Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 1

July 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 1, 2020.

Kill Them All
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Kill 'Em All (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) feminist; you can't silence us 03:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Kill Them All → Music of Game of Thrones (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kill_Them_All&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no mention of "Kill Them All" at the target. Investigation shows that the content was moved to Game of Thrones: Season 1 (soundtrack) in 2016, although all that is there is a single line in a very large list (the anchor there is "Kill Them All (Game of Thrones)") and I'm not certain that is the primary topic (see also below). Kill 'Em All (disambiguation) exists and so it might make sense to expand that and target this there. Or it might not - I'm bringing this here for discussion without a preferred course of action in mind. Thryduulf (talk) 20:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting this per Rosguill's comment.
 * Disambiguate This is definitely a vague redirect that could refer to very many things. --Micky (talk) 02:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per User:Micericky. {&#123;3125A &#124; talk &#125;} 15:20, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above. This a much too vague search term and as such can relate to a multitude other topics such the Kill 'Em All (film). Captain Galaxy (talk) 12:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I change my vote to retarget to Kill 'Em All (disambiguation) as I didn't make my original vote clear. Captain Galaxy (talk) 22:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Several editors have voted for "disambiguate", but it's not clear if that means to redirect to the related, existing dab page Kill 'Em All (disambiguation), or to draft a new one. If the latter, it's not clear what would be included in it. signed,Rosguill talk 21:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Kill 'Em All (disambiguation), and add entries there if appropriate. It's a small DAB page, and one DAB page is easier to navigate than two. For a precedent, see DAB page Kill Them with Kindness; and for a less exact one, Rock and roll (disambiguation).
 * (I think it's also a line in some versions of "Pirate Jenny".) Narky Blert (talk) 13:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Kill 'Em All (disambiguation) and add any other entries. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Five-Day Revolution
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  without prejudice against future recreation if either prospective target article begins discussing this term. Deryck C. 02:12, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Five-Day Revolution → 2014 Ukrainian revolution (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Five-Day_Revolution&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While this event did indeed last five days, I can't find any evidence that it's commonly referred to this way. Searching online, the Five Days of Milan seems to be the most prominent event referred to by this name, whereas Google Scholar's top result is about the Tulip Revolution, although it's not clear to me which phase of the Tulip Revolution this paper considers to be the "five days". I searched the Ukrainian- and Russian-language versions of the 2014 Ukrainian Revolution article and didn't see any sign that they referred to it as the 5 day revolution (and in fact, the Ukrainian article lists it as only being 3-days long).

Given the above, I think that deletion may be the most appropriate, although retargeting to Five Days of Milan also seems like a workable solution. signed,Rosguill talk 19:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 23:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'm relisting this for a second time since there's no clear consensus and the advice of a sockpuppet doesn't really count.
 * Disambiguate Including all 3 options, possibly more if they exist. --Micky (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE {&#123;3125A &#124; talk &#125;} 18:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate I think the sockpuppet did bring up a good point. There are likely more than 1 revolution that lasted 5 days. Captain Galaxy (talk) 22:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Given that the phrase is unused on Wikipedia, it feels too much like WP:OR to disambiguate or retarget based on events that could be called revolutions and lasted five days. --BDD (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per BDD. I wouldn't mind recreation to a target that has a reliable source for a certain revolution being called "Five-Day Revolution", but I do agree that Milan is the closest match. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:10, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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Health care desert
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Medical desert. (non-admin closure) feminist; you can't silence us 03:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Health care desert → Medical deserts in the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Health_care_desert&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete to encourage article creation, we shouldn't be redirecting from a general term to an article about the phenomenon in the US. signed,Rosguill talk 17:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Does anyone except Americans use either term? If they're strictly American, we can conclude that "health care deserts" and "medical deserts" don't exist in other countries, and if that's the case, this would be a good redirect.  Conversely, if the terms are used in other countries, I'd agree with you.  Nyttend backup (talk) 17:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Move Medical deserts in the United States to Medical desert and tag the article with  per WP:INUSA. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:49, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Concur with Tavix. As a Canadian, I have never heard of medical deserts, and would guess this is an American term. --Micky (talk) 21:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Medical desert is a term used in Europe, as well. https://europeansting.com/2020/01/16/medical-deserts-in-the-european-union-the-practicalities-of-universal-health-coverage/Marcywinograd (talk) 21:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Tavix's suggestion seems like a workable solution, although I anticipate that we'll probably want to spin off the US into a separate article down the road. signed,Rosguill talk 19:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Tavix's proposal - improves the navigation issue and gives editors an easy opportunity to add content about other countries. Spicy (talk) 20:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Medical deserts in the United States has a lot of U.S.-centric content for a standalone article though, so I don't think a move would work. Creating medical desert while using non-U.S. centric content from Medical deserts in the United States is a better solution imo. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 07:35, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * I've gone ahead and started a stub at Medical desert, which can be fleshed out with content from the US-specific article as needed. Do so with caution, literally the first sentence of the article had an extremely strongly worded claim that failed verification in the provided source. I think the article needs a closer inspection. signed,Rosguill talk 05:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Medical desert where Rosguill has started an article. Thryduulf (talk) 13:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Medical desert per above. It's a term that could apply to many countries (especially those with remote populations), but which is generally used to refer to the US. This avoids the issue of having an article which almost entirely discusses its application within the US, with an aspiration that it be globalized, but which never occurs. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  15:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Having looked through Scholar results, I'm actually not sure  that this term is primarily associated with the US; there's a lot of articles about France,  African countries, and historical periods in the first few pages of results in addition to the US-results.signed,Rosguill talk 17:08, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
