Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 17

July 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 17, 2020.

AZERTW
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * AZERTW → AZERTY (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AZERTW&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is potentially(?) a keyboard layout that isn't mentioned at the target. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't find any evidence in reliable sources that this is a keyboard layout. Google searches finds usernames, complaints about errors in AZERTY software keyboards and years old forum posts about incorrect linux keyboard mappings. I have found a couple of non-English forum posts that mention it as possibly being a thing - one describing it as "German/Scandinavian", one as "Other German" and one that didn't give a description and may have been an error for AZERTY (the context was I think Cyrillic equivalents to Dvorak or Dvorak in Cyrillic environments). So that plus the lack of mention makes this clearly not a useful redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 21:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * AZERTW is an r from incorrect name. Neel.arunabh (talk) 20:01, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, with thanks to for the research. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Suss
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Suss → Singapore University of Social Sciences (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suss&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A reader might also look for Sus law. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep When considering only encyclopaedic targets (i.e. not dictionary entries) the current target is overwhelmingly the primary topic and already links to Suss (disambiguation) where additional uses can be added. Thryduulf (talk) 21:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Thryduulf. – robertsky (talk) 03:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Reluctant keep. I am certain that Singapore University of Social Sciences is WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for "SUSS". I am not at all convinced that it is for "suss". However, that is a WP:RM issue, not one for this forum. Narky Blert (talk) 19:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Hatnote at target amended to note that both "SUSS" and "Suss" redirect there, and disambiguation page cleaned up to reflect a primary topic, and add 's "sus law" use. All of which is without prejudice of an WP:RM of Suss (disambiguation) to Suss, which might actually be better. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:50, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Trump of Malawi
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  as unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:52, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Trump of Malawi → Lazarus Chakwera (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trump_of_Malawi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The most I could find to back up this moniker was a post in the comments section of a news article. Searching for "Trump of Malawi", I mostly get results about a Malawian man who looks a lot like Trump. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 18:55, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Exercise Lionheart
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 * The result of the discussion was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Exercise Lionheart → Lionheart (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Exercise_Lionheart&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term is no longer mentioned in the target dab and has no significant coverage elsewhere in Wikipedia. It usually refers to a 1984 NATO exercise. Certes (talk) 18:45, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I could find no good target. Different thing from Operation Lionheart. Narky Blert (talk) 19:46, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Enwiki has nothing about the subject. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:13, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Traditional scholars
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:49, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Traditional scholars → Islamic schools and branches (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Traditional_scholars&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This search term doesn't necessarily refer to scholars of Islam. Delete due to ambiguity. signed,Rosguill talk 18:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete It's a reasonable search term, but I don't see any good target for it. Any scholars who wrote prior to the modern period (in the history of human thought and the history of science) on any topic in any society could be called "traditional scholars", so it definitely shouldn't be pointing to a single topic area. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)'
 * Delete this, it can refer to traditional scholars of any religion (not just Islam), the history of anywhere, or just about anything, even Wikipedia. Regards, SONIC  678  03:41, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect is ambiguous and may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Rank deficient
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural close  . Both redirects now point to the same target, thanks to . (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:31, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Rank deficient → Rank (linear algebra) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rank_deficient&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Rank deficiency → Rank (linear algebra) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rank_deficiency&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Both redirects should point at the same target, either to section or to the introduction. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:50, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per WP:SNOWBALL. I have edited the two redirects and the target article. Now, both redirects point to the same section, where both terms are defined and bolded. D.Lazard (talk) 20:11, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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List of coastal islands of the Californias
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy restore  . Per WP:BLAR, when there is disagreement on whether or not a page should be redirected, the page should be restored and listed at AfD. A trout is also being handed out to  for not following that procedure along with the personal attack that went along with it. It's probably a blockable offensive, but it's best not to escalate things where possible. Hopefully this matter can be resolved civilly moving forward, and if that's not possible, please just walk away from the situation. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * List of coastal islands of the Californias → List of islands of California (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_coastal_islands_of_the_Californias&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect is misleading because it now goes to a list which is just the US territories rather than the full geographic region of The Californias, as in the title. The page started in 2004 as coastal islands of Alta and Baja California and so that redirect is wrong now too. The page was fine as a list of islands in that region of Mexico/US but someone recently tried to delete it. When the prod was removed, they became abusive and have been edit-warring to force this invalid title change. I reckon that the full list ought to be restored but as it's currently a redirect, I'm starting discussion here at RfD. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:58, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * As a minor note, I think this diff is the one that was meant to be linked in the "abusive" piping above. Primefac (talk) 15:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore article. This version (7 June 2020) looks like a perfectly good list article. It should never have been blanked and redirected without going through WP:AFD. Narky Blert (talk) 16:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore article per Narky Blert. Thryduulf (talk) 18:16, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is not a perfectly good list article, but is unnecessary and WP:REDUNDANT to List of islands of California and List of islands of Mexico. Per WP:DUPLICATE, I may do a WP:BOLD merge – though there's nothing to merge in the first place! We do not need duplicate articles listing places in any arbitrary area when they are already listed in much better articles for specific areas. Reywas92Talk 18:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Fairfield Park
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close - see WP:RM  Thryduulf (talk) 12:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Fairfield Park → Fairfield (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fairfield_Park&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is currently a disambiguation page at Fairfield Park (disambiguation). The DAB page should be Fairfield Park and Fairfield Park (disambiguation) should redirect to it. Leschnei (talk) 11:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * if you think a page should be moved then you want Requested moves. Thryduulf (talk) 12:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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The Bad Guys (upcoming film)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25%23The Bad Guys (upcoming film)

Corporate Nazism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Corporate Nazism → Corporatism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corporate_Nazism&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The only time Nazism is discussed in the article is a mention of a Nazi opponent. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Island of France
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 * The result of the discussion was keep -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Island of France → Île-de-France (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Island_of_France&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could also mean one of the islands of France (e.g. Corsica). Retarget to list of islands of France. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is the translation of "Île-de-France" and I've seen in it offline sources a few times. Someone wanting the list is more likely to use the plural "islands" but I've added a link to there as a see also section. Thryduulf (talk) 12:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The title is ambiguous and should therefore point to the DAB page as, so that links to it can be easily found and corrected. Narky Blert (talk) 16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * In 18th century British sources, the most likely meaning is Isle de France (Mauritius), which was a notorious pirates' nest. Narky Blert (talk) 16:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. I believe the nom's concerns are addressed by the addition of the islands list in a new "see also" section. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Or a hatnote should be added on the list article. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:06, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as long as the term does not refer to anything particular (outside of a literal (bad) translation of 'Île-de-France')... nothing, to my knowledge), and please do consider how often this redirect is hit (page statistics). Cheers. <span style="color:#ddd;font-family:Futura, Sans-Serif;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px #111;">T P  ✎ ✓ 17:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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