Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 14

July 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 14, 2020.

Daniel Dor
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Daniel Dor → Dor Daniel (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Dor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

delete, it redirects to a different person. There is also a Daniel Dor. Shilton (talk) 07:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep He might be called Dor Daniel. 122.61.86.240 (talk) 09:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous in the real world, unless there a verified mention in the article that he's also known as Daniel Dor. Daniel, Dor would be acceptable. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing; most readers will be looking for the Israeli professor. This page is less confusing in that regard. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Shhhnotsoloud and J947. No evidence that the singer is ever called Daniel Dor, and there's at least two other people with that name: an academic linguist and a jazz drummer. Narky Blert (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete it's confusing --Devokewater  @  17:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not an Eastern formatted name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:14, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:SERIAL
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Manual of Style. signed,Rosguill talk 22:28, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * SERIAL → Wikipedia:Notability (serial works) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SERIAL&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

MOS:SERIAL currently points to a section in the MOS regarding serial commas. I think this redirect should also target that section instead of this failed proposal regarding notability. I saw a few uses meaning to target the MOS page instead of this one as well. Izno (talk) 15:20, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. The vast majority (all but approximately 2-3, excluding the target page itself) of the current links expect this to point to the guideline about serial commas, and one of those also uses the WP:EPISODE shortcut which links to the same target (although that is another one I wouldn't expect to go to a failed proposal). Thryduulf (talk) 16:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually it's only advertised as such. WP:EPISODE actually targets Television episodes. (Whether that should go there or MOS:TV might be of some debate but I think that target is reasonable.) --Izno (talk) 16:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is indeed a reasonable target. Thryduulf (talk) 18:06, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 13
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . Malcolmxl5 (talk) 05:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 13 → Template:Stockholm Red Line T13 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Stockholm_Tunnel_Rail_Line_13&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

sock puppet changed name to Tunnel Rail Devokewater (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 10
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . Malcolmxl5 (talk) 05:25, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 10 → Template:Stockholm Blue Line T10 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Stockholm_Tunnel_Rail_Line_10&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

revert sock puppet changing name Devokewater (talk) 13:35, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:T
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 23%23Wikipedia:T

Elddis
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Elddis → Elddis Transport (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elddis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Elddis is a vague word, its highly likely that when people search Elddis they are looking for Elddis Caravans not Elddis Transport. Devokewater (talk) 11:58, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep firstly this is a and secondly we don't appear to have an article about Elddis Caravans or anything else with the name "Elddis". Disambiguation or hatnotes can be used when an aticle is written if they are notable. Thryduulf (talk) 12:05, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment thanks Thryduulf we should probably delete Elddis Transport too, has it's non notable. Regards --Devokewater (talk) 13:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you think an article should be deleted, then nominate it for prod or AFD. If a target article is deleted then redirects to it are speedily deleted (WP:CSD), but while the target article exists this redirect is good. Thryduulf (talk) 13:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ See Articles for deletion/Elddis Transport. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template talk:Stockholm Red Line 14
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 * The result of the discussion was Already deleted  as the result of an RM request signed,Rosguill talk 22:26, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template talk:Stockholm Red Line 14 → Template talk:Stockholm Red Line T14 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Stockholm_Red_Line_14&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

When I reverted a sock puppet renaming it to "Tunnel Rail" I renamed it Template talk:Stockholm Red Line 14 instead of Template talk:Stockholm Red Line T14 Devokewater (talk) 10:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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1928 San Sebastián Grand Prix
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:25, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="1928 San Sebastián Grand Prix">1928 San Sebastián Grand Prix → 1928 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1928_San_Sebasti%C3%A1n_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1929 Mugello Grand Prix → Mugello Circuit (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1929_Mugello_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1929 Dieppe Grand Prix → 1929 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1929_Dieppe_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1930 Picardy Grand Prix → 1930 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1930_Picardy_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1931 Casablanca Grand Prix → 1931 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1931_Casablanca_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1931 Dieppe Grand Prix → 1931 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1931_Dieppe_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1932 Picardy Grand Prix → 1932 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1932_Picardy_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1932 La Baule Grand Prix → 1932 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1932_La_Baule_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1933 Dieppe Grand Prix → 1933 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1933_Dieppe_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1933 Monza Grand Prix → Monza Grand Prix (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1933_Monza_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1933 La Baule Grand Prix → 1933 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1933_La_Baule_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1934 U.M.F. Grand Prix → 1934 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1934_U.M.F._Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 1935 Lorraine Grand Prix → 1935 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1935_Lorraine_Grand_Prix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="1935 Orléans Circuit">1935 Orléans Circuit → 1935 Grand Prix season (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1935_Orl%C3%A9ans_Circuit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delete all. These redirects point to pages with no more than passing mention of them and they discourage article creation. A7V2 (talk) 06:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to promote article creation (WP:RfD) SSSB (talk) 10:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all to encourage article creation. Narky Blert (talk) 14:17, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all to encourage article creation, it's not worth it to surprise readers by directing them to the grands prix rather than giving them info about these racing events. Regards, SONIC  678  22:32, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete them all --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  17:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete them all  I looked at 1929 Dieppe Grand Prix under NPP.  Have not loooked at the others but I assume they are the same. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 02:36, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * All were created by the same user in February this year except for 1929 Mugello Grand Prix which was created by the author (or someone using their name at least) of a website containing race reports of the period with just an external link, which was then nominated for speedy deletion and then redirected just a few hours later, back in September 2015. A7V2 (talk) 08:00, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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Second Babylonian dynasty
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25%23Second Babylonian dynasty

How to pronounce English
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:24, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * How to pronounce English → English phonology (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=How_to_pronounce_English&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. Mentioned at this AFC/R request in spirit of WP:OTHERSTUFF. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep per previous discussion. The policies on WP:NOHOWTO only limit to the articles, not redirects. If you disagree, then conduct a policy change to cover the redirects. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 04:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. As no new rationale has been given since the last deletion discussion, no new justification is needed. — Æµ§œš¹ <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA"> [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 05:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per the previous discussion. To be honest I'm slightly surprised that discussion wasn't closed as keep given the deletion arguments there are weak and pretty much fully refuted. Thryduulf (talk) 09:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as helpful to the readers. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:51, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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Blaine City Center, Washington
<span id="Blaine City Center, Washington"> <span id="Everett City Center, Washington"> <span id="Ferndale City Center, Washington"> <span id="Olympia City Center, Washington"> <span id="Seattle City Center, Washington"> <span id="Tacoma City Center, Washington"> <span id="Vancouver City Center, Washington"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 21%23Blaine City Center, Washington

Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 14
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . Malcolmxl5 (talk) 05:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 14 → Template:Stockholm Red Line 14 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Stockholm_Tunnel_Rail_Line_14&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Socket puppet changed name to Tunnel Rail Devokewater (talk) 00:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I have tagged it for speedy deletion., when a sock puppet of a blocked or banned user creates an article or another Wikipedia page, it can be tagged for speedy deletion as long as no good-faith editors have made significant edits to it. More information about that here. --bonadea contributions talk 11:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks bonadea, I've asked for help in the Teahouse regarding this, can you assist? --Devokewater (talk) 11:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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