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Focus FM (Ghana)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Kwame Nkrumah University of Science and Technology. Now mentioned at the target; will be refining the redirect to the section where this is mentioned. (non-admin closure) pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 06:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Focus FM (Ghana)">Focus FM (Ghana) → Kwame Nkrumah University of Science and Technology (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Focus_FM_(Ghana)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:47, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Note This was the outcome of an AFD just last month. The station's operations are on the university campus and the university is a partial stakeholder. Raymie (t • c) 23:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep: It could've been relisted in the first place instead of concluding to delete it since the first nominator and I were the only ones who voted. I voted for a redirect in the AfD. Anyway, my search indicates that Focus FM is a campus radio station of KNUST. Hence, the redirect. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 08:05, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * My concern is that if it isn't mentioned at the target, someone searching for this term is not going to find anything useful. It's not clear to me whether mentioning Focus FM is due for the target article. signed,Rosguill talk 22:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Anyone can create a segment about the station in the target article. A segment in a magazine talks about the station. Kojo Akoto Boateng, NY DJ and Lexis Bill are among the personalities who had their stints at the station. This article even mentions some of the station's programs. Therefore, the redirect deserves to be kept, IMO. I have explained more than enough. And I won't reply from hereon. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete. Not mentioned in the target, therefore a reader will find no useful information there. No prejudice against keeping if someone actually gets round to adding a sourced mention to the target. Narky Blert (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B. Since this is a mathematical symbol and not an emoji, I find the arguments for retargeting stronger. <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 18:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="⧖">⧖ → Hourglass (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%A7%96&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="⧗">⧗ → Hourglass (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%A7%97&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Similarly to ⋈, this is not a pictogram (see ⌛) but a mathematical character whose use is not explained in the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:44, 24 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep these characters are U+29D6 WHITE HOURGLASS and U+29D7 BLACK HOURGLASS. The nominator may be getting confused with similar looking symbols? If so then add a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Um, no. These characters are in the block Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B and refer to mathematical relations. The white one also has the informal alias "vertical bowtie", which refers to the "bowtie" relation symbol ⋈. Redirecting this to "hourglass" would be like redirecting "∇" to Nabla (instrument). 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:55, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The names I quote are what the unicode symbols are defined as and so where they should redirect. What unicode block they are in isn't really relevant, hatnotes are a thing. Thryduulf (talk) 19:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe also check out other Unicode properties? They have the general category "Symbol, Math", which is quite a good tip that this is not used as a picture of a hourglass in the intended context. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Any comments concerning my argument? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:44, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B, which offers the reader more information than the current target: it tells them the name of the character (if they mouse-over it in the table), and it also tells them that it's a mathematical symbol. As far as I know, mobile phone keyboards don't produce these symbol as an "emoji" if you type in "hourglass", so the most likely use-case is someone copy-pasting it from a source. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 22:44, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Thryduulf. Captain Galaxy (talk) 22:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That does not make sense. This is a mathematical symbol with no emoji properties defined in the Unicode Standard (for that, there specifically is ⌛), and there is no way somebody would search this up not looking for the mathematical meaning (especially as an actual emoji for the object does exist). Also see my argument above, which nobody has disputed yet. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B, odds are anyone coming across this symbol and searching with it is looking for its use as a math symbol and will not be interested in its visual similarity to hourglasses. signed,Rosguill talk 20:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B. Since this is a mathematical symbol and not an emoji, I find the arguments for retargeting stronger. <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 18:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="⧓">⧓ → Bow tie (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%A7%93&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Similarly to ⋈, this is not a pictogram but a mathematical character whose use is not explained in the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:43, 24 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep this is U+29D3 BLACK BOWTIE (⋈ is U+22C8 BOWTIE). If there is a similar looking mathematical symbol a hatnote can be added to the target. Thryduulf (talk) 19:34, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The mathematical symbol is not "similar looking"; this is a mathematical symbol and is therefore part of the Unicode block Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B. There is no reason to have this as a redirect to the object this is named after: the ring operator "∘" has nothing, except the visual similarity, to do with a ring. