Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 16

July 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 16, 2020.

Erik Nyberg
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Eric Nyberg. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Big culprit on the WP:Broken section anchors page. None of these dancers are actually mentioned at the target any longer. Even when they were mentioned (see this last version before removal), the mentions were copyright violations (the entire page history has a big copyright violation history). Click on any of those name links, and it will almost surely take you to a profile with the exact same content verbatim. 2pou (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Erik Nyberg → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erik_Nyberg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Note this was split from the nomination below, I've copied the relevant portion of the nomination rationale. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget. There is a muscian by this name who might be notable and or might be the same person as the dancer (I've not looked in enough detail to be certain either way). If they are notable this would suggest deletion to encourage the creation of an article. However, there is a different person, Eric Nyberg, a professor who definitely is notable and this is a very plausible misspelling of his name, so if the musician and/or dancer are not notable then I would suggest retargetting to the professor's article. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Eric Nyberg. Thank you for such diligence in the cross checking, !  I think red link encouragement of an article creation is less likely in this case with no links out there in the main space as things stand right now. -2pou (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Eric Nyberg as R from misspelling. If any editor thinks that one of the Eriks is notable, they can overwrite this redirect and cross-hatnote the pages. Narky Blert (talk) 07:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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Danish Dance Theatre Dancers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Fabio Liberti → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fabio_Liberti&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Owen Ridley-Demonick → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Owen_Ridley-Demonick&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Björn Nilsson (dancer) → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bj%C3%B6rn_Nilsson_(dancer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Stefanos Bizas → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stefanos_Bizas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tina Møller → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tina_M%C3%B8ller&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Adi Amit → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adi_Amit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nassim Meki → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nassim_Meki&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ana Sendas → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ana_Sendas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Maxim-Jo Beck McGosh → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maxim-Jo_Beck_McGosh&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Minna Berglund → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minna_Berglund&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Stina Mårtensson (dancer) → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stina_M%C3%A5rtensson_(dancer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nelson Rodriquez-Smith → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nelson_Rodriquez-Smith&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Luca Marazia → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luca_Marazia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Owen Ridley Demonick → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Owen_Ridley_Demonick&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tina Moller → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tina_Moller&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tina Moeller → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tina_Moeller&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Stina Maartensson (dancer) → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stina_Maartensson_(dancer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Maxim Jo Beck McGosh → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maxim_Jo_Beck_McGosh&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Stina Martensson (dancer) → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stina_Martensson_(dancer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nelson Rodriquez Smith → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nelson_Rodriquez_Smith&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Milou Nuyens → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Milou_Nuyens&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Alessandro Sousa Pereira → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alessandro_Sousa_Pereira&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bjorn Nilsson → Danish Dance Theatre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bjorn_Nilsson&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Big culprit on the WP:Broken section anchors page. None of these dancers are actually mentioned at the target any longer. Even when they were mentioned (see this last version before removal), the mentions were copyright violations (the entire page history has a big copyright violation history). Click on any of those name links, and it will almost surely take you to a profile with the exact same content verbatim. (I stopped checking after three or four).

I considered sparing the bottom three since they at least had incoming links, but looking closer, they are not worth keeping, either. The last only has incoming links from a rally car driver, so the link is misleading anyway. The other two should become red links to encourage creating an article if they're truly notable.

Regards, 2pou (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC) 2pou (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note I've split Erik Nyberg out into a seprate discussion as there are additional considerations that are worth discussing separately.Thryduulf (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Milou Nuyens is likely notable and has a lot of incomming links, but nothing significnat enough to anchor a redirect. Alessandro Sousa Pereira also has correct incoming links but again there is nothing to anchor a redirect. None of the others have links or mentions anywhere. Thryduulf (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Tralfagar
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 * The result of the discussion was keep -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:27, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Tralfagar → Trafalgar (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tralfagar&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo Joseph2302 (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep; plausible misspelling. This is harmless to keep and harmful to delete. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per J947, plus this might be how some people pronounce the word. Regards, SONIC  678  03:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Redirects like this are cheap and harmless. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:29, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Further, the target is a DAB page, which means that links to it will get found and fixed within a few weeks. Narky Blert (talk) 08:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Liquidation of America
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:30, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Liquidation of America → Dissolution of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liquidation_of_America&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term "Liquidation" is nowhere in the target article, and the phrase could be seen as ambiguous anyways since "Liquidation" could refer to business failure, etc. Steel1943  (talk) 20:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. All the google hits for this phrase are partial title matches for things like "liquidation of America's middle classes", "liquidation of America's 'bloody mess' in Vietnam" or "liquidation of America Movil". Thryduulf (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This expression is ambiguous and the redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:28, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above. the ultraUsurper 16:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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Usa collapse
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:30, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Usa collapse → Dissolution of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usa_collapse&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Collapse ≠ Dissolution. In addition, this redirect is ambiguous as it could refer to economic issues, health issues, etc. Delete to allow search results to be more helpful. Steel1943 (talk) 20:43, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Badly formatted and ambiguous, this redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:29, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Australian Trump
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Australian Trump → Scott Morrison (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Trump&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Internet search results name Clive Palmer and Pauline Hanson as candidate Trumps of Australia, but I didn't come across any sources calling Morrison that. Delete unless stronger evidence can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete; seems to not refer to Morrison per nom. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a common name for Morrison. Hog Farm Bacon 05:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Chinese Trump
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Chinese Trump → Xi Jinping (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinese_Trump&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Trump of China → Xi Jinping (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trump_of_China&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't appear to be a nickname for Xi Jinping, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not a common name for this leader. Hog Farm Bacon 05:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't represent a neutral point of view. CaptainBillyCatPants (talk) 23:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirects are allowed to be non-neutral per WP:RNEUTRAL, the problem here is that this doesn't appear to be a nickname in use by anyone. signed,Rosguill talk 23:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Trump isn't a title. This is a string of questionable redirects created by User:J4lambert which includes:Trump of turkey, Trump of hungary, Trump of Mexico, Mexican Trump, Philippine trump, Trump of Brazil, and Trump of the UK. The following also have deletion discussions: Trump of Malawi, Australian Trump. I will WP:AGF but the proliferation of these redirects is eyebrow raising.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:48, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The ones for Erdogan, Orban, AMLO, Duterte, Bolsonaro and Johnson are slightly more appropriate as the comparisons have been made rather widely. signed,Rosguill talk 02:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
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Untitled Schulman/Joost project
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25%23Untitled Schulman/Joost project

