty Putt
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Shawty Putt → Lil Jon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shawty_Putt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparently an associated act, but no discussion of them at the target article. BDD (talk) 21:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Shawty Putt is apparently the stage name of this artist. Shawty Redd, mentioned in the article, seems to be a different "Shawty" and the cofounder with Lil Jon et al. of the record label. Shawty Putt has decent pageviews (316 from 29 January 2019 through 29 January 2020, the day before nominated it), but, due to the lack of a mention and the fact users/readers/patrons will be confused and may incorrectly think Shawty Redd is Shawty Putt, deletion is best here, I think. This is, of course, without prejudice to recreation should it be mentioned in this article in the future. As well, WP:RFD criterion #10 likely applies (would sure have been nice to have WP:FORRED as a shortcut for this more appropriate policy target!). --Doug Mehus  T · C  13:13, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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Sammy (singer)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Sammy (singer)">Sammy (singer) → Just Dance 4 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sammy_(singer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Single line mention in a list. I would suggest deletion as less than helpful. signed,Rosguill talk 20:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, and the singer herself is not really notable outside of her involvement with the games either. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 20:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It's very unlikely visitors will know our style standards for parenthetical qualifiers. So, I'd go so far as to suggest that these sort of redirects could even be speedily deleted (possibly G6?) as non-controversial housekeeping and cleanup. It's unlikely such a deletion would be challenged. --Doug Mehus T · C  00:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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Sonic Synergy
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Nomination withdrawn by nom. Closing for them. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  22:31, 7 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Sonic Synergy → Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sonic_Synergy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:03, 30 January 2020 (UTC) 22:23, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It was actually the original name of the game []. I’m not sure why it isn’t mentioned though,--69.157.252.96 (talk) 05:27, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak keep per nom's updated rationale, subject to 's edits remaining extant to the article and there not being a more suitable target in future (was ). At Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker, the artist received airplay on the Sonic radio station in Edmonton, Alberta, so the terms "sonic" and "synergy" are mentioned there, but as a complete term, I don't see any mention anywhere. So, delete per (a) lack of mention, (b) potentially ambiguous or unclear term, and (c) not a search engine. --Doug Mehus T · C  13:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I've added the source given by the IP and added the purported working title in the development section. I don't really doubt the source's reliability, but still hedged(pun?) my bets and phrased it deliberately, just that Nintendo Life reported this as a working title. --BDD (talk) 18:43, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm ok with keeping in light of these changes. signed,Rosguill talk 22:23, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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Enterprise networks
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 10%23Enterprise networks

BRD algebra
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * BRD algebra → Clifford algebra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BRD_algebra&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification is provided. signed,Rosguill talk 19:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. BRD algebra is Brouwerian D-algebra; probably named after L. E. J. Brouwer, but not mentioned in either his English or his Dutch WP biographies.
 * (Clearly nothing to do with assessing the risk that you might be about to overstep WP:3RR.) Narky Blert (talk) 22:35, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per above...interestingly, I thought the same thing as 's small text comments, but just in different verbiage. I was thinking more along the lines of WP:BRD, but Narky has articulated well what I was thinking. --Doug Mehus T · C  13:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time)">IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) → W*ING World Tag Team Championship (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IWA_World_Tag_Team_Championship_(1_time)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Improbable search term, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 19:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom but because of the presence of the parenthetical qualifier, which makes it grossly improbable as a search term. Otherwise, I think it's potentially an alternative name redirect without a mention. --Doug Mehus T · C  13:25, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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Marillyn Lockheed
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy retarget  to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump. I'm going to one up Doug's suggestion and do this in one step. As far as process is concerned, if anyone disagrees with this change we can start a new discussion either here or on the talk page as if I had just boldly redirected rather than bringing this to RfD. signed,Rosguill talk 21:47, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Marillyn Lockheed → Marillyn Hewson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marillyn_Lockheed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term as a portmanteau of the target's first name and the company she works for. I would lean toward deletion, noting that this redirect has received very little use since its creation. signed,Rosguill talk 18:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump with rcats R to list entry and R to section (could also, potentially, add R from meme as it went viral on Twitter at the time, R from portmanteau, and R from misspelling) where it is mentioned (no prejudice if wants to, per WP:IAR, boldly and speedily retarget; technically, they could do this in a two-step "speedy keep" and then boldly retargeting, so this just saves a step). I had to chuckle when I first saw this redirect because I knew immediately it was likely Marillyn Hewson, who is also my personal favourite female CEO as I greatly admire her business acumen and leadership. Upon Googling, I was surprised there were 5,500+ non-duplicated results, some of them quoted by Donald Trump, which reminded me of List of nicknames used by Donald Trump someone mentioned when discussing the redirect for Creepy porn lawyer that had been targeted to Michael Avenatti. I'm not normally a fan of retargeting redirects to lists, as I expressed when  suggested retargeting non-notable brokerage channel Canadian banks General Bank of Canada and DirectCash Bank to List of banks and credit unions in Canada because that list is mostly blue and redlinks. In this case, though, this is just a list of nicknames, with citations, that President Trump uses to describe certain individuals on Twitter. So, I'm fine with a retarget, and it gets users to information on the context in which the term was used. --Doug Mehus  T · C  21:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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Light-foot
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lightfoot. --BDD (talk) 14:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Light-foot → Nanosecond (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Light-foot&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not explained on the target article. I suggest retargeting to list of unusual units of measurement. Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 17:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget, but to List of unusual units of measurement instead. This is more directly applicable. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 17:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to DAB page Lightfoot as R from ambiguous term. That page already includes Light-Foot, an album. I have added the unit of distance to that DAB page, with a link to List of unusual units of measurement, where it is mentioned.
 * Regardless of the outcome, the link to light-foot in List of unusual units of measurement should be removed. Narky Blert (talk) 18:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per, though I'd favour targeting to Light-Foot with R from other capitalization. Concur with Narky's latter point regarding the reference to the "light-foot" at the list. --Doug Mehus T · C  21:45, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * But see WP:DIFFCAPS. Also, WP:PTOPICs inevitably collect bad links which are rarely found and fixed. IMO, it's much better to point readers to a DAB page if there's any possible ambiguity; because links to DAB pages do get found and fixed (current number 7,618, down from 81,205 four years ago). Narky Blert (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lightfoot per Narky. Hog Farm (talk) 22:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lightfoot per Narky. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lightfoot per Narky.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  01:33, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * for, is it possible to add a reference at the dab page to List of unusual units of measurement identified as a possible target by ? If so, we could have unanimous consensus here on retargeting to the dab page and, potentially, early WP:SNOW closure. Doug Mehus T · C  00:32, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * (1) It does now, see the edit history of Lightfoot for background. (2) There is no unanimity here yet. Narky Blert (talk) 10:56, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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Appllodorus
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Nomination withdrawn by . Closing for them. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  17:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Appllodorus → Apollodorus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Appllodorus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo, 63 views in 2019. Delete. Narky Blert (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep; useful as shown by the view count and the closeness of 'o' and 'p' on the standard QWERTY keyboard. No argument that follows WP:RFD has been given.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  19:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least for now, per . It's definitely a plausible typo. I hate keeping redirects strictly on that basis, but this qualifies. Add one or more rcats for misspellings and/or typographical errors. --Doug Mehus T · C  16:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per J947. Redirects like this are cheap 'n' harmless. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 10:08, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nom, this discussion is only going one way. Narky Blert (talk) 17:48, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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River Running
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 6%23River Running