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B, which offers the reader more information than the current target: it tells them the name of the character (if they mouse-over it in the table), and it also tells them that it's a mathematical symbol. As far as I know, mobile phone keyboards don't produce this symbol as an "emoji" if you type in "bowtie", so the most likely use-case is someone copy-pasting it from a source. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 22:44, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Thryduulf. Captain Galaxy (talk) 22:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The symbol has no emoji properties in the Unicode Standard and is of the "Symbol, Math" general category. Someone searching for this is ways more likely to look for the mathematical meaning, and using this as a pictograph is even incorrect in the way that it is absolutely not the usage intended by Unicode. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:52, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols-B per IP and 1234qwer. The nature of this symbol as an obscure unicode character means that anyone pasting it into the search bar is likely to have come across it in a math-related context. signed,Rosguill talk 20:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:UNSOURCED
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist; you can't silence us 03:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * UNSOURCED → Wikipedia:Verifiability (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:UNSOURCED&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading redirect. It gives the impression that 'unsourced' equals 'no inline citations', and disregards general references and external links (which, according to WP:BLPPROD, do count as sources assuming they actually support content in the article). I think this is a big part of the reason so many editors get confused between 'unsourced' and 'no inline citations'. It's extremely common to see an article tagged with unreferenced/BLP unsourced where a tag such as no footnotes/BLP no footnotes would be more appropriate. The other sections of Citing sources describe the types of citation, so I suggest that this is retargeted to Citing sources. Adam9007 (talk) 17:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. The section in question (which of course was worded different back when the redirect was first created in 2008) says All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports[2] the contribution.[3] (emphasis mine). The original wording should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation was clearer in that regard but still, the equation "no inline citations" = "unsourced" is not supported by the policy. The current wording is a result of this RFC from 2012 but as far as I understand it, the RFC did not intend to change the meaning. In fact, multiple editors explicitly commented that the wording does not mean that inline citations are required, just that they can be used to satisfy the requirement to provide a source. This shortcut is mostly used by users reverting unsourced additions, so it makes sense to point users to the section of WP:V that explains why unsourced additions can be removed. Regards  So  Why  18:13, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Then the voice needs changing, because with the way it's worded right now, I'm not surprised that some don't see the difference between 'source/reference' and 'inline citation' (it sounds as though an inline citation is the only way to satisfy the requirement). But that's a subject for another discussion. My point here is that I'm fed up to the back teeth of people getting it wrong (only the other day, an editor who clearly hadn't read the policies got a bit narky with me and insisted that 'source' means 'citation', and wouldn't listen when I corrected them), and I'm jiggered if this redirect isn't part of the reason why this happens. Adam9007 (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per SoWhy - the current target is clearly what the great majority of currently existing links intend to reference. Whether the target should be reworded is out of scope for this page. Thryduulf (talk) 20:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per SoWhy and Thryduulf. Narky Blert (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Citing sources per nom. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 14:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Not broken imo. Actually it will break a lot of links if we don't keep the redirect as it is. Let's just keep it simple please. --pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 01:15, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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A list of local Ugandan television stations.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * A list of local Ugandan television stations. → List of local Ugandan television stations (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A_list_of_local_Ugandan_television_stations.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete both the definite article and the ending stop make this an extremely unlikely search term. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. per nom. While I can see the nonexistent A list of local Ugandan television stations (without the period) as a plausible search term (like with all these other "A list of" redirects on Wikipedia), this...not so much, because of the period at the end, since it's a general topic without need for such stylization. Regards, SONIC  678 . 18:28, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * A delete. Per nom, the indefinite article and full stop make it a quite unlikely search term; the correctly stylized title is (slightly) simpler anyway. ComplexRational (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This redirect was created from a page move. However, the move was done shortly after the article was created, so it is unlikely that anyone would be using this redirect. So delete per above. --pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 10:24, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UNNATURAL. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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Cape Verdean Spanish
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 8%23Cape Verdean Spanish

TCL Communication
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 13%23TCL Communication

Mount Washington (Massachusetts)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 8%23Mount Washington (Massachusetts)

⋿
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 06:40, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="⋿">⋿ → Z notation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%8B%BF&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, but could be retargeted to multiset if corresponding information is added (per Unicode name "Z NOTATION BAG MEMBERSHIP"). 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC) 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or delete. "Z notation" is a specific formal specification language that is known only by specialists of specification language. I am not even convinced that it is commonly used in this area of computer science. So, retargeting to an article of mathematics would be confusing for almost all readers, an would give WP:UNDUE weight to this specific specification language. D.Lazard (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Bags are also quite common in computer science. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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⨾