Wikipedia:Ilir Ikonomi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Ilir Ikonomi → Ilir Ikonomi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Ilir_Ikonomi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

We don't need a redirect from project space to article space. Adam9007 (talk) 19:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Improper use of the "Wikipedia:" namespace. Steel1943  (talk) 20:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as not needed cross namespace redirect. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails the guidelines for cross-namespace redirects.  Likely a good-faith error based on a misunderstanding of how namespaces work. Hog Farm Bacon 05:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this (probably erroneous) cross-namespace redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 2
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25%23Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 2

Template:Archive box non-auto
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  as unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:Archive box non-auto → Template:Archives (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Archive_box_non-auto&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Following a merger of Archive box (the original target) and Archives the title makes no sense. Archives (the current target) is automatic by default. One transclusion would have to be updated. --Trialpears (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * TfD link for the curious. --Trialpears (talk) 18:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:R from plausible term
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:R from plausible term → Template:R to anchor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:R_from_plausible_term&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Template:R from plausible term/doc">Template:R from plausible term/doc → Template:R to anchor/doc (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:R_from_plausible_term/doc&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

All redirects should go from plausible terms; otherwise, they probably belong here. This has pretty much nothing to do with anchors. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm undecided at the moment about whether it is worth keeping, but if it is (which explicitly also covers phrases) would make a much better target. Thryduulf (talk) 18:35, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: As of this moment, this redirect has 17 transclusions. Steel1943  (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. As well as R from related term, this might also be intended to mean R from misspelling, R from modification, R from synonym, R from character, or you-name-it. Narky Blert (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ambiguous and rarely used. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Social Security System
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . I'm closing this discussion since the active move discussion occurring at Talk:Social Security System (Philippines) has this title proposed as the primary option for retitling. For this reason, this RFD discussion essentially fragments the discussion regarding the nominated redirect on two pages, potentially making it more confusing to establish consensus at the move discussion. After the move discussion is closed, if this title is still a redirect and there are still concerns with its target, the redirect can be renominated. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 17:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Social Security System → Social security (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Social_Security_System&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Since every first letter of every first word of this redirect is capitalized, I assume the reader expects that they are looking for the specific system, not social security in general. I propose retargeting this redirect to Social Security, which is a dab page containing some specific systems the reader may be looking for. Though the current target contains a hatnote linking to my proposed target, I think we should still reduce the WP:ASTONISH-ness here. pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 12:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment My initial thought here is that the organisation of our articles on this could do with some joined up thinking. There are partial and sometimes overlapping lists of specific systems at Social Security (a section of the article about the concept), Ministry of Social Security (a dab page), Social security (a dab page), Ministry of Welfare (a dab page), Ministry of Social Welfare (a dab page), Department of Social Welfare (a dab page), Welfare (a section of the article about the concept that is poorly differentiated from Social security), and possibly elsewhere. As an exact name of an organisation it appears that Social Security System (Philippines) is the only one, so that needs a hatnote if this targets somewhere other than a list it appears in. It's worth noting that Social security is proposed to be merged into Welfare - see Talk:Welfare (only 3 !votes + nominator so far, but all in favour). Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with Thryduulf. We might best be served by putting this discussion on hold pending the merge discussion at least. My inclination is that an article describing the concept is a better fit for the redirect (i.e., keep). The specific systems listed on the disambiguation page are also listed there. If the point is that only the Filipino system is formally named this way, that's true, but keep in mind that not all ways of navigating Wikipedia are case sensitive. The American and Iranian articles specifically refer to their "social security system". Cf. WP:NCGOV, noting that judging which government body names are unique enough has built-in subjectivity. --BDD (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Paycheck to paycheck
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Kalaalisut
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Kalaallisut. signed,Rosguill talk 20:37, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Kalaalisut → Greenlandic language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalaalisut&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could also mean West Greenlandic. Therefore, disambiguate. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 12:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Sure, no problem. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kalaallisut to be consistent with the article naming scheme. The way I understand this is that Kalaallisut is the Greenlandic name for Greenlandic and Kalaallisut is the usual English name for the standard dialect of Greenlandic. The misspelling shouldn't be a disambiguation page if the correct spelling is not a disambiguation page, especially given the misspelling is largely unambiguous. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 06:11, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kalaallisut as R from typo per J947. WP:RM is the proper venue for discussion about whether Kalaallisut should be a disambiguation page. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Good idea. When this discussion is complete, I shall propose a requested move. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kalaallisut. I'm not sure there's a problem here that needs a disambiguation page: hatnotes should be fine. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:55, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kalaallisut per J947. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:15, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Diminish