Mexican Federalist War
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 10%23Mexican Federalist War

Former island
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 * The result of the discussion was restore article  . Consensus really did coalesce around restoring to the previous diff identified by, which I will do post-close. Feel free to re-categorize, update, and improve the restored article post-close. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  13:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Former island → Island (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Former_island&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The word "former" is nowhere in the target article, leaving the reader unable to locate the information they are looking for if they are searching this term. Steel1943 (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There are several options emerging, but no clear consensus yet on whether this redirect should be deleted as unmentioned in the target article and potentially ambiguous, retargeted to Phantom island as proposed by, or converted back to an article using a previous diff as proposed by.
 * Weak retarget to Phantom island, with an anchor at the last paragraph of § Origins where the idea of a real island that was subsequently submerged or destroyed is mentioned. If this or no other target is suitable, then delete. ComplexRational (talk) 20:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Revert to non-redirect version of 20:06 10 August 2016. In 2016 there was a short-lived attempt to make this a real article about what a former island really is - an island that used to exist, such as those listed in Category:Former islands.  Recommend reverting to the version of 20:06, 10 August 2016 as edited by  then expanding it to be more than a glorified dictionary definition.  See also Wikidata.  Internet searches of the term "Former island" bear out this definition.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  20:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Restore per Davidwr. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 14:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ...That's not a speedy keep... Steel1943  (talk) 18:17, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doug Mehus T · C  15:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore article Based on the full category, it seems we could support one, and it's a very interesting topic. --BDD (talk) 16:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore article. There's a whole pile of stuff in Category:Former islands, and no main article. There's also commons:Category:Former islands. The article could link to, either in main text or as see-alsos, Ghost Island (disambiguation), list of lost lands, phantom island, and probably others. Narky Blert (talk) 18:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore per others. More than a DICDEF could emerge from this.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  04:19, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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Phenatine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Phenatine → Stimulant (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phenatine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: There could plausibly be an article on the subject of an individual drug, but this article contains no information whatsoever on phenatine. It's better to leave a red link than a misleading redirect. Hairy Dude (talk) 14:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. For one thing, it isn't a stimulant, it's a histamine antagonist: see datasheet by NCBI.
 * wikidata:phenatine exists, with no links out.
 * Phenatine is mentioned in Methamphetamine together its snigger-inducing synonym Perviton; but only to avoid confusion with the equally snigger-inducing name Pervitin (which is a brand name for methamphetamine, and is a stimulant). Narky Blert (talk) 19:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per above but also because it's an ambiguous term for the generic drug, thus retargeting to a mention of a specific branded version of it is inappropriate. --Doug Mehus T · C  14:21, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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JGN strauss
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 * The result of the discussion was keep JGN strauss and delete the rest  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:20, 7 February 2020 (UTC)