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . There's no clear consensus for any of the options here. There's a 2/3 majority to keep the redirect as it is though, so I will default to that. (non-admin closure) pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 06:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="⨾">⨾ → Z notation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%A8%BE&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. Should probably point to Composition of relations. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or retarget This is U+2A3E Z NOTATION RELATIONAL COMPOSITION, so either target seems relevant. Thryduulf (talk) 16:40, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep or delete. "Z notation" is a specific formal specification language that is known only by specialists of specification language. I am not even convinced that it is commonly used in this area of computer science. So, retargeting to an article that is not about formal specifications would be confusing for almost all readers, an would give WP:UNDUE weight to this specific specification language. Composition of relations is an article of mathematics, and this symbol is not used in mathematics: Z notation belongs to applied computer science and there is no mathematics there (except, maybe, some mathematical logic for proving that the language is consistent, but I am not sure that this has ever been done).  D.Lazard (talk) 16:39, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This exact symbol is mentioned at the suggested target at Composition of relations. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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Poverty draft
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 * The result of the discussion was   delete. <b style="color:#4169E1;">Ə</b> XPLICIT  00:35, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Poverty draft → Military recruitment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poverty_draft&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete This phrase does not appear in the target article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - seems to be an unofficial and infrequently used term which refers to recruiting poor people for the military - it is not mentioned in target (and shouldn't be) and applies to a specific theoretical phenomenon and is not synonymous with the target. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  13:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. --pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 01:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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ChinA
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 18:19, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * ChinA → China (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ChinA&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently-created CamelCase redirects are not allowed on Wikipedia. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not even CamelCase, just unnecessary capitalization of the A, which is still not very helpful for a redirect. ComplexRational (talk) 12:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * FairlY weaK deletE thiS thinG, which while it got decenT pageviewS both lasT yeaR and thiS yeaR, it kinda looks like searcH baR clutteR, since the correctlY capitalizeD counterparT will appear in the searcH baR in mosT caseS, and I doubT many people would intentionallY capitalizE the A in this contexT. AlsO, maybe there's somethinG elsE they're looking for that might use this particulaR capitalizatioN? RegardS, SONIC  678  16:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason to create this after the UseModWiki era ended, or to retain it.  Nyttend backup (talk) 17:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as helpful and harmless per . there is no rule that post-UseModWiki CamelCase redirects are not allowed. This redirect has decent pageviews and isn't search bar clutter – if I search up Chin, then ChinA does not appear in the drop-down options. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Useless clutter. Thoroughly implausible typing error. This looks like a trademark or the name of a rapper, not a country. Narky Blert (talk) 02:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Narky Blert. As alluded to by Nyttend, this is not a historical CamelCase link like FrancE; Wikipedia's article on China wasn't created until October 2001 (see China), after the February 2001 decision to transition away from CamelCase links). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 05:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per J947. The redirect indeed doesn't appear in the first 500 results of a Wikipedia search of "Chin", and the redirect has some decent pageviews. It does appear like WP:PANDORA (meaning the reader could expect redirects like PhilippineS or CanadA because of this redirect), but it's not as bad as Who is the Philippine president with the longest tenure redirecting to Ferdinand Marcos. I believe keeping this redirect will not set a precedent for PhilippineS, CanadA, and other similar future redirects, as we deal with redirects listed in RfD case-by-case. --pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 10:36, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Incorrect camel case not even from the time that was used in page titles. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:47, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * dElete incorrect camel case. {&#123;3125A &#124; talk &#125;} 18:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
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China (People's Rep.)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . The nomination's argument has been made moot by the arguments of WhisperToMe, Thryduulf, and Nyttend. The nom also failed to provide a good reason to delete this redirect according to the RfD guidelines. I see no reason to prolong this discussion further. (non-admin closure) pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 10:43, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="China (People's Rep.)">China (People's Rep.) → China (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China_(People%27s_Rep.)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Abbreviation of "Republic" in the disambiguator!? Delete per arbitrary WP:PANDORA. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:50, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep (as the person who created it) I reviewed Redirects are costly and I'm not sure how it would relate to this. "People's Republic of China" is a disambiguation compared to "Republic of China" (Taiwan). BTW I received this from https://www.ems.post/en/global-network/ems-operators/ems-china WhisperToMe (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Putting "China" first is a simple way of sorting by "C" instead of "P", especially in print, where it's also reasonable to abbreviate "Republic". Something that makes sense in print is appropriate here, since we don't have a space limit.  Nyttend backup (talk) 17:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a formulation used by the Universal Postal Union, IATA, International University Sports Federation (FISU), International Astronomical Union and others. Thryduulf (talk) 20:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. It's used by third parties and is therefore a plausible search term. Narky Blert (talk) 02:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. Regards So  Why  13:32, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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