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Diminish → Diminished responsibility (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diminish&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is longstanding, but has minimal incoming links. It's unclear to me why it should favor the current target over other articles with diminished or diminishing in their titles. And I came across this when I looked up Diminishment, which is a very specific usage. Disambiguation seems tricky, since we'd really just be listing grammatical variants. I'm not sure what the best course of action is. BDD (talk) 15:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Weak Keep This is a tricky one, disambiguation seems like a safe choice, but to be safe, I say leave it unchanged. This is definitely a topic that could use further discussion. James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 22:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Search is better. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:32, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft retarget to Wiktionary. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 18:13, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete – By pointing nowhere, the reader will be presented with search results. This is the most expeditious means to find an the desired content, not clicking through articles and potentially-incomplete disambiguation pages. Navigating search results is a skill possessed by all users. <span style="font-family:Futura,serif;font-size:88%;border-bottom:2px solid #09DB67;text-decoration:none;">Senator2029 “Talk” 08:29, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete too vague  <b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b>  @  09:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete certainly shouldn't remain on current target. I'm more persuaded by the delete argument, I'm not in favour of a Soft retarget to Wiktionary otherwise we would need to be doing it for a lot of words.Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There isn't any media that goes by this title. Diminished has a bunch of partial title matches though.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Ifeelmyself
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Ifeelmyself → Abbywinters.com (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ifeelmyself&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no logic to this redirect, and nothing links to Ifeelmyself Zim <b style="color:darkgreen">Zala</b> Bim  <sup style="color:black">talk 04:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * IFeelMyself → Abbywinters.com (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IFeelMyself&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delete: There is some perverted logic to this request redirect given target but I'll go with nom. Closer Consider salting.  Don't believe creator has a COI though promotionalism is possible. Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:23, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note I've added IFeelMyself to this nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing linking to a redirect is not a reliable indicator of it being either useful or not useful. However in this case, it is not useful - "Ifeelmyself" is a generic term used in porn with no specific connection to the target website. There is a porn site called ifeelmyself.com but as far as I can tell that has no connection with Abbywinters.com, including having different owners. Given all this I think the chance of the creator having a COI is very small. I also don't see any evidence that salting is needed - this was created in 2016 and the creator hasn't edited since that year. Thryduulf (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom <b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  12:12, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. A Google search indicates that the term is a rather obscure, generic porn site slang keyword for masturbation porn (also tagged "ifm").  (No, I hadn't heard of this before looking).  There is no evidence that the target has a stronger relation to the term than any other porn site. • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete sounds like a G10. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It isn't a G10, the redirect is term used in pornography that targets a pornographic website that is not named after a real person (see Abbywinters.com) so the term is not disparaging. Thryduulf (talk) 18:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Nevermind the G10 then. This depends if the hashtag or catchphrase is unique to that brand. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:07, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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David Jacob Eisenhower
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Dwight D. Eisenhower. signed,Rosguill talk 20:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * David Jacob Eisenhower → Dwight D. Eisenhower (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Jacob_Eisenhower&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete given that this redirect to Dwight Eisenhower's page contains almost no information about David Jacob Eisenhower. At the very least, this should redirect to the earlier section of Dwight D. Eisenhower#Family background, which gives some information about David Jacob, unlike the Early life and education section which mentions him not at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hjwms77 (talk • contribs) 02:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment I've updated the section to #Family background. —ADavidB 06:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as retargetted as there is encyclopaedic information about this person there. Note that this was created as an article and boldly redirected, so should the consensus be against having a redirect it should be reverted and sent to AfD (a previous article about this person was deleted after an expired PROD). Thryduulf (talk) 10:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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