 * JGN strauss → Jacobus Gideon Nel Strauss (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=JGN_strauss&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jgn strauss → Jacobus Gideon Nel Strauss (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jgn_strauss&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jgnstrauss → Jacobus Gideon Nel Strauss (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jgnstrauss&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

JGN Strauss and J.G.N. Strauss already exist, making these improperly capitalized redirects unnecessary. Not a very active user (talk) 14:19, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. They're harmless and redirects are cheap. Hairy Dude (talk) 14:33, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete – These are typographical errors with no incoming links . Deleting them will result in nobody missing them. That they are "cheap" is a reason to delete, not to keep. <span style="font-family:Futura,serif;"><u style="color:#003FFF;">Senator2029  <u style="color:#003FFF;">“Talk”   12:26, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep the first as a likely typo, delete the others as unlikely. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep the first; Delete the others per 's rationale. Doug Mehus T · C  15:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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Albert Dock
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy move by   . WP:SNOW applies to this move. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus  T · C  21:49, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Albert Dock → Albert Dock (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albert_Dock&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

If there is no primary topic, then the disambiguation page should be at the base name. Leschnei (talk) 12:42, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, but this is more of a rename for the existing disambig than an RfD. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. This is a WP:MALPLACED error, and would be better listed there. Narky Blert (talk) 13:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Support for the reasons above. Dormskirk (talk) 15:45, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete to correctly title the disambiguation page per this guideline. I have tagged the redirect. Glades12 (talk) 16:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There is no need for a speedy. All that is needed is a WP:ROBIN move. I would have done it myself if this discussion had not been open. Narky Blert (talk) 19:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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Launch mount landing pad
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Launch mount landing pad → Starship development history (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Launch_mount_landing_pad&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not explained on the target article. Instead of deleting the redirect, I am suggesting to retarget this to SpaceX Starship. Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 12:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I get 's wanting to retarget, but I don't think that we can retarget this to an article on SpaceX considering there are multiple companies, including Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin that would have similar "launch mounts" or landing pads. Although not mentioned in the target (or either target, really), and it is showing some very modest usage despite it being a less plausible search term, it's thus ambiguous and there's no primary topic. So, I recommend deletion per WP:RFD criterion #10, to encourage article, or dab page, creation. --Doug Mehus T · C  14:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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F11952
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Withdrawing as nom. (non-admin closure) SSSB (talk) 10:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC)


 * F11952 → 1952 Formula One season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F11952&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

F1 1952 would be an acceptable redirect (and it is a redirect) but this just is a silly typo. SSSB (talk) 11:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's harmless and redirects are cheap. Hairy Dude (talk) 14:33, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This one I can see the logic behind, so, in part, per even though I prefer not to use WP:RCHEAP as a keep rationale. It's an abbreviation or code, formulated in a logical manner, that abbreviates Formula One/Formula 1 as "F1" and combines it with the year of the F1 race (1952). Thus, I think either, or both, the rcats R from systematic abbreviation and/or R from code would be helpful here. --Doug Mehus  T · C  15:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Evidently used, but could be confused with later versions of this Ford (example). However, our search engine doesn't help for access of the Ford so I'll say keep it as it is.  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at  05:08, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdrawal by nom per WP:SNOW. No need to get an admin to do this. SSSB (talk) 10:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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Naeem Ul Hassan
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 9%23Naeem Ul Hassan

Foundation for Historical Outlook
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:07, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Foundation for Historical Outlook → Natalya Narochnitskaya (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foundation_for_Historical_Outlook&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Unclear why this redirects there &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Foundation for Historical Outlook is ru:Фонд исторической перспективы (a sizeable article). According to Russian WP, Natalya Narochnitskaya was its founder. It is unclear whether she is still associated with it. Delete to encourage article creation. Narky Blert (talk) 11:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. Too generic of a foundation; this could potentially be a dab page when two or more than two subject articles emerge. --Doug Mehus T · C  15:29, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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University of International Business
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to University of International Business and Economics. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 10:18, 6 February 2020 (UTC)


 * University of International Business → University of International Business and Economics (Beijing) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_International_Business&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The University of International Business is this organization. It is not the University of International Business and Economics (Beijing). &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:39, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete but not per 's rationale, per se. There's got to be more than one "University of International Business" besides the website for the one Headbomb identified; delete, as ambiguous; or, failing that,
 * Retarget to the dab page per --Doug Mehus  T · C  15:28, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep as R from short name; at least until there's an article in English WP about kk:Халықаралық бизнес университеті (called in English "University of International Business" in that article) in Kazakhstan, the only institution I could find with a similar name. Narky Blert (talk) 19:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget (rapidly changing mind) to DAB page University of International Business and Economics as R from ambiguous name. Narky Blert (talk) 19:24, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with a retarget to the dab page. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:35, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to disambiguation page University of International Business and Economics